Was I the only one?

[oldblackmagick]

Was I the only one that wanted Chloe to go off on Jimmy at the end. He is all like I'm sick of trying and it's just not worth it...you suck, goodbye! They are really trying to tear her down all over the place it seems but i wish for just a moment she could have been strong. I wish she would have told Jimmy that she doesn't even remember marrying him cause if she did she would never have gone through with it. Besides Jimmy was trying to get wit Kara all last year and then now she gets dumped...If they are planning on writing chloe out they should try to make her look bad instead of turning chimmy into the i hate chloe club:(

[DarkClone]

Jimmy was right. Chloe has trusted Davis and Clark time and time again over Jimmy. Put them before Jimmy on her priority list. She doesn't really trust him as much as she says she does. She never told him about the kiss w/ Davis. She hugged the man her husband accused of murder right outside his hospital room. Etc. Etc.

[krpto]

Sorry but if any wife would have acteed towards her husband like chloe acted towards jimmy it turbulance I'm positive the man would have used much stronger language then jimmy did so If anything chloe should have ask clark what he thought and clark should have sided with jimmy. You never go againt the person you claim to love especially when its about someone else whose said themselves that they could be a killer killing people.

[AndiGirl]

Honestly.....if my husband had just told me I was the biggest mistake of his life, I dont think I would even be able to stand. Let alone rip him a new one.

Now, if he comes to her...and says "I'm sorry about what I said, I want to make it work."She should punch the jerk in the face! Which....I can see happening in the not so distant future. You cant tell someone that being with them was the biggest mistake of your life, and ever expect things to be repaired. :\

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Sorry but if any wife would have acteed towards her husband like chloe acted towards jimmy it turbulance I'm positive the man would have used much stronger language then jimmy did so If anything chloe should have ask clark what he thought and clark should have sided with jimmy. You never go againt the person you claim to love especially when its about someone else whose said themselves that they could be a killer killing people.

You're right, she should have believed in Jimmy.
But I have to disagree about "never going against your spouse." IF my boyfriend had someone handcuffed and was about to hit the person in the head I wouldnt stand back and let him do it because he's my boyfriend.

I'm pretty sure that makes you an accomplise to murder. :\

[oldblackmagick]

I guess people see what they want to see. I saw this whole episode trying to make chloe doubt herself and Jimmy. And to be fair who would think someone would murder another in the hospital and then stash the body in his ambulance. Plus when she saw Jimmy actually hallucinating it confirmed her fears that Jimmy had snapped and to be honest that is how he acted. Like he had snapped. If he was really concerned about Davis he should have gone to the police or had an actual conversation with chloe. He was all like davis is bad....gotta get him. But the truth is that Jimmy put both his life and Chloe's in danger by going after him. This episode showed me that even though Chloe is surrounded by people she is trying to handle the situation on her own....not very well i will admit but she is trying. Doesn't wanna lay anything else on clark cause he has enough to worry about and Jimmy hates her. Who does she have to talk with besides Davis who is making extra time for her where no-one else is. I just felt so bad for chloe:( Thats what i saw throughout this whole ep!

[Var-Zol]

Well if dumbs*** Clark would put Doomsday in the Phantom Zone, none of this crap would be happening!

[SupermanRox]

I'm with AndiGirl on this one. Besides, it hasn't been that long since Jimmy married Chloe. When he married her he was ok with her relationship with Clark or at least he said that he was. What's changed between then and now? Does he think that their marriage is not worth fighting for and working out?

Anyone who is truly in love with their partner doesn't give up that easily. They stay and fight for the relationship to work. Jimmy just bailed first chance he got.

[oldblackmagick]

I'm with AndiGirl on this one. Besides, it hasn't been that long since Jimmy married Chloe. When he married her he was ok with her relationship with Clark or at least he said that he was. What's changed between then and now? Does he think that their marriage is not worth fighting for and working out?

Anyone who is truly in love with their partner doesn't give up that easily. They stay and fight for the relationship to work. Jimmy just bailed first chance he got.

pretty much...just like he bailed out on her in season 7 when she wouldn't tell him she was a meteor freak...so then he moved onto Kara...or more accurately Chloe noticed he was moving onto Kara and then gave him a reason (any would have done the trick) to break up with her and move on. The only ep I have ever liked Jimmy in was this season's identity. He was smart...funny...and appeared like he was ready to know the secret. Now I wouldn't tell him a spoiler...let alone a secret:(

[Dyanara]

I would have punched him in his wound just to piss him off. Jimmy was out of line and Chloe better not try to get back with him. Any guy who says crap like that to you doesn't deserve you. Maybe if it had been Lois she would have ripped him a new one.

