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TheANIMAL (marcus)
03-27-2009, 05:06 AM
Oliver was tooking at the paper of Lex murder investigation and was looking regretful, it was obviously playing on his mind, i thought Zatanna ressurected Lex then and there granting Olviers wish without him knowing.





Thoughts anyone?

----- Added 29 Minutes later -----

I should also mention that i heard the Zatanna jingle sound effect when Oliver was looking at the newspaper aswell, before she took of.

ScooterKalEl
03-27-2009, 05:45 AM
Unfortunately, Michael is not going to play Lex.

TheANIMAL (marcus)
03-27-2009, 05:53 AM
Yes i know, but i still think Lex has just been resurrected.

Ray Man
03-27-2009, 07:23 AM
How? I didn't see anything happen to Olivers eyes like Clarks did. They would've shown that right?

Night_Hawk90
03-27-2009, 08:06 AM
lex is not even dead to begin with

SupermanRox
03-27-2009, 08:26 AM
I think that it is a very real possibility that Lex's character will be resurrected even if Michael Rosenbaum isn't playing him.

"Lois I Never Lie"
03-27-2009, 10:02 AM
Oliver was tooking at the paper of Lex murder investigation and was looking regretful, it was obviously playing on his mind, i thought Zatanna ressurected Lex then and there granting Olviers wish without him knowing.





Thoughts anyone?

----- Added 29 Minutes later -----

I should also mention that i heard the Zatanna jingle sound effect when Oliver was looking at the newspaper aswell, before she took of.

Cant see it as the episode clearly showed to bring someone back you need to sacrifice another life and this wasn't done, so would have to say no to that.

TheANIMAL (marcus)
03-27-2009, 10:08 AM
Cant see it as the episode clearly showed to bring someone back you need to sacrifice another life and this wasn't done, so would have to say no to that.

That was magic for herself, using the book she had to sacrafice a life to bring one back, because she was serving herself through the book.


When she is granting other people their one wish she appears to capable of doing anything, she said that herself.

"no matter what it is, i will grant you that one wish"

Rift
03-27-2009, 10:10 AM
As I mentioned in another thread, the wish was a bargaining chip for the book.

She wouldn't grant it until Ollie got the book for her, otherwise he has no incentive.

TheANIMAL (marcus)
03-27-2009, 10:12 AM
Which is why she granted it for him without Oli realising. She did a similar trick on Clark.

"Lois I Never Lie"
03-27-2009, 10:40 AM
That was magic for herself, using the book she had to sacrifice a life to bring one back, because she was serving herself through the book.


When she is granting other people their one wish she appears to capable of doing anything, she said that herself.

"no matter what it is, i will grant you that one wish"

But why would there be one rule for her and another for others. I think what the episode was getting at was she had to say a certain spell to grant her own wish which was in the book and that was why she needed it. IMO if the rules are to get a life you have to give a life then they are the rules it shouldn't matter if its someone Else's wish or your own that you are granting.

myankskent
03-27-2009, 10:44 AM
I was actually thinking that Oliver was going to make his wish in this episode and it would be to bring Lex back, but it didn't happen.

costas22
03-27-2009, 10:46 AM
I don't understand why he would prefer that over resurrecting his parents.

stenochick
03-27-2009, 10:48 AM
There were spoilers that stated that Ollie's wish was to get his parents back. I guess that was just something they did not have the time to delve into.

SnowBird
03-27-2009, 11:54 AM
Both Chloe and Clark stated outloud their wish so Zantanna could grant it to them. Nothing like that happened with Ollie so I don't think because he was looking at a newspaper with Lex would make Zantanna grant a wish like that. This may, however, be something for a future episode to explore.

Jon-El1984
03-27-2009, 12:26 PM
Lol, TheANIMAL (marcus). You too? I posted a thread asking the same question! I totally think that Ollie wish Lex back as well. The way it was set up can so give you that notion.

