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RedPhoenix23

10-28-2005, 01:48 AM

DarkChilde

10-28-2005, 02:45 AM

If you haven't noticed Lex prefers brunettes over blondes. Plus he has always had a crush on Lana.

Jor'el_Ted

10-28-2005, 02:59 AM

I think it's more or less obvious that Lex has as big a crush on Lana as Clark does. I first thought about it when Lex got Jason fired cause HE was jelous. And that part in Onyx where the bad Lex(Alexander) was puttin the moves on Lana just proved that he was in love with her. :)

RedPhoenix23

10-28-2005, 03:12 AM

I guess Lex's feelings are finally pretty clear to everyone now, but what about Lana? TPTB are gonna have to get these 2 on better terms if they want to play the triangle convincingly. It's not a real triangle if Lana harbors no feelings towards Lex.

Oh how I miss season 3 Lexana! Lana trusted Lex's opinion more than she did Clarks at that point, but that dang season 4 got in the way and keeps mucking up my couple! Urgh.

sunshine1973

10-28-2005, 06:00 AM

ummm seems to me the Lex's feelings for Lana are beginning to surface here... he did not even finch much when he heard about Chole but went almost numb when he heard about Lana........

Lobby4Chloe

10-28-2005, 06:10 AM

Oh, no, didn't you see Lana's face when Lex glossed over his 'Alexander' advances at the end of 'Onyx'? Lana has always been turned on by Lex - remember even Nicodemus? She was sorry in 'Onyx' when he didn't admit it to her. I think they would be good together.

Mydhrin

10-28-2005, 06:56 AM

Lexs feelings for Lana were known, but not that obvious since they didnt want to push it too much in the previous seasons because Lana wasnt in age. But now, since shes in age and that they are gonna do a Lexana arc, unfortunatly, they are prepping by showing Lexs feelings for Lana... Im starting to think more and more that Clark knows this too...

TheFourthDoctor

10-28-2005, 07:00 AM

I think that Lex also sees Chloe as a potential threat to exposing his secrets. He probably thought that this was the perfect opportunity to get rid of a potential enemy.

lexs&os

10-28-2005, 08:20 AM

What I also found interesting is that Clark mentions Chloe first before Lana - granted she was in the hospital, but at the same time we've seen Clark put Lana ahead of everyone a number of times. It was almost like, Clark was just going to tell Lex about Chloe, but realized that Lex really didn't jump when he mentioned her condition and Lana was kinda thrown in there with a "I think she's infected too" - Clark already knew she was - not that he wouldn't want to save Lana, I don't know if he was trying to protect her from Lex because he started to think Lex wants Lana or what. Maybe Clark was testing the waters.....

FlashFan

10-28-2005, 08:28 AM

I don't think it's a secret that Lex has the warm-fuzzies for Lana (hey, if they got married, they wouldn't have to change the monograms on anything !)

As for Chloe, since she stood her ground with Lex in Mortal (i think), he most likely sees her as an adversary and wouldn't bother to help her.

True she could be a tool to learn Clark's secret, but given her petient for investigative reporting, she could just as easily uncover his, something Lex probably doesn't want to chance..at this point.

KalLover07

10-28-2005, 08:37 AM

I'm just bothered that noone gives a s%$t about Chloe. When I saw Lex's reaction, I didn't think how much he must care about Lana, but more how wrong it was of him to not care so much about Chloe.

FlashFan

10-28-2005, 08:45 AM

On the brightside, Clark did mention Chloe first.

Also Clark stayed with Chloe when she was bitten, rather than chase down Lana. He didn't make a move to get to Lana.t

lexs&os

10-28-2005, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by FlashFan
On the brightside, Clark did mention Chloe first.

Also Clark stayed with Chloe when she was bitten, rather than chase down Lana. He didn't make a move to get to Lana.t

I was very glad about that too!! 'Bout time...:D

SmvilleTeacher

10-28-2005, 08:58 AM

IMO it is evident to all SV fans that Lex jumped when he heard about Lana. He probably would have let Chloe die. And about not having to chang the monograms for LL & LL the same is for Lois Lane. And in the LnC seris Season 1 when Lex and Lois are planning to get married, Lex actually makes that joke to Lois.

No-El

10-28-2005, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by sunshine1973
ummm seems to me the Lex's feelings for Lana are beginning to surface here... he did not even finch much when he heard about Chole but went almost numb when he heard about Lana........

Yes, the reverse is true with Clark---Clark mentions Chloe First, then Lana.
Maybe it was an after thought on Clark's part, knowing Lex has feelings for Lana, so he can get Lex to act immediately on the situation/problem!

Crazy4Smallville

10-28-2005, 11:26 AM

I think Clark's eyes were opened a little bit about Lana - and her perfect image is starting to fall. He's starting to see who his real friends are. Clark has always cared about Chloe - but he's been blinded by his obsession with Lana.

Basest Rue

10-28-2005, 11:41 AM

I think Lana's moving to Metropolis without telling him until he caught her packing might have shaken his confidence in her a little.

GhostRider

10-28-2005, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Crazy4Smallville
I think Clark's eyes were opened a little bit about Lana - and her perfect image is starting to fall. He's starting to see who his real friends are. Clark has always cared about Chloe - but he's been blinded by his obsession with Lana.