[DarkClone]

I'm with AndiGirl on this one. Besides, it hasn't been that long since Jimmy married Chloe. When he married her he was ok with her relationship with Clark or at least he said that he was. What's changed between then and now? Does he think that their marriage is not worth fighting for and working out?

Anyone who is truly in love with their partner doesn't give up that easily. They stay and fight for the relationship to work. Jimmy just bailed first chance he got.


Chloe has never fought for Jimmy at all though. He is the one who has accepted her, and her changes, relationships with other people, etc. She has never done that for him at all, and has only chastised him when he didn't change for her right away.

And even now, he was in the hospital for 5 weeks and nearly died trying to defend his wife's life, and how does she honor her marriage vows? She believes Davis over Jimmy, even when Davis has admitted to her before that he thinks he might be a murderer.

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For all of her preaching to Clark about relationships for so long . . . when it comes to her own personal ones, she seems to make just as many mistakes. What goes around comes around I guess.

[krpto]

Honestly.....if my husband had just told me I was the biggest mistake of his life, I dont think I would even be able to stand. Let alone rip him a new one.

Now, if he comes to her...and says "I'm sorry about what I said, I want to make it work."She should punch the jerk in the face! Which....I can see happening in the not so distant future. You cant tell someone that being with them was the biggest mistake of your life, and ever expect things to be repaired. :\

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You're right, she should have believed in Jimmy.
But I have to disagree about "never going against your spouse." IF my boyfriend had someone handcuffed and was about to hit the person in the head I wouldnt stand back and let him do it because he's my boyfriend.

I'm pretty sure that makes you an accomplise to murder. :\

See I don't think jimmy would have actually killed davis even if chloe hadn't shown up when she did and he could have he could have. He was just keeping him bound or well trying to keep him bound so he could prove that davis was a murderer and that he wasn't crazy. Yes jimmy was somewhat crazy but that was because he had been drugged by davis who himself told chloe he could be a murderer. Sorry but chloe trusting davis in the episode was just like if someone trusted oj simpson over mother teresa not a good idea. Yes I know davis isn't oj and jimmy is far from mother teresa but hey best example to compare to that I could think of.

[oldblackmagick]

Chloe has never fought for Jimmy at all though. He is the one who has accepted her, and her changes, relationships with other people, etc. She has never done that for him at all, and has only chastised him when he didn't change for her right away.

And even now, he was in the hospital for 5 weeks and nearly died trying to defend his wife's life, and how does she honor her marriage vows? She believes Davis over Jimmy, even when Davis has admitted to her before that he thinks he might be a murderer.

ok but so she was supposed to let him knock Davis over the head with a lead pip....for ANY reason? Jimmy was not in his right mind and If being with Chloe is so hard he NEVER should have married her. And I'm sorry but husband/wife or not...people do get addicted to drugs and fu*k their lives up because of it....was chloe supposed to let that happen to Jimmy....her husband???

[DarkClone]

ok but so she was supposed to let him knock Davis over the head with a lead pip....for ANY reason? Jimmy was not in his right mind and If being with Chloe is so hard he NEVER should have married her. And I'm sorry but husband/wife or not...people do get addicted to drugs and fu*k their lives up because of it....was chloe supposed to let that happen to Jimmy....her husband???

I understand what Chloe did from her perspective, but that doesn't make it right. She thinks she was doing the right thing, but Jimmy knows, and soon Chloe will learn that she wasn't. And it isn't just about Chloe's actions in this episode, it is her actions over their entire relationship.

Understanding that your s/o has a close friend of the opposite gender is one thing, but when your s/o constantly puts that friend before you, it can wear down a relationship. Time and time again there has been suspicious stuff surrounding Davis, and Chloe looks the other way and believes him, no matter what he says, even when it goes against her husband.

[Dyanara]

That's the thing that is pissing me off. Jimmy was right but rather than explain to Chloe(w/o being drugged up) what he saw and how he came to these conclusions he just bails. Without Chloe having to worry about her high husband and prevent him for knocking people upside the head with a pipe, I think she could probably gotten started on that investigation so many people are complaining about.