Also to Snowbird, I would have to respectfully disagree. Chloe did not een say anything when she wished her wish at the presence of Zatanna. Remember that when her and Clark confronted Zatanna in her dressing room that Zatanna stated that she had no idea what Chloe wished for, but that whatever was on her mind would be granted. Even with Clark; he told Chloe what he would wish for, but Zatanna didn't. She just looked at him and 'poof!' it happened. So it's possible that the same happened to Ollie, but I guess the writers wanted to leave that open and to the interpretation of the audience.

xrayvision
03-27-2009, 12:29 PM
No, because Lex never died. Instead, I think it's more like this:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123481

This would tie Lex into the death of Zatanna's father & really make it possible for him to be around as Oliver and in a way where it's not lame.

Jon-El1984
03-27-2009, 12:32 PM
By the way, if they do bring Lex back but it's not Michael. I think that'll totally kill Smallville. I'm a total die hard fan and every direction the SV crew has taken the show so far, I have respected with few complaints. But to bring back Lex and it not being Michael playing the role will be the worst choice ever. Michael by far has been the best Lex (movie or TV series) to have ever existed. SV Producers and crew, if you're reading this, heed my warning. For then Doomsday will trully come...

chlo-el
03-27-2009, 12:38 PM
No. Oliver made a choice not to ask for it. Besides in order to bring back a life you have kill another life. So I don't think she did.

Jon-El1984
03-27-2009, 12:43 PM
xrayvision, I read your theory and thought it was very interesting. Like that would be really cool if that was the case. But personally, I think that'll be a little bit more far fetched than the REAL Ollie wishing Lex back. I mean if Ollie is really Lex in disguise, would that bring up even more bad news knowing that now Lexiver has now infiltrated the JLA? Not only that, but now knows the identity of every superhero? He would easily be able to bring down the good guys from inside their ranks. Not only that, I think it will take alot away from Davis/Doomsday, knowing that Lex could easily lead them to their doom before Doomsday could do anything. Besides, I think Zatanna would of been murder just in case she becomes aware of who he is and exposes him. Lex might be arrogant, but he's not a moron.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----

Chloe-El, it was said that Zatanna could grant anyone anything they want, even resurrection of someone. But it's when it comes to her own wish that a life will be required for the exchange of another.

xrayvision
03-27-2009, 12:55 PM
xrayvision, I read your theory and thought it was very interesting. Like that would be really cool if that was the case. But personally, I think that'll be a little bit more far fetched than the REAL Ollie wishing Lex back. I mean if Ollie is really Lex in disguise, would that bring up even more bad news knowing that now Lexiver has now infiltrated the JLA? Not only that, but now knows the identity of every superhero? He would easily be able to bring down the good guys from inside their ranks. Not only that, I think it will take alot away from Davis/Doomsday, knowing that Lex could easily lead them to their doom before Doomsday could do anything. Besides, I think Zatanna would of been murder just in case she becomes aware of who he is and exposes him. Lex might be arrogant, but he's not a moron.

Well, the new version of my theory says that there are 2 Olivers now just like there were 2 Lois'es in Hex. The new version of my theory says that Lex had Zatanna's father grant him a wish to make him have Oliver's body as a result of finding out that Oliver & Tess would collaborate to sell Luthorcorp to Queen Industries. Zatanna's father could have been threatened by Lex so that if he didn't grant Lex's wish, Lex would order his men to kill Zatanna, thus explaining why Zatanna said her father sacrificed himself for her (though she wouldn't know the details). After Zatanna's father complied & told her how he was protecting her from someone (not mentioning that it was Lex), Lex had him killed not long after.

Therefore, now I think the Oliver we saw in Requiem was the real Oliver except for the Oliver seen at the very end with the kryptonite ring, which was Lex. This would mean that Lexiver is out of sight somewhere and doesn't know about the JLA, but has instead taken over the team Tess was assembling for him. And Lexiver could be a fighting member of the very team he's leading. Perhaps instead of being an archer, he's ironically a sniper (without knowing about Oliver's/GA's archery skills). If this is the premise of the 2nd last episode of the season (based on its title), then it should be a very cool episode, especially if Lexiver's masked identity is unmasked to be seen as Oliver from Clark's POV. I can see Lex parading around as Oliver and killing Tess as his revenge and starting Lexcorp from the remains of Luthorcorp after what Ollie & Tess did to it.