So you're saying merely because he mentions Chloe before Lana it means that "he's starting to see who his real friends are." Come on. It didn't mean anything. They wrote it that way so we could see Lex's intial reaction to Chloe, which was indifference, to his reaction to Lana, which was concern. Last I saw Clark was kissing Lana.

xrayvision

10-28-2005, 11:58 AM

Well, I guess we will see. I liked how in Dichotic, Clark was tending completely to Chloe even when Lana screamed as she & Ian were about to fall off the dam. He only started to act when she yelled out his name.

slave2moonlight

10-28-2005, 12:15 PM

Always knew Lex had feelings for Lana. Frankly, I'd say his feelings for Lana are, in some ways, more real than Clark's (mostly superficial) feelings for her. And, really, why would Lex care about Chloe?

As for this past episode, which I thought was great fun, I feel it had a lot of important plot points in it too. It seemed far more than just a Halloween treat to me. I really felt we got some insight into Clark and Lana's relationship, and why it ultimately won't work out. It seemed to me that vampire Lana didn't even care about saving Clark till she found out he was "special." And, Lana herself made the point that neither is totally open with the other. Throw another pretty girl in Clark's face, and he forgets about Lana pretty quickly, and they're already having the issues of going to different colleges that break up so many high school relationships. I forget, did they ever resolve her living situation in the end, or did she decide not to stay at that school?

Anyway, the irony is (forgetting that Clark's true love is Lois), Clark should have let Lana stay a vampire. I mean, knowing that he is pretty much immortal too (Of course, he doesn't know that), he could have had a mate with the potential to not grow old and die on him.

All about Clark

10-28-2005, 01:26 PM

She's staying in Chloe's dorm now.

I think Clark takes care of the individual in the most dire straights, which is how it should be. Chloe being unconscious with a bite was more vital than Lana's condition.

I don't see Clark reacting different to Lana, he knows she wasn't herself, and has always forgiven people who were in some kind of strange condition, even forgave Chloe in Truth and that was a close one.

Aloof

10-28-2005, 03:02 PM

babyface14

10-28-2005, 03:44 PM

that pissed me off

smallville_fetish

10-28-2005, 04:32 PM

too bad lana probably wouldnt do the same...

or maybe its too soon to know. i just hope not cuz that sickens me.

superhippie2000

10-28-2005, 05:09 PM

ya it was funny cause it shows how lex is in love with lana. its like in the commentary for spell when they were talking abiout how clark sees lana on the ground so he helps her but doesnt bother to help chloe or lois

Chesay

10-28-2005, 05:17 PM

I thought it was well acted and you were able to see how Lex feels and what it takes to motivate him to do good. In past episodes Lex has not had such an unselfish manner regarding Lana and it wasn't clear if he still cared for her as he once did or if he was simply using her as a pawn. This helped establish that he still has romantic feelings for her, although I dread the thought of Lexana and wonder what it is going to take to make Lana feel similarly toward him. She has been almost nasty to him in recent episodes for no good reason it seemed to me, until he was caught in her apartment again snooping.

Old Juan

10-28-2005, 05:25 PM

It shouldn't really come as a surprise that Lex was more concerned for Lana than Chloe. Lex and Chloe are no longer on any kind of amicable terms and really haven't been since season 4.

umm

10-28-2005, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Old Juan
It shouldn't really come as a surprise that Lex was more concerned for Lana than Chloe. Lex and Chloe are no longer on any kind of amicable terms and really haven't been since season 4.

I agree! I completly understand why Lex reacted the way he did! I mean Chloe is just a best friend of Clark´s as far as he is concerned, to him she means nothing, and it´s the same way with Chloe! Lex is just an really irratating pest as far as Chloe is concerned, one, she would love to see gone for ever out of hers and Clark´s life, I imagine!
Lana on the other hand, means a great deal to lex, God only knows why? In fact I think that his feelings for her might be a lot more real that Clark´s feelings for Lana! While Lex isn´t perfect and his views on love likewise, he is at least more realistic, to the fact that Lana isn´t perfect and and is flawed and weak at sometimes, much like himself, which is why they would fit quit well together! Clark on the other hand sees Lana as this godly creature he worshiped for years!
So I am glad that this episode confirmed Lex´affection towards Lana and his indifference to Chloe (much to the dismay of Chlexers I am sure), simply cos Chloe is too god for him! She would end up much like his own mother if she ever got involved with Lex, Lucas, or Lionel for that matter! They would be like poison to her! And I am sure nobody wants that for Chloe! So you go Lexana! You would make a perfect couple!

tonytr87

10-28-2005, 06:43 PM

Actually, Lex and Chloe were sorta friends back in Season 3 and at the beginning of Season 4. Remember, she helped bring down his father and put him in jail? And Lex helped protect her during the trial? I too have been wondering why Lex all of a sudden doesn't care if Chloe live or dies, I mean I know he found her in the mansion when the stone disappeared from his vault, but other than that he has no real reason to suspect that she knows more about Clark and the stones than she's telling. And there wasn't a whole lot of interaction between the two of them in Season 4 to suggest he had any other reason to hate her or vice versa.