[oldblackmagick]

See I don't think jimmy would have actually killed davis even if chloe hadn't shown up when she did and he could have he could have. He was just keeping him bound or well trying to keep him bound so he could prove that davis was a murderer and that he wasn't crazy. Yes jimmy was somewhat crazy but that was because he had been drugged by davis who himself told chloe he could be a murderer. Sorry but chloe trusting davis in the episode was just like if someone trusted oj simpson over mother teresa not a good idea. Yes I know davis isn't oj and jimmy is far from mother teresa but hey best example to compare to that I could think of.

Chloe was only going off what she knew. She knew that Jimmy was hallucinating (as seen when he was watching his vision of her getting killed by doomsday.) She knew that Jimmy was acting not like himself. She knew that Davis was trying to help (even though he wasn't helping he appeared to be helping from Chloe's POV)

Now the things she didn't know

She didn't know Davis was doomsday (or killing people in his regular Joe outfit)
She didn't know that Davis had drugged Jimmy.
She didn't know that Jimmy caught davis in mid prowl/kill.


So going off of these things what was she supposed to think/do with the info she had at her disposal...also...least we forget...Chloe has had alot going on inside her head (brainiac and all his memory snatching controlling things) So her guard is up and the only person she knows that hasn't left her to her own demise is Davis and as far as she knows he hasn't done anything wrong. And also Davis did say he thought he was a murderer but then we all found out (or so we thought) that the meteor freak kid was the one doing all the killings so as of then his name was cleared and Davis never said anything else that revealing/truthful again.

[luthorian]

I wish she would have told Jimmy that she doesn't even remember marrying him cause if she did she would never have gone through with it.

:lol: Chloe totally should have said this! It is the truth. I love it when people speak their mind on Smallville. Jimmy was right about what he said but Chloe could've easily said a lot worse to him...

[oldblackmagick]

:lol: Chloe totally should have said this! It is the truth. I love it when people speak their mind on Smallville. Jimmy was right about what he said but Chloe could've easily said a lot worse to him...

That's what I'm saying...have her fight back not just cry. Yeah it was sad and heartbreaking but no one should talk to you like that...especially if he supposedly loves you:(!

[Smallville Vamp]

Jimmy's my new HERO! nuff said

[Dyanara]

that's what i'm saying...have her fight back not just cry. Yeah it was sad and heartbreaking but no one should talk to you like that...especially if he supposedly loves you:(!

thank you!!!!!!!!!!

[oldblackmagick]

thank you!!!!!!!!!!

no problem;)

[skugers]

He was right to do what he did.

[oldblackmagick]

He was right to do what he did.

in what way was he right. He is addicted to pain killers and has taken to vigilante justice...how in any world (smallville or not) is that right?

[Night_Hawk90]

jimmy u have now inspired me to grow a pair. Jimmy=my hero

[JordanElliot]

As much as I support the flash photographer, Jimmy Olsen, I think he was unjust to Chloe. Yes, she has put Davis and Clark ahead of him, in the trust department that is, but still she went through with the marriage. She would not have done that if she wasn't in love with him. I truly think that he's going to end up needing to see a psychiatrist by the time this season ends, and of course it will probably be because Clark saves him from doing something incredibly stupid, like going after Davis. I am on Jimmy's side however when he spoke about Chloe not always trusting him. She doesn't, well hasn't, fully trust him. Who knows... The music at the end was amazing though, and I kind of felt that Clark should have been there to console her, but I suppose that was Smallville's way of saying Clark is becoming Superman, not just Clark Kent who is always there for his friends. IDK. Just thought it was kind of odd... and it would have been hilarious to see Jimmy get slapped by Chloe.

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In a shorter reply though, Jimmy is supposed to become a vigilante at some point in his life according to the "Whatever happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" story released in 1986... that is if Smallville really is planning on following that line.

[Iluvgreen]

Jimmy was absolutely right in what he said! Extrememly! That is what is so sad. I think that in the next episode I won't be so irritated at her. I love Chloe. She's one of my fav characters, but you just don't do that to your husband! And she does to remember getting married to Jimmy!!!!! She wanted to get married to him. She went through with it because she loves him. Did you not hear what she said to Davis? She is thinking that if Jimmy never met her, he would never had gotten hurt. That was the only thing in this episode where I thought Chloe was doing the right thing (well about her and Jimmy and Davis.) But she actually should've told that to Jimmy instead. She needed to trust Jimmy. And she didn't, and it is irritating! How would you feel if your own "wife" wouldn't believe you if you told her that you saw someone kill other person? It wouldn't feel very nice.