I really want a story like this that shows how badass Lex is.

kg1507
03-27-2009, 01:40 PM
i think we would've had a scene where we see evidence that Lex had returned.

Jon-El1984
03-30-2009, 09:36 AM
xrayvision, you've just blown my mind!!!! LOL! I see what you're saying. Well I guess we'll find out when Tess's 'Injustice' League comes onto the scene. If we see an Oliver clone sporting a black and purple green arrow costume with a sniper rifle(that would be badass), then it will be certain that your theory is right on target (no pun intended). Lol.

xrayvision
03-31-2009, 05:30 AM
xrayvision, you've just blown my mind!!!! LOL! I see what you're saying. Well I guess we'll find out when Tess's 'Injustice' League comes onto the scene. If we see an Oliver clone sporting a black and purple green arrow costume with a sniper rifle(that would be badass), then it will be certain that your theory is right on target (no pun intended). Lol.

I hope so. The beauty of it is that the title, Injustice, would have a double meaning. The first would be the opposite of the Justice Leage. The 2nd would be the injustice done by Lex making Clark believe that Oliver turned his back on him. This would make things very interesting. We could see Oliver vs. Lexiver---bow vs. gun. And I like that evil black & purple version of the Green Arrow costume.

Please let this happen.

Jon-El1984
03-31-2009, 12:28 PM
IT WOULD BE EPIC!!!!! LOL. But you're right, the title does kinda give you that 'Bizzaro' feel of the Justice League. Or even better, like a Smallville version of the Crisis Crime Syndicate of America from Earth-3 in the comics. Dude, now you got me all excited thinking your theory might actually happen. I'm going to be so bummed if it's not. Although, they might come up with something that niether one of us could of thought of, lol. I guess we'll have to wait and see!

xrayvision
03-31-2009, 01:38 PM
IT WOULD BE EPIC!!!!! LOL. But you're right, the title does kinda give you that 'Bizzaro' feel of the Justice League. Or even better, like a Smallville version of the Crisis Crime Syndicate of America from Earth-3 in the comics. Dude, now you got me all excited thinking your theory might actually happen. I'm going to be so bummed if it's not. Although, they might come up with something that niether one of us could of thought of, lol. I guess we'll have to wait and see!

One reason why I have been so disappointed over the past few seasons is because I get myself all hyped up at all the stuff that could happen only to get a lame plot ending. So I wouldn't get all excited if I were you.

wickedwango
04-19-2009, 07:26 AM
about the lex=oliver thing, I just don't see it happening lol, it's to weird and unreal IMO.
I think it was that last Oliver scene in Requiem that was really misleading.

I just think that Lex did actually die, yet he cloned himself and implanted his memories from up to season 7, so he won't know Clarks secret. simple

disciples of zod
04-19-2009, 08:16 AM
*shrugs* i really don't have an opinion. part of me wants to say let the dead stay dead, but it would be cool to have Lex back.

*sits on a fence*

~K

xrayvision
04-19-2009, 10:41 AM
Lex is definitely alive somewhere. I think he got out of the Arctic when Clark did. Odyssey took place a month after Arctic, and Regan was legitmately looking for Lex still after injecting Ollie with that serum and making him find out where Lex was. If Lex was still MIA, he would have been dead. So this tells me that Lex was up & about somewhere (maybe in Russia too). Eventually when Regan went MIA, Lex told him where he was and I believe he set up a clone of himself as the bait. The real Lex obviously wanted the suit Lana stole since he wanted to be evenly matched with Clark while being able to absorb kryptonite, which would give him the edge. But I have no doubt that Lex is alive. He's destined to live & be Superman's #1 enemy. I don't think they'd be stupid enough to kill Lex only to have his future existence be a judgment call for Oliver, which would completely kill any legitimacy of Smallville's Lex.

jpfort1957
09-06-2009, 09:34 AM
Lex still lives!!!! You can't bring him back to life if he never died.

DarkKal
09-06-2009, 09:53 AM
^^ Exactly. Lex never died, Clark escaped from the Arctic without a bruise on his face with NO powers, and why would Lex be horribly burned? It was just another clone..