The Eradicator?

[xrayvision]

I really think that voice from the orb was the Eradicator. I wonder why it didn't talk for Lex.

[REebee52]

That makes a lot of sense, actually. It could protect the world from Clark, or protect Clark once he dies in battle... But why is it so connected with Kandor? Great theory though.

[sushtsi]

What exactly did the orb say in the end? I couldn't really make it out

[amandaa125]

i'm wondering what it said too i couldnt hear it either

[REebee52]

"You shall be the savior of Kandor" is the most important part.

[sushtsi]

Well Kandor is the capitol city of Krypton so that makes sense I guess.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I think it was Zod.

[roccanater]

I really think that voice from the orb was the Eradicator. I wonder why it didn't talk for Lex.

That would be cool. I wanted The Eradicator ever since last season.

[xrayvision]

I've wanted it since season 6. I hope I'm not disappointed again.

Whatever is happening should have been tied to Kara's journey. Where did she hear those rumors about Kandor? The Phantom Zone? Maybe the orb can communicate with people trapped in the Zone. Like SV's version of jewel-k.

[Baron Karza]

Exactly how many artificial kryptonian lifeforms with the same shtick (more or less) can you tolerate? It had better not be the Eradicator.

[roccanater]

Exactly how many artificial kryptonian lifeforms with the same shtick (more or less) can you tolerate? It had better not be the Eradicator.

I disagree. The Eradicator would be awesome and work well in the plotline I think.

[Baron Karza]

I disagree. The Eradicator would be awesome and work well in the plotline I think.

You're forgetting who's writing these stories.

[Vergon6]

I've wanted it since season 6. I hope I'm not disappointed again.

Whatever is happening should have been tied to Kara's journey. Where did she hear those rumors about Kandor? The Phantom Zone? Maybe the orb can communicate with people trapped in the Zone. Like SV's version of jewel-k.
That's possible. But it seems they retconned what that orb was for.

[xrayvision]

Maybe not a retcon, but more information that we never had before. Maybe the orb is used for a multitude of reasons.

[Vergon6]

Maybe not a retcon, but more information that we never had before. Maybe the orb is used for a multitude of reasons.
Perhaps. Maybe including explaining retcons from previous seasons :lol: Infinite Crisis anyone :p.

[xrayvision]

:)

If it is the Eradicator, I wonder if it's possessing Tess like the Eradicator in the comics did with various scientists.

I doubt it's Zod, because last time that crystal busted Zod out and he wouldn't want it destroyed.

[SGuthrie27]

I like the idea of the voice belonging to the Eradicator, but I agree that it's rather a stretch for the show to pull in that character and concept. It's more likely to be a return of Zod, but I don't know how they'd end up being able to explain it, even though we know Zod's not officially dead. He was just sucked out of Lex by Clark's kryptonian shield that he'd gotten from Raya.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[xrayvision]

I don't understand why it's such a stretch. The Eradicator is a major part of the Superman mythos that has yet to be explored on Smallville.

Also, if anything was interested in saving Kandor and other aspects of Krypton as well as bringing Krypton to Earth, it's the Eradicator. That is the purpose of the Eradicator in the comics.

Also, given the huge possibility that Clark will die as a result of his fight with Doomsday and based on the Eradicator's role in his revival in the comics, it would be a perfect time to bring it on.

[Dark_Superman]

i agree with xrayvision, though i still say its a 33/33/33 shot thats eradictor/zod/something else we havent considered. everyone keeps saying because of the symbol for zod appearing its a guaranteed Zod thing. But maybe its as much a family crest as the Superman Sheild? Which would just mean its something Davis related, as he is the "son" of Zod. Though I can see why people would say Davis will become Zod, as Foara (sp) said Davis was the spitting image of his father, could have been an early tease. My guess is that most likely, were not getting a response until Sept/Oct when Season 9 hits.

[xrayvision]

Also, don't forget that the Eradicator in the comics went from being a device to creating its own body out of Superman's DNA from his birthing matrix after Superman died.