[Tebow15]

Jimmy was 100% correct in how he handled Chloe last night.

[Deana]

Jimmy was right in what he said but I don't think he would have said it if he was not under the influence.

[skugers]

in what way was he right. He is addicted to pain killers and has taken to vigilante justice...how in any world (smallville or not) is that right?
OK, I'll answer with this one:
Davis Bloome has a Beast inside him, he knows it, he takes antipsycotics to keep it under control (or at least he thinks so) and does the same vigilante crap work (he kills bad guys on the street to 'reduce' the murders number the Beast would commit if it was fully released) as you said about Jimmy.
How does that sound to you? Is it right?

As for Jimmy: If I was in his place, with the physical pain combined with the psycological one, I'd probably want to forget everything too and have at least some 2 hours sleep at night. So him using painkillers to deal with his hurting can be understood. And of course, Davis took care of that aspect too, he druged Jimmy in the ambulance, as if it wasn't enough that Jimmy pumped in his veins morphine on the hospital bed.

What vigilante means to you when you say that about Jimmy? All he did was to catch Davis in the act, snapp some shots and leave them on DP's editor's desk, so people can learn what danger the paramedic represents. He didn't kill anyone, that's for sure.

[Dyanara]

Ugh I am so sick of people constantly seeing things from Jimmy's pov but not taking into consideration that Chloe does not have all this information. Excuse blondie for not knowing Davis=Doomsday

[Night_Hawk90]

Ugh I am so sick of people constantly seeing things from Jimmy's pov but not taking into consideration that Chloe does not have all this information. Excuse blondie for not knowing Davis=Doomsday

i would excuse her if she had no clues infront of her, but she has had many and her attraction to davis has made her oblivious

[SGuthrie27]

I think that, while most of what Jimmy said to Chloe was true and necessary, he got way out of line when he brought up her relationship with Clark (which he seemed to come to terms with, finally), and then said that marrying her was the biggest mistake of his life. You simply do not do that to your wife of one month, who you've only really seen since your wedding day in intensive care units and other hospital rooms.

She made mistakes in this episode, no doubt about it, but again, from her perspective, much of what she did was perfectly understandable, except of course for not investigating Jimmy's claims more fully herself to get the full truth, and not just blindly trusted Davis's allegations, which ended up being pretty convincing considering Jimmy's drugged up state. She also shouldn't have hugged Davis right outside Jimmy's hospital room (bad taste, really!), but she was upset and a little overwhelmed, I think.

Yeah, I am sick of people trashing Chloe, though. She's far from perfect, but she still tries to do her best to be there for the people she cares about, and do the right thing, even when it's hard. It was just hard for her to be able to do much of the right thing in this episode when she didn't have all the facts and was stuck between her husband and her friend (even though she should have stuck alongside her husband more).

*sigh* I just hope they bring Chloe back to her full greatness soon and stop tearing her down. It'll be interesting to see her reaction to both Davis and Jimmy once she learns the truth about Doomsday (if she lives long enough to react much in the first place). :(

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[cygnusx1]

i dunno, i think if i saw a paramedic kill someone, get drugged to make me look crazy, see my wife hugging the killer paramedic i saw, give me the tazer treatment, take the paramedics side telling me i'm seeing things i would have had an epic meltdown too.

[marcella]

Jimmy was totally right

[Scribe]

I'm sorry, hearing the argument that her husband was on drugs, etc - that's not an excuse. Its a cop out. For years, I've been hearing on these boards what a great reporter she is, at the expense of the other reporter character on the show. Three times, she's been approached about the possibility that Davis is a killer. Yes, there might be excuses for those but THREE TIMES? When the arrow keeps pointing at the same direction consistently - there has to come a point where you ask yourself why is that?

As a journalist, she should have been the first to ask the question.

At the very least, Chloe should have investigated. All she did by her behaviour, was show Jimmy that it doesn't even take a long standing friendship for her to chose someone else over him, it can be virtually anyone she just met. Even if he was on drugs, she could have just checked it out, to give him the benefit of the doubt instead of dismissing it as some drug hazed illusion.

So no, I don't think Chloe has the right to go off at all because I think Jimmy let her off light.