However, his reaction to Lana's name certainly suggests he has deeper feelings for her, and this is something I've thought all along. You could tell in Commencement with the look he had on his face after Lana started yelling that he didn't care about her and all he cared about was the stone. He looked remorseful. His feelings for her are genuine. Although I wouldn't say they're more real than Clark's. Clark is IN LOVE with Lana, it's not superficial or all about looks. And people keep acting like Lana's behavior in Thirst was actually for real. Hello! The vampirisim clearly affected her emotionally too.

Anyway I'm just interested to see how Lana will begin to lean towards Lex, considering she doesn't like him that much right now. And another thing, I thought it was pretty obvious why Lex has feelings for Lana. Think about it, every woman he's ever been with has either betrayed or tried to kill him. Lana is the only one he's ever been able to trust. In a way I think Lana has become what Clark was last season, the one person who reminds Lex there are still good ppl in the world. Notice that her being in danger caused him to do the right thing as he also helped the other people infected.

Damn this is a long post, but I gotta lot to say. My last words: I don't know if anyone caught this, but in the spoilers it said there's a scene where Lex personally cures Chloe while she's in the hospital. Most likely the scene was cut, but if Lex truly wanted Chloe dead, why would they have a scene like that in the first place? Confusing to say the least.

xrayvision

10-28-2005, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by tonytr87
Actually, Lex and Chloe were sorta friends back in Season 3 and at the beginning of Season 4. Remember, she helped bring down his father and put him in jail? And Lex helped protect her during the trial? I too have been wondering why Lex all of a sudden doesn't care if Chloe live or dies, I mean I know he found her in the mansion when the stone disappeared from his vault, but other than that he has no real reason to suspect that she knows more about Clark and the stones than she's telling. And there wasn't a whole lot of interaction between the two of them in Season 4 to suggest he had any other reason to hate her or vice versa.

He knows that she's covering Clark's secret because she pushed him into the cave wall in Commencement to stop him from entering the chamber with the stones. And he is certain that Clark was in that chamber as he showed us. He dislikes her as much as he dislikes Clark. This distrust/dislike was further developed when he found her in the Yukon and muttering something about Clark in the cave when she was in it by herself. Lex also suspects that she saw how his safe was broken into and how the stone was stolen. He isn't stupid. He is fuming mad at Chloe for the loss of his stone whether or not there is evidence to prove otherwise.

As for Chloe, her dislike of Lex started showing in Scare after that scare gas dilemma ended. She really distrusted him in Onyx when she told Clark how Luthorcorp projects have a tendency to become disasters. Even though we can't really blame Lex for those accidents (his motives were good), you can't really blame her for how she distrusts him. As Jonathan said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Lex basically got where he is by being too curious & experimental (with green k) for his own good. Lana is also too curious for her own good. She shouldn't have been playing with spell books after mysteriously getting that tattoo and shouldn't have tried to keep that air stone for herself. Same for Chloe, but in her case, I think the trouble she got into due to curiosity has improved her greatly.

tonytr87

10-28-2005, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by xrayvision
He knows that she's covering Clark's secret because she pushed him into the cave wall in Commencement to stop him from entering the chamber with the stones. And he is certain that Clark was in that chamber as he showed us. He dislikes her as much as he dislikes Clark. This distrust/dislike was further developed when he found her in the Yukon and muttering something about Clark in the cave when she was in it by herself. Lex also suspects that she saw how his safe was broken into and how the stone was stolen. He isn't stupid. He is fuming mad at Chloe for the loss of his stone whether or not there is evidence to prove otherwise.

As for Chloe, her dislike of Lex started showing in Scare after that scare gas dilemma ended. She really distrusted him in Onyx when she told Clark how Luthorcorp projects have a tendency to become disasters. Even though we can't really blame Lex for those accidents (his motives were good), you can't really blame her for how she distrusts him. As Jonathan said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Lex basically got where he is by being too curious & experimental (with green k) for his own good. Lana is also too curious for her own good. She shouldn't have been playing with spell books after mysteriously getting that tattoo and shouldn't have tried to keep that air stone for herself. Same for Chloe, but in her case, I think the trouble she got into due to curiosity has improved her greatly.

You make good points. Although I don't think you can group Lex's dislike of Chloe with his distrust of Clark. He definitely isn't close to wanting Clark dead yet. However I don't think it's so much him wanting Chloe dead as it's him not wanting to go out of his way to help her. I just think it'd odd how quickly Lex has changed between the end of Season 3 and the end of Season 4. I mean in Forsaken Lex had a clue that Pete new Clark's secret and yet he protected him from the FBI agent and then said Clark was right "to confide in you instead of me." Now when he suspects that Chloe's in on it, he hates her and keeps trying to pry for information.

Aloof

10-29-2005, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by No-El
Yes, the reverse is true with Clark---Clark mentions Chloe First, then Lana.
Maybe it was an after thought on Clark's part, knowing Lex has feelings for Lana, so he can get Lex to act immediately on the situation/problem!

This exactly what I was thinking! I think Clark knows that Lex has feelings for Lana. Maybe next time when Chloe is in trouble, Clark should just mention Lana. :p

DARKRAGE

10-29-2005, 08:34 PM

without writing alot like you good folk Lex was so I want to save Lana didnt really care about Chloe

ISUZU

10-29-2005, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by bunkmania
After chloe is hospitalized, marsters tells clark to confront lex about a special project 1138 that could help him save chloe and lana from the "rabies virus"...

Clark asks lex to come clean and tell him everything he knows about it....... Lex plays dumb.....

Clark says chloe is in the hospital dieing because of it.....Lex shys away...

Clark says "i think lana has been infected by it too..."
Lex's pupils enlarge and he tells clark everything about 1138

how deep are lex's feelings for lana.....

I dont think Lex can actually love - if he is in love with Lana then remember Lionels old words - that Lex loves the dark haired woman rather than the bubbly blonde. I think its more to do with Lana feeding him information on Clark now and then and his hopes that when Clark spills the beans on his secret to Lana OR Lana finds out without Clark knowing - she will come running to Lex with the info. She has gone to Lex on numerous occasions in previous seasons and she contiues to go to him at hard times when she seems unable to turn to anyone.

markbot

10-29-2005, 09:25 PM

chloe must die soon. she is going to ruin everything for lois and clark. DIE!!!

smallvillerocks45

10-29-2005, 10:53 PM

I totally noticed Lex made a complete 360 in his efforts to help Clark when Lana was mentioned. This bugs me a little bit, but not just because it meant that Lex didn't really care about Chloe...it also bugs me, because I don't want Lex to be the reason why Clark and Lana don't stay together, and it looks like that very well may be the case (or at least one of the reasons).

SmallvilleMan

10-29-2005, 11:00 PM

No doubt lex has feelings for lana, whether real or not is a question. I think it's real for him, that part of lexana is right. Except lana has no feelings for him, that i've seen.

rx7g3n3s1s

10-30-2005, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by constancelight
I know! That totally bothered me. I thought Lex just wanted Lana as a tool. But, now with this, I am thinking they want us to believe that Lex is deeply in love with lana.

Does he hate Chloe that much? I would think he would want to save her just so he could keep trying to weasle out Clark's secret from her.
no i think he actually cared about chloe in this scene, when clark mentioned chloe, lex stopped for a moment

chloeandpete

10-30-2005, 12:41 AM

I am not sure Lex really cares about Lana,,, I think he sees her as a challenge - (a nice girl who is a change of pace for him.) I think he has already caught Lana's eye because of the comment Lana made in the first episode of the season... saying to Clark that Lex is the real hero of the story. (referring to how Lex got FEMA to take action quickly by pulling strings.)

SmallvilleMan

10-30-2005, 12:43 AM

"Yeah, lex is a real hero." That quote sounded pretty sarcastic to me, especially with the look on her face.

smallvillerocks45

10-30-2005, 01:56 AM

I thought she was saying that sarcastically too.

markbot

10-30-2005, 06:20 AM

i can see it clearly.....lex will drive a wedge between lana and clark. clark will despise him for it.

Liriel

10-30-2005, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by rx7g3n3s1s
no i think he actually cared about chloe in this scene, when clark mentioned chloe, lex stopped for a moment

I have to disagree. I think the pause was there so the audience could see that even with a sick/dying Chloe, Lex asn't going to tell Clark anything.

Lex definitely helped because of Lana. He even said "Lana" right after Clark told him that (BTW Clark, you think Lana's infected?).

cathan

10-30-2005, 09:09 AM

I thought Lex was going to try and save Chloe so then he could play that card when asking her about Clark. But the way it looks it seems Lex has realized Chloe will never tell him the true so he doesn't bother himself trying to save her because he knows he will never find out anything from her.

CK&CK

10-30-2005, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by markbot
chloe must die soon. she is going to ruin everything for lois and clark. DIE!!!

Why?.....Lois and Clark will not happen for about 6-7 more years. How does that effect what happens in between. Also remember, that a lot of the classic Superman characters were not there from the beginning (Superman's classic comic book debut). Some of them came decades later. So who's to say what the road to Lois & Clark is supposed to be. The thing that annoys me is that this is still Smallville, but some people can't wait......they want Lois & Clark right now....this instant. L & C is in the future.....and when they are both working at the Daily Planet.....No Up, Up, and Away for them......at least until then. What is overdue is the Lexana.....Bring it on Baby!

Originally posted by chloeandpete
I am not sure Lex really cares about Lana,,, I think he sees her as a challenge - (a nice girl who is a change of pace for him.) I think he has already caught Lana's eye because of the comment Lana made in the first episode of the season... saying to Clark that Lex is the real hero of the story. (referring to how Lex got FEMA to take action quickly by pulling strings.)

Actually, I thought this comment was without a doubt sarcastic. But however sarcastic, it doesn't change the fact that Lana has shown something deeper inside her as far as Lex is concerned. The last scene between the two in Onyx was a solid example of this. Some people just don't want to believe it so they will either ignore it, or simply say that it's because Lana is a good person. Of these two reasonings, I think I can stomach the first one better.......that's not to say that Lana is not a good person.......but in my opinion...that's clearly not good reasoning with respect to this particular scene.

Lex says that no matter what his feelings are....he'd never do anything to jeopordize their friendship. Lana replies....."I know"......and this is one of a few times that her subtle facial expressions were top notch. Lex was vulnarable and she somehow felt connected to him in that scene. It was also one of the few moments where I actually caught myself really liking Lana.........I was like.....Whoa?.....Okay, what just happened? But then Faster than a Speeding Bullet......Seasons 1,2, & 3 came rushing back to me......along with her angry "are you sure" comment from earlier in that same scene...........and I was snapped back to reality faster than The Flash in Overdrive. So again I say.....Enough Draculana! Bring on the Lexana!

tonytr87

10-30-2005, 02:07 PM

Have all of yall forgotten about the spoilers for Thirst? In them they describe a scene where Lex is personally injecting Chloe with the cure, so he definitely doesn't want her dead. Especially since he probably wants to keep her around for information if he can get it outa her. That scene was probably cut for whatever reason.

And I think Lex's feelings for Lana are genuine. It's pretty obvious with the look on his face right before he sends her off on the helicopter in Commencement. Who knows about Lana though. I think that "Me too" after Lex leaves in Onyx was supposed to hint she has some feelings for him.

Liriel

10-30-2005, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by tonytr87
Have all of yall forgotten about the spoilers for Thirst? In them they describe a scene where Lex is personally injecting Chloe with the cure, so he definitely doesn't want her dead. Especially since he probably wants to keep her around for information if he can get it outa her. That scene was probably cut for whatever reason.

To be fair, that scene could have been cut simply because they didn't want Lex to want Chloe alive. I'm not saying it was (more likely time reasons), but it's possible.

And certainly even if it was left in it wouldn't nullify the lack of caring when Clark first mentioned it. What I mean is - even if Lex would go inject Chloe and save her it doesn't mean he'd risk revealing info on the project to save her, as he did Lana.

Watching Smallville

10-30-2005, 02:16 PM

I didn't get the impression that Lex didn't care about Chloe. To me it looked like a *sigh, here we go again* kind of pause, since Chloe is always turning up in the middle of his business.

The reaction to Lana, though, was a real signal to what's coming up. I'm looking forward to the development of Lexana. Should be really interesting, if they do it right.

Small2

10-30-2005, 02:43 PM

As much as I disbelieve that Lexana will happen, I agree with "CK&CK". There was something in the encounter at the end of Onyx., and that Kreuk is superb in her use of subtle facial expressions.

Now in the dialogue,
Lex: "What ever my feelings are, I'd never do anything to jeopardies our friendship."

and Lana's reply,

Lana: "I know".

I felt it was stressing the friendship aspect of their relationship, which is definitely there even today. It's in the next two lines that "evil" Lana may have appeared.

Lex: (As he turns to leave) "I really am sorry."

Lana: (After Lex is gone) "So am I."

What!! Lana is sorry Lex is sorry. That look on her face seems to imply the evil Lana, that we've seen come out a couple of times. Great scene. This line is the only statement which has ever implied potential Lexana.

Should be some interesting upcoming episodes.

CK&CK

10-30-2005, 04:11 PM

[i]I felt it was stressing the friendship aspect of their relationship, which is definitely there even today. It's in the next two lines that "evil" Lana may have appeared.

Lex: (As he turns to leave) "I really am sorry."

Lana: (After Lex is gone) "So am I."

What!! Lana is sorry Lex is sorry. That look on her face seems to imply the evil Lana, that we've seen come out a couple of times. Great scene. This line is the only statement which has ever implied potential Lexana.

Should be some interesting upcoming episodes. [/B]

Actually, I didn't remember the scene perfectly. Thanks for pointing out the "So am I" reply to Lex. That is actually the main line that I was referring to. Good memory Small2.

tonytr87

10-30-2005, 04:59 PM

Even if Lana isn't so enamored with Lex right now, I think they're gonna develop it through the next few episodes. As we can see from pics Lex is gonna tell her the truth and show her the spaceship. I think their continuing research into it will form a stronger bond between them and ultimately bring them together at the end of this season. Most likely Lana will see Clark lying to her and then Lex being truthful about everything and therefore fall for Lex a little bit. So for those who don't think Lana's side of it is believable, I think they're building up to that.

CK&CK

10-30-2005, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by tonytr87
Even if Lana isn't so enamored with Lex right now, I think they're gonna develop it through the next few episodes. As we can see from pics Lex is gonna tell her the truth and show her the spaceship. I think their continuing research into it will form a stronger bond between them and ultimately bring them together at the end of this season. Most likely Lana will see Clark lying to her and then Lex being truthful about everything and therefore fall for Lex a little bit. So for those who don't think Lana's side of it is believable, I think they're building up to that.

Not to mention all that Lex has done for Lana in the past. Without him, she'd be out in the street. Again Onyx "this is my home.....where am I going to go?". I think that's how the line went. Lex's past good deeds will come back to him in a big way.....just as all his misdeeds will evetually come to pass.

DGreen

10-30-2005, 05:51 PM

if they actually have lexana happen, and i don't mean just showing us how much lex cares for her, but them actually getting together. then i think ill stop watching the show. i've watched all this crap happen to clark the last 5 yrs, he certainly doesn't need his former best friend stealing his girlfriend. if it truly happens...this is one guy you won't see on these boards again. i guess i'm just a hopeless romantic. no matter how doomed clana really is, i still want to see them happy.

tonytr87

10-30-2005, 06:23 PM

Does anyone notice that in every season except for 2 Clark has had one main competition for Lana.

S1 - Whitney
S3 - Adam
S4 - Jason
S5 - Lex

Small2

10-30-2005, 07:59 PM

DGreen. Plan on watching SV for awhile yet.

I've done some searching to try and understand where the whole Lexana thing started. Most posters have a vague recollection of Tom Welling saying something about it in an interview at the beginning of this season.

Not to say this is the last word, but I was able to find only one interview where Lexana is actually mentioned. It's a WBTV58 video put out around Sept. 2005.

TW: ... "Those are the two big secrets I know. Well, we have the Fortress of Solitude this year, and Lana is probably going to get together with Lex at the end of the season. But other than that, that's all I know." [Big Grin].

And it was a big grin on his face.

In another forum a poster noted that:

"I take that Lana and Lex thing as a guess on his part. He says that same thing ever time the new sessons start. I don't belive it really. To be honest I remember him saying at the first of Sesson 4 that Lana and Lex whould get togheter. I wonder why he says that all the time."

And as he said in a Dreamwatch interview at the beginning of this season;

"As I'm sure you know, they never tell us anything in advance." Welling explained, "I don't know what is going to happen this season – I don't even have the next script yet, but it seems as though a lot of characters are going to start making their moves this year. The transitions that everybody knows are going to happen at the end of the show are being set in motion."

I'm with you, it would kill me to see it. Too weird, and too unlike the Lana Lang that Kreuk has created.

photogirl

10-31-2005, 07:52 AM

lana and lex...*gag*

Brainiac_13

10-31-2005, 10:35 AM

It's been generally "assumed" that Lex has romantic feelings for Lana since Commencement, hasn't it?

Originally posted by tonytr87
Does anyone notice that in every season except for 2 Clark has had one main competition for Lana.

S1 - Whitney
S3 - Adam
S4 - Jason
S5 - Lex

Actually, I believe he's always had Lex.

Lex has continually done things to screw around with Lana's relationships, and the audience has been given cause to think that his actions were motivated by loyalty to Clark. In light of new evidence: Maybe he's been after her for himself all along.

GhostRider

10-31-2005, 10:48 AM

Lex feels something for Lana. Like many, I don't think it's true love as I believe he is incapable of that at this point. Call it lust, desire, or whatever. The fact he was going to simply take her stone after he promised he'd never take it away from her speaks volumes about Lex’s ability to care for someone.

What struck me in this scene wasn't so much Lex's concern for Lana, I think we all knew about that. But it was Lex's disregard for Chloe. I know that Lex and Chloe aren't friends but I got the distinct impression that if Clark hadn't mentioned Lana being infected Lex wouldn't have given him the details and antidote from 1138. He would have just left Chloe to her fate. It is further evidence of Lex’s growing darkness.

tonytr87

10-31-2005, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Brainiac_13
It's been generally "assumed" that Lex has romantic feelings for Lana since Commencement, hasn't it?

Actually, I believe he's always had Lex.

Lex has continually done things to screw around with Lana's relationships, and the audience has been given cause to think that his actions were motivated by loyalty to Clark. In light of new evidence: Maybe he's been after her for himself all along.

Sorry but through the first two seasons anything Lex did concerning Lana's relationships was always to push her directly towards Clark (hooking Clark up with a limo, pointing Lana in the right direction so she finds out what Whitney did, constantly telling him to go for it, etc.) I don't think it was until Season 3 that he started to have feelings for her. S3 was where the two of them would always have heart to heart talks and then in the finale of course he was there to say goodbye before she went to Paris. I think it all started after his horrible experience with Helen.

SnarkMasterJ

10-31-2005, 01:09 PM

I kinda took Lex's reaction to be a little cold. I mean Clark mentions Chloe -- Lex has this face that says "Yes? And?", suggesting he was waiting for the part where he should care. Then Clark drops Lana's name, and suddenly all things are possible.

It was almost comical, his night and day reactions.

Aloof

10-31-2005, 05:23 PM

Very true about the night and day reactions. I do feel really bad for Chloe.

Like I said before, whenever Chloe is endangered, Clark should tell Lex that Lana is also in danger. And Clark knows that Lex will help out if Lana is in danger, not Chloe.

I don't understand why Lex isn't friendlier to Chloe, she *did* help him out at his father's trial.

But this makes me love the thought of Lexana even more. Slipping over the dark side! :p

Muse25

10-31-2005, 05:29 PM

I think Lex also knows that Chloe is keeping something from him and isn't being honest with him (does this sound vaguely familiar). So I'm not surprised that Lex doesn't give a crap about Chloe. Even despite her being in danger you would think that he would let it go. She's no use to him dead. I agree I think whenever Chloe's in danger and not Lana I think Clark should lie and say that Lana is just so Lex will give him whatever is necessary. Hey whatever works.

Aloof

10-31-2005, 05:34 PM

Of course he doesn't care about Chloe. The only time he would care about her is when she spill her guts, which I hope she'll never do. Chloe is too loyal to Clark to do that.

It doesn't bother me about how Lex reacts to Lana. I just wonder how this will all play out, how they will hook up or whatever. Time will tell. :)

umm

10-31-2005, 05:41 PM

Even though I relish at the thought of Lexana, cos that means no Chlex, which I am against, I can´t believe that Lana is really that naivé to believe that she can trust Lex, that he wouldn´t do anything unethical, ilegal etc... Cos he would, he does it every day! What must she be thinking? She must realize that Lex, in fact is a bad guy! No more turning back, he has already crossed the line between the good and the bad, several times in fact! So why isn´t she running away as if her life depended on it?

Aloof

10-31-2005, 06:31 PM

That's what makes Lexana so intriguing. Well, I can't say that Lana is innocent, but she's definately more innocent than Lex. It's just one of those creepy relationships that I adore. If done right, it can easily attract more fans.

Then again, it disgusts a lot of people. I want to be an individual, and not follow the Clana and Chlark crowds like everyone else. I like to expand the horizon, find other options. Lexana in itself does have potentional. The thing is, I don't know how Lex will get Lana to fall for him. But that's part of his charm. ;)

thehenry89

10-31-2005, 08:09 PM

i just think that lex like every other evil/crazy/bad guy on smallville has finally developed lana fever rawrrr.

GhostRider

10-31-2005, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by umm
Even though I relish at the thought of Lexana, cos that means no Chlex, which I am against, I can´t believe that Lana is really that naivé to believe that she can trust Lex, that he wouldn´t do anything unethical, ilegal etc... Cos he would, he does it every day! What must she be thinking? She must realize that Lex, in fact is a bad guy! No more turning back, he has already crossed the line between the good and the bad, several times in fact! So why isn´t she running away as if her life depended on it?

Exactly, there is no way I can believe that Lana would trust Lex at this point. She’s seen him at his worst and he’s only getting more evil. No matter what happens in Clana, there is nothing that I can see that would make Lana ever fully trust Lex. And Lexana nor not, there is nothing that I can see either that would make Chloe go for Lex. Chloe sees the darkness in him very clearly.

Originally posted by Aloof
That's what makes Lexana so intriguing. Well, I can't say that Lana is innocent, but she's definately more innocent than Lex. It's just one of those creepy relationships that I adore. If done right, it can easily attract more fans.

I don’t find anything intriguing about it, in fact it’s nothing but creepy. Lex preying on Lana’s innocence, making her believe he’s something he’s not is nothing other than sad. The only intriguing romantic relationship for Lex would be with a woman who was his intellectual equal. And while I think Lana isn’t dumb, she isn’t anywhere that smart.

Then again, it disgusts a lot of people. I want to be an individual, and not follow the Clana and Chlark crowds like everyone else. I like to expand the horizon, find other options. Lexana in itself does have potentional. The thing is, I don't know how Lex will get Lana to fall for him. But that's part of his charm. ;)

It’s true many find it disgusting, but I don’t. I’m not a shipper at all, I watch for Clark. However I have many problems with Lexana. First and foremost I don’t want a girl, *any* girl, to play any part in the rift between the two. That story has been done a million times; I want their differences rooted solely in a difference of visions. These are two titans who will fight for the future of the world not to high school boys fighting over who gets to kiss Lana. Secondly I highly doubt they can write Lana falling for Lex in a believable manner, it will seem contrived and unrealistic. Last, I’m am tired of the Clark/Lana/<anyone> triangle completely. It’s been done to death ad nauseam. We’ve had four years of it, it’s time to move on to other storylines.

xrayvision

10-31-2005, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by GhostRider
I don’t find anything intriguing about it, in fact it’s nothing but creepy. Lex preying on Lana’s innocence, making her believe he’s something he’s not is nothing other than sad.

The thing is that Clark is doing the same thing, but for different reasons. He's making her believe that he's normal, when he's not and there is a huge part of him (the fear as portrayed in Scare) that makes him think she will not accept him.

I can tell you that regardless of how good Clark is and how many times he's saved her and many other people, when she finds out that the same person she loves and has been sleeping with is the person whose arrival brought on the meteors that killed her parents and all this has been kept in secrecy, she will forget about all the good he did and completely lose it. It will horrify her in a way that hasn't been seen before. In fact, I wouldn't at all doubt if she does go to Belle Reve and if Lex uses that situation to bring her sanity back and use his deception to win her over.

Think about it. It's not that farfetched. We've seen her overlook the good things he's done many times and blame him for something or another. Two examples:

1. In the end of Dichotic, she says we expected more from you to him after he said the same to Chloe & Lana. She was overlooking all the good he's done (like saving her from the twister, the 2 Ians, etc) and blaming him for being secretive even though she cut him no slack that episode and believed everything that Ian had to say.

2. In Sacred, when they were in the learjet, she said out of all the people she ended up trusting, it was Clark & Lionel. I took this as Clark having caused her great pain and nothing else. Still later on (in Onyx) she says that she's seen him at his best after Clark says the very opposite. From this, it's evident that Lana overlooks good things when it's convenient for her but recognizes them when she needs help.

So I think she will forget all the good he's done and will be driven away from Clark once she finds out the secret. She will eventually turn around and see the good in him, but by then Clana will have been a bad memory.

drwood

10-31-2005, 10:29 PM

Lana will get over it once Clark starts falling for Lois :)

midnite_spark

10-31-2005, 10:49 PM

when that happened...

i went ::shudder:: ICK!

lol no offense to the lexana ppl over here...

GhostRider

10-31-2005, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by xrayvision
The thing is that Clark is doing the same thing, but for different reasons. He's making her believe that he's normal, when he's not and there is a huge part of him (the fear as portrayed in Scare) that makes him think she will not accept him.

You’re right, he is. Clark is being ruled by his fear and that’s causing him to deceive Lana. However his reasons are far, far better than those of Lex. Clark doesn’t want to lie to her, he hates it, and he not hiding the fact that he’s a bad guy. Lex on the other hand lies with ease and is hiding his own inner darkness.

I can tell you that regardless of how good Clark is and how many times he's saved her and many other people, when she finds out that the same person she loves and has been sleeping with is the person whose arrival brought on the meteors that killed her parents and all this has been kept in secrecy, she will forget about all the good he did and completely lose it. It will horrify her in a way that hasn't been seen before. In fact, I wouldn't at all doubt if she does go to Belle Reve and if Lex uses that situation to bring her sanity back and use his deception to win her over.

I don’t think it will happen that way at all. They showed Lana horrified and losing it in Scare as Clark’s “nightmare” and they did that for a reason, that being her real reaction will be the opposite. They will show Lana being accepting of Clark and it will allow Clark to finally truly accept himself. It will be a watershed moment in his development.

Think about it. It's not that farfetched. We've seen her overlook the good things he's done many times and blame him for something or another. Two examples:

1. In the end of Dichotic, she says we expected more from you to him after he said the same to Chloe & Lana. She was overlooking all the good he's done (like saving her from the twister, the 2 Ians, etc) and blaming him for being secretive even though she cut him no slack that episode and believed everything that Ian had to say.

2. In Sacred, when they were in the learjet, she said out of all the people she ended up trusting, it was Clark & Lionel. I took this as Clark having caused her great pain and nothing else. Still later on (in Onyx) she says that she's seen him at his best after Clark says the very opposite. From this, it's evident that Lana overlooks good things when it's convenient for her but recognizes them when she needs help.

So I think she will forget all the good he's done and will be driven away from Clark once she finds out the secret. She will eventually turn around and see the good in him, but by then Clana will have been a bad memory.

I think you have consider these things from Lana’s POV. Once you do that her position is logical and totally understandable. She knows he’s a good guy but she can’t comprehend why he won’t let her in and just tell her the truth. She certainly doesn’t know about RedK and how it’s behind most of his strange behavior. She doesn’t know why he’s hurt her all those times. He never gives her an explanation. He lies, over and over again. Bad lies too. Lana is understanding when she understands. But she never does because Clark never gives her the chance, it’s something they’ve been playing on for four years. I think the writing is on the wall, Lana learning the secret is not going to drive her away from Clark, it’s Clark not having the courage to trust her and tell her that is.

Small2

11-01-2005, 12:35 AM

ghostrider you make a number of good points. I would like to add some more food for thought.

I don't believe the whole Lana is going to blame Clark for the death of her parents when she finally finds out that Clark came with the meteors. That image, (the one showed in Scared), is Clark's and Clark's alone. It is based on Clarks assumptions of who Lana was many years ago, and it has stayed that way in his mind because he has hardly ever allowed it out in the open.

Lana has long since satisfactorily dealt with her parents death and moved forward with her life. She has tried to explain this to Clark but he is frozen with his own fear.

You may very well be correct that when Clark finally explains himself to Lana,(who will accept that aspect of who he is), it will allow him to willingly accept himself and become Superman.

That's the sweet part. The bitter part is Lana will not be able to accept the long history of lying. From her POV, it shows a fundamental lack of trust on his part. Without trust you can't have a long term relationship.

I can see that from Clark's POV he is trying to protect Lana. Lana is going to have a very hard time reconcilling those two issues.

Good discussion. Keep it coming.

tonytr87

11-01-2005, 06:58 PM

I know a lota stuff has happened since Season 3 (Arrival for example) but ppl seem to forget the scene between Clark and Lana at the end of Extinction. Where she tells him that it would be okay if he was affected by the meteors (ie. having powers). I also don't understand this whole "Lana will blame Clark for her parents' deaths" argument. I don't even understand why Clark believes this. Say he told Lana that he arrived in the meteor shower. Arriving in the shower doesn't = causing the shower. And therefore it doesn't equal him being responsible for her parents' deaths. The shower was caused by his home planet blowing up. So I don't see why Clark and especially Lana would make any sort of connection that puts blame on Clark himself. This constant fear of his is ridiculous.

As for Lex and Lana. I can see Lana eventually falling for Lex, it's not that unrealistic. The only things Lana knows about concerning Lex's misdeeds are when he got Jason fired (which she kinda forgave him for when he came forward with info on Jason) and then of course his trying to get the stone from her in Commencement. Other than that he has always been truthful helpful to her, or at least that's as far as she knows.

I also wonder why only some sneaking suspicion of Lex's causes him to be careless towards Chloe's life when she did afterall help put his father in prison. Other than her presence at the scene of his stolen stone, he has no reason to hate her.