Since that can't happen exactly in Smallville as it did in the comics, I would think that it wants to pit Clark against Doomsday so it could either possess or take a piece of Clark's DNA to create its own body and become someone like The Last Son of Krypton as it did in the comics:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/7/7a/ACTION690.JPG


Also, given the fact that Clark asked Ollie to get some black-k for him, I wouldn't be surprised if Clark turns out to have his Kal-El side split off and possessed by the Eradicator. There's no way the search for that black-k was for nothing.

[chloesmygirl]

What exactly did the orb say in the end? I couldn't really make it out


Orb: Is Kal-El ready to fulfull the prophecy?
Tess: I did as you asked. The crystal has been destroyed.
Orb: Then you shall be the savior of Kandor.

[HowardFilms]

Zor. El.

I mean, why would Zod want Doomsday dead? It doesn't follow the plan at all.

I think we have three kryptonian forces at work here. Three kinda douchey dads.

[xrayvision]

I think the Eradicator route would be the best because I don't think Zod would be good for next season. I'm very much hoping to see Intergang show up or at least start their rise to power next season.

The Eradicator freeing Zor-El would be very interesting. If the Eradicator splits off Kal-El from Clark and possesses his body and then releases Zor-El from the Survival Zone and teams up with him, it could make things very interesting next season. It would definitely distract Clark enough to cause the rise of Intergang to become the villians of a 10th & final season. I would love this.

It would even make sense. They could explain Clark's return from a possible death as having to do with the Eradicator's presence in Kal-El's body. Given that there would still be a connection between Clark & Kal-El, Kal-El's body being energized by the Eradicator could have the same effects on Clark's body, allowing him to return.

[Batman/Superman#1]

With that last scene, I was thinking and picturing Zod.

It be great if it's the Eradicator.

[xrayvision]

Another reason I don't think it's Zod is because of the New Krypton storyline from the comics.

I tend to think of what we got a glimpse of at the closing minutes of Injustice as Smallville's version of the New Krypton storyline of the comics. In that storyline, Doomsday's latest death (yes Doomsday did make an appearance) came at the hands of about a dozen Kandorians--yes Kandorians, just like the voice mentioned Kandor---who relentlessly beat on his skull until they crushed it & killed him. If that was Zod's voice, he wouldn't want anyone from Kandor ganging up on & killing his son. The Kandorians would definitely feel threatened by him and help Clark kill him.

Instead, I think that was the Eradicator and it plans to have Tess use the black-k Clark had Ollie steal for him on Clark after Doomsday & Clark kill each other (which is likely to happen). So in a way similar to the comics where the Eradicator created its own body after Superman's death from his battle with Doomsday, I think here it will split off Clark's Kal-El side, which is capable of flight, and possess it. When it revives Clark's Kal-El side, Clark will also be revived due to the molecular connection between the 2 sides of Clark.

I really hope I'm right about this and this happens.

[ChronX4]

I would like for it to be all part of a Zod/Brainiac collaboration to try to stop or take revenge on the House of El, meaning everything from Jor-El (the version that took and brain washed Clark, and did other things that threatened lives) and the whole "rule with strengh" message on the ship was just to throw him off from Jor-El's intended protector of Earth job long enough to try to return.

So the orb isn't suppose to control the Traveler, and is actually a Zod AI that's currently trying to eliminate any way that Clark can stop Doomsday by lying to Tess about the City of Kandor.

[xrayvision]

I wouldn't like that. It would piss too many people off and make Jor-El worthless. It would also create too many plotholes. They had a chance to do something like that last season. I hope they move forward with the Eradicator than going backward with Zod or Brainiac.

["Lois I Never Lie"]

Orb: Is Kal-El ready to fulfull the prophecy?
Tess: I did as you asked. The crystal has been destroyed.
Orb: Then you shall be the savior of Kandor.

What crystal did Tess destroy?

[anewbie]

What crystal did Tess destroy?

the crystal that she took from Clark's barn.... Clark showed it to Chloe (impersonator) in the early scenes...

[xrayvision]

I still have a hard time believing that crystal wasn't destroyed in Solitude. It was clear in that episode that the crystal was part of Brainiac. That means, it should have disappeared with the rest of Brainiac---Milton Fine & the Black Ship. Especially after Zod removed the power source/hard drive. They really pulled that out of their proverbial asses.

[Exedore]

Yes! Finally it looks like we are getting the Eradicator. This is awesome! :D I've wanted this for a long time. Don't disappoint me again TPTB please! I am willing to forgive the Orb retcon because it being the Eradicator makes much more sense than Jor El sending some crystal that just strips Clark of his powers.

Although I like the idea of Kal El and Clark being separated again, I'm not holding my breath. Just getting the Eradicator is way more than I expected already. :)

That Brainiac crystal just didn't make sense. They should let Clark get something from the FOS to use against Doomsday rather than creating yet another plothole. :\

They need to provide an explanation for why the Orb didn't talk to Lex. Oh well, for now I'll just conclude that it only talks to hot women with delusions of saviours and prophecies. :D

[xrayvision]

I'll be grateful if it happens, but I've been disappointed before, so I just don't know.

It really makes the most sense. Between the parallel with the comics & how the Eradicator revived Clark after creating & possessing a body of its own, and how its/his purpose in the comics is to preserve all things Kryptonian (Kandor in this case), it would be perfect. The black-k would split off a flight-capable body for it to possess. I really hope my expectations are finally met.

The Eradicator is so much different than any other thing Clark has faced. It is a great adversary, while also being a great asset once he learns how to control it. It would also be a great way of finally showing flashbacks with Kem-El creating it to save Krypton from its doom (which he would have known about given the cave legend) and also being the first one to visit Earth in the 1500's, create the cave legend & paintings, create the stones, and become the father of the Kawatche tribe (where they can get back to that bracelet).

[roccanater]

You're forgetting who's writing these stories.

I don't know. I still think it could work.

[Lok]

I hope the Eradicator takes over Clarks body so Kal-El and Clark can fly in season 9 ;)

The only thing is I am not too sure I would like a storyline with 2 Clarks in it again, like Bizarro.....

[xrayvision]

I don't know. I still think it could work.

It can, but they'll probably do something stupid. I always wondered where Lionel got that Kryptonian Rubik's Cube thing that Clark found in his vault after his death. There's no way he made that thing and I expected an explanation but we never got one. Something tells me we'll get a lame ending to the orb thing as well.

[Shaftell]

Who's the Eradicator?

[xrayvision]

Who's the Eradicator?

It's a "what" that eventually became a "who". Here is a great history of the Eradicator:

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/comics.php?topic=special-reports/eradicator


My abridged version:

In the comics the Eradicator was a Kryptonian device invented by Kem-El, one of Superman's ancestors. Its primary goal was to preserve Kryptonian culture. After it first appeared, it was shown to have its own agenda. It did things like open portals to the Phantom Zone, it withdrew technological devices, it possessed various scientists (I believe from STAR Labs), tried to convert the sun into a red dwarf (like Krypton's sun), and caused Jimmy Olsen a lot of pain by making him malleable. Superman went through a rite of passage to learn how to control it after meeting the spirit of Kem-El. When he returned to the Fortress, he was finally able to order it to shut down. Later on, just after Superman died, the robots at the Fortress took a piece of Superman's DNA from his birthing matrix (the device that transported Superman's cells to Earth since in the post Crisis comics he was born on Earth) and created a body housing the Eradicator in it. It possessed the body and became a Kryptonian like being that looked like Superman but was able to sense electrical waves and his eyes were sensitive to light, making him wear the visor he wore. He was called The Last Son of Krypton and was one of 4 Supermen that surfaced. Eventually the real Superman returned severely depowered and one of the other Supermen, the Cyborg Superman, tried to kill him using kryptonite gas. The Eradicator shielded him and was hit by a blast of energy that went through him and hit Superman. The energy killed the Eradicator but fully recharged Superman's powers.

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----

Check out post #20 of this thread to see how he looked like in the comics after becoming The Last Son of Krypton.