[Alicia Chipy]

See I don't think jimmy would have actually killed davis even if chloe hadn't shown up when she did and he could have he could have. He was just keeping him bound or well trying to keep him bound so he could prove that davis was a murderer and that he wasn't crazy. Yes jimmy was somewhat crazy but that was because he had been drugged by davis who himself told chloe he could be a murderer. Sorry but chloe trusting davis in the episode was just like if someone trusted oj simpson over mother teresa not a good idea. Yes I know davis isn't oj and jimmy is far from mother teresa but hey best example to compare to that I could think of.

AS Mother Teresa might have said:"Amen to that brother!"

[wolverine316]

Jimmy is the man. Good for him for putting little Chloe in her place!!!!

[Scribe]

Actually one wonders if Clark would feel if he should tell Jimmy to save Chloe's marriage - rightly or not.

[Storm45]

Clark should be tired of always having to reconcile Jimmy and Chloe. He did that for the first breakup and lastly because of Jimmy's jealousy fithad over the letter Chloe wrote to Clark when she was 16.

[rehana/chole]

iagree with u chole chould have punch him i hate jimmy alway hav alway will he such a LOSEr A JEALIOUSFUL LOSER I MEAN HE STILL JEALIOUS ABT CLARK claRK get over us slef jimmy ur a moran chole better not go back 2 him i agree with alot of u on chole action 2 trust davis he not ready 2 bite off ur head cause ur not tell him wat he want2 now jimmy behave spoil like if she has 2 just b with him an hav no friend the one reson i like lois is cause she doesnt like jimmy an think he an idiot . jimmy isgoing down d drain

[celita]

I'm with AndiGirl on this one. Besides, it hasn't been that long since Jimmy married Chloe. When he married her he was ok with her relationship with Clark or at least he said that he was. What's changed between then and now? Does he think that their marriage is not worth fighting for and working out?

Anyone who is truly in love with their partner doesn't give up that easily. They stay and fight for the relationship to work. Jimmy just bailed first chance he got.


Five weeks in Star City with Lois as nurse while Chloe was in Smallville, that's what happened, besides she electrocuted him, come on, knowing that he's ill. What happened with "Jimmy stop!" it's "so last year" or something?

[Storm45]

Visited Jimbo (LEGION)

Talk sabout her going in Power.

[ginnyfan]

Actually one wonders if Clark would feel if he should tell Jimmy to save Chloe's marriage - rightly or not.

Clark did save their relationship in "Trespass."

*sigh*

I think Chloe truly loves Jimmy. Perhaps she... she DOES underestimate him. She has taken him for granted in the past.

Jimmy was right in everything he said except for the last. I know that he spoke out of anger and pain and... he felt betrayed by Chloe siding with the murderer over him. I think Chloe is confused and scared and worried for Jimmy. She's made a mistake trusting Davis. But... Davis' manipulation and even Brainiac in earlier episodes... has a lot to do with Chloe's blind spot in that area. She doesn't have any reason to think of Davis as a murderer and EVERY reason to think of him as a kind, caring if a little tortured EMS guy. Before the pre-marriage kiss, Chloe really wanted to be Davis' friend. So I don't think it's a cop out to say that the Jimmy's drugged up state combined with Chloe's past has a lot to do with her choices in the episode. Seeing how distraught Jimmy is a better course of action would have been to keep Davis far away from Jimmy, tell Jimmy she would investigate his claims and in the meantime convince him to rest.

I still think Jimmy's final words crossed the line. I don't think he's beyond forgiving, especially considering the state that he's in. But his words crossed the line IMO. The whole speech was perfect until the "marrying you is the biggest mistake" line. :(

[celita]

Visited Jimbo (LEGION)

Talk sabout her going in Power.

And then left him to go to Smallville to talk about Clark's love life because, you know, that's more important. My mom was in a hospital a few months ago and I didn't even go to the cinema for months. And I would be doing the same for my husband that got hurt protecting me.

[Storm45]

And then left him to go to Smallville to talk about Clark's love life because, you know, that's more important. My mom was in a hospital a few months ago and I didn't even go to the cinema for months. And I would be doing the same for my husband that got hurt protecting me.

There's real and there's Smallville. The writers writes about what convenient to them. Chloe has to be in 22 episodes no matter what.

It remind me of when Lois took lot of flack in season 5 for leaving Smallville and giong into Europe while never checking on Chloe on disapeared after the triple tornado.

I always thought it said more about the writing than the character. Its the same way I view Chloe in here.

Its not the first time the characters are written like this.

[celita]

Well I remember about Chloe in Descent not caring about her almost frozen and bleeding cousin.

Chloe could be shown talking with Clark by phone from "the hospital" (just film some corner of the studios), Clark could go to talk with her to star city since he has superspeed, yet they didn't do it. Last episode Jimmy was being traslated from Star City meanwhile Chloe and Lois where in Metropolis, so he did the travel alone and Chloe was going to leave Smallville and she show how sad she was because of losing Clark, but she didn't even talk about her ill husband. Even when Allison Mack directed power didn't care about that detail of her character, she cared about whom should save the day and change the script for that, but she didn't care about her character's husband at all.

I realize that there's real and fiction, but imagine for one moment that you're Jimmy and you're in Star City with Lois. Meanwhile your wife, that has no actual job, is in another city for some reason. Of course he doesn't know anything about Lana's suit and all that crap because he is not "in the know" so... the person he loves is not with him for not real reason, he just married the girl and she prefers to waste her time hanging with Clark, Lana and Ollie than being with him. Of course is the biggest mistake of his life.

[Poyntz]

I guess people see what they want to see. I saw this whole episode trying to make chloe doubt herself and Jimmy. And to be fair who would think someone would murder another in the hospital and then stash the body in his ambulance. Plus when she saw Jimmy actually hallucinating it confirmed her fears that Jimmy had snapped and to be honest that is how he acted. Like he had snapped. If he was really concerned about Davis he should have gone to the police or had an actual conversation with chloe. He was all like davis is bad....gotta get him. But the truth is that Jimmy put both his life and Chloe's in danger by going after him. This episode showed me that even though Chloe is surrounded by people she is trying to handle the situation on her own....not very well i will admit but she is trying. Doesn't wanna lay anything else on clark cause he has enough to worry about and Jimmy hates her. Who does she have to talk with besides Davis who is making extra time for her where no-one else is. I just felt so bad for chloe:( Thats what i saw throughout this whole ep!

Great post!

[disciples of zod]

Jimmy was right. Chloe has trusted Davis and Clark time and time again over Jimmy. Put them before Jimmy on her priority list. She doesn't really trust him as much as she says she does. She never told him about the kiss w/ Davis. She hugged the man her husband accused of murder right outside his hospital room. Etc. Etc.

YES YES YES YES!!!!! Could not agree more!

~H

[Storm45]

The writing is callous at best and the mention of characters who are not around are seen as simple details.

[VagrantDream]

I'm agreeing here. Jimmy was being the new Lana.

[Storm45]

Well I remember about Chloe in Descent not caring about her almost frozen and bleeding cousin.

Chloe could be shown talking with Clark by phone from "the hospital" (just film some corner of the studios), Clark could go to talk with her to star city since he has superspeed, yet they didn't do it. Last episode Jimmy was being traslated from Star City meanwhile Chloe and Lois where in Metropolis, so he did the travel alone and Chloe was going to leave Smallville and she show how sad she was because of losing Clark, but she didn't even talk about her ill husband. Even when Allison Mack directed power didn't care about that detail of her character, she cared about whom should save the day and change the script for that, but she didn't care about her character's husband at all.

I realize that there's real and fiction, but imagine for one moment that you're Jimmy and you're in Star City with Lois. Meanwhile your wife, that has no actual job, is in another city for some reason. Of course he doesn't know anything about Lana's suit and all that crap because he is not "in the know" so... the person he loves is not with him for not real reason, he just married the girl and she prefers to waste her time hanging with Clark, Lana and Ollie than being with him. Of course is the biggest mistake of his life.


The writing is callous at best and the mention of characters who are not around are seen as simple details. If I have to judge the characters depending on how that I'll end up seeing every one in this show as inhumans.

In Smallville Its out of sight, out of mind.

I got over it.

[Watching Smallville]

I think Chloe was stunned. I would have been. She must realize that what Jimmy is saying has truth in it. And yet, what else was she to do when Jimmy had been set up to look like he was drugged out? She probably doesn't even understand whether she messed up or not. She's too stunned and confused to answer.

Poor Chloe.

[Imzadi]

I think my biggest problem with Chloe was, after all Jimmy told her, she just knocked im out. She came there, saw the two of them together, and didn't even asked what was going on. It wasn't like he was going to kill Davis. I think Jimmy has every right to feel betrayed by her.

If it were Clark instead of Jimmy, should would have trusted him and would have ahndled the situiation in another way.

[Krypto_marcus]

Jimmy was right. Chloe has trusted everyone but him, like he said "First Clark and now Davis" Chloe got what she deserved.

[xrayvision]

Clark did save their relationship in "Trespass."

*sigh*

I think Chloe truly loves Jimmy. Perhaps she... she DOES underestimate him. She has taken him for granted in the past.

Jimmy was right in everything he said except for the last. I know that he spoke out of anger and pain and... he felt betrayed by Chloe siding with the murderer over him. I think Chloe is confused and scared and worried for Jimmy. She's made a mistake trusting Davis. But... Davis' manipulation and even Brainiac in earlier episodes... has a lot to do with Chloe's blind spot in that area. She doesn't have any reason to think of Davis as a murderer and EVERY reason to think of him as a kind, caring if a little tortured EMS guy. Before the pre-marriage kiss, Chloe really wanted to be Davis' friend. So I don't think it's a cop out to say that the Jimmy's drugged up state combined with Chloe's past has a lot to do with her choices in the episode. Seeing how distraught Jimmy is a better course of action would have been to keep Davis far away from Jimmy, tell Jimmy she would investigate his claims and in the meantime convince him to rest.

I still think Jimmy's final words crossed the line. I don't think he's beyond forgiving, especially considering the state that he's in. But his words crossed the line IMO. The whole speech was perfect until the "marrying you is the biggest mistake" line. :(

I don't really think Chloe has a blind spot. She knows that Clark & even Davis himself thought that Davis was a killer back in Prey. Even though that meteor freak kid confessed to it, they knew that the attacks continued, because it even happened at Chloe's own wedding. The wedding attack should have been a huge red flag for Chloe. It should have told her that maybe Clark (& Davis himself) were right about Davis. It seemed to be a big thing on Jimmy's mind. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Jimmy had nightmares every night about Doomsday crashing the wedding. I'm also not happy about Clark not continuing his investigation of Davis after the events of the wedding. I would much rather have seen this than that crapfest with Lana. It would have really jolted his career forward & shown he's serious about it.

I don't think Jimmy crossed the line because he was betrayed in a very dangerous way. He jumped in front of Chloe and was brutally attacked (almost killed) by Doomsday and spent weeks recovering in a hospital and was tended to by Lois instead of his own wife. Then when he's transferred back to Metropolis, he sees Davis murder someone and Chloe believes Davis over him, her own husband. Davis drugs him, and he goes out to prove himself right and confirms it, only to be tasered by Chloe. So in his POV, he was rendered helpless, by his own wife, in very close proximity to the very person whom he just proved for a 2nd time killed someone. If I was Jimmy, I would think that Chloe was trying to get rid of me so she could be with Davis. Or that Chloe's relationship with Davis was so improper that she was jeopardizing both her own & Jimmy's lives. After what he's been through and the scarce attention & respect his wife was paying to him, I can't condemn him for saying that. I may not have used the same words ("I can't believe I was stupid enough to marry you" may have been better), but if I were him, I would be super ticked.

This Chloe-Davis relationship seems too much like Lexana to me. Just like Lana should have known better & done her homework before jumping into a relationship with Lex, I think Chloe should have done her homework before choosing to allow Davis back into her life, which I thought didn't happen after watching how the timeline was changed in Infamous, but it somehow did.

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I think my biggest problem with Chloe was, after all Jimmy told her, she just knocked im out. She came there, saw the two of them together, and didn't even asked what was going on. It wasn't like he was going to kill Davis. I think Jimmy has every right to feel betrayed by her.

If it were Clark instead of Jimmy, should would have trusted him and would have ahndled the situiation in another way.

If Chloe knew who Davis really was & tasered Jimmy because she wanted to protect him, I would have felt bad for her. But this wasn't the case. She did probably prevent both her & Jimmy from being Doomsday bait, but her motives were all wrong. She really betrayed Jimmy and prolonged Davis' deception of who he is without knowing it.

[-Nora-]

IMO, the issue is a lot bigger than just Chloe believing other people over her husband. Chloe's had feelings for Davis the second she met him, meaning she's had an emotional affair all season long. And the way she acted in Turbulence absolutely proved that IMO. Obviously you can't choose who you fall in love with, but at least do the decent thing and don't marry one guy when you also have feelings for another.

I'm trying to understand Chloe's side, but I honestly can't.

[Imzadi]

[...]
If Chloe knew who Davis really was & tasered Jimmy because she wanted to protect him, I would have felt bad for her. But this wasn't the case. She did probably prevent both her & Jimmy from being Doomsday bait, but her motives were all wrong. She really betrayed Jimmy and prolonged Davis' deception of who he is without knowing it.

You are absolutley right. We have no reason to believe, tjat she knows about Dommsday. Last episode she learned the truth, but those events never happened. So she still believes that Davis is human.

[Tompouce]

I appreciate Jimmy in this episode except for what he said to Chloe. He is just married for what ? 1 month ? Is that the way you share a bond with someone ? "roblems and "okay, I am done" ? That is nonsense. Chloe is supposed to be the love of his life. They have to fight together and make their love work. You can't say a week "I love you, marry me" and last week "you are the biggest mistake in my life". This is just stupid, childish, we are not at school anymore....

[Imzadi]

Sure, but "fight together and make their love work" has to come from both sides. So far I've only seen Jimmy doing all the work.

[xrayvision]

I appreciate Jimmy in this episode except for what he said to Chloe. He is just married for what ? 1 month ? Is that the way you share a bond with someone ? "roblems and "okay, I am done" ? That is nonsense. Chloe is supposed to be the love of his life. They have to fight together and make their love work. You can't say a week "I love you, marry me" and last week "you are the biggest mistake in my life". This is just stupid, childish, we are not at school anymore....

I honestly think that he felt that she put him in mortal danger. If someone renders their husband/wife helpless in front of a person who their husband/wife witnessed kill another person, what would they think? If someone did that to me, I'd think that they & the killer want me dead. Normally if I was Jimmy, I'd give Chloe the benefit of the doubt if it were some other issue. But after what happened to Jimmy, he would have to be stupid to stay and give Davis another chance at killing him because he knows he is powerless at stopping Chloe from being with Davis.

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Sure, but "fight together and make their love work" has to come from both sides. So far I've only seen Jimmy doing all the work.

Exactly. He was almost killed twice by Davis (once in his Doomsday form & now by his Davis form). And from the file Jimmy left on Tess' desk & his nightmares, I have no doubt that Jimmy put 1 & 1 together & knows that Davis is Doomsday (or in Jimmy's POV, the creature that attacked him at his wedding).

[Tompouce]

No, Chloe is wrong for Davis but she just can't know Jimmy is right. She saw him make a hysterical crisis, she really thinks he needs help to go better. The only thing she is not right, is not to try to see in another way. She really, strongly thinks she has to take care of Jimmy to make him better. She believes what she sees. Remember that scene with everybody around him when he was shouting "chloe is dead, ..."Can you imagine how she can feel upset ? Jimmy sees her actions like a betrayal (I have to admit the taser was very extreme) but it is not. She is lost. Seeing people you love in this state is hard. You can't make straight away the difference with what is wrong or right. This happened too fast.
She is here for him, I am sure of that. She said to Davis (I still wonder why all these scenes are not with Clark, it is just ridiculous) she had fears for Jimmy, she feels guilty. This is not love ? Yes, it is.
She is not completely "clean" but she is not that bad. Jimmy was cruel with her. A couple speaks when they have problems. The thing is Jimmy and Chloe didn't speak...

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Xrayvision : I don't say he has to trust Davis, I just say he has to tell Chloe how he really feels, he has to try to let her understand what is really going on with Davis. There, if she doesn't want to listen to him, okay he can be angry but not in this way...And what about Chloe in Davis's arms ? They were not kissing or something. Come on ! You can hug someone just to comfort him (this is the way Chloe thinks), Chloe needed to be reassured, okay Davis had other ideas but well...If my husband will hug a girl I know, I would try to understand what happened to her before thinking this is a betrayal...

[costas22]

She is here for him, I am sure of that. She said to Davis (I still wonder why all these scenes are not with Clark, it is just ridiculous) she had fears for Jimmy, she feels guilty. This is not love ? Yes, it is.
She is not completely "clean" but she is not that bad. Jimmy was cruel with her. A couple speaks when they have problems. The thing is Jimmy and Chloe didn't speak... <!-- / message -->

I think that PS3 are doing this on purpose.They want Chloe to get closer to Davis and move away from Clark.In the scenes with Clark it looked like she was lying because she was ahsamed.Why would she feel like that with Clark?Her best friend.As far as the talking,Jimmy did talk a lot but she didn't believe him.That was his problem.

[Tompouce]

Yes but she is shocked too by events, I think. Her wedding and after Jimmy in this state...Of course, I am like you : it is done on purpose to make her closer to Davis but to me, it is not very well done. She could easily say to Clark "I feel guilty for what happened to Jimmy". For once, it would someone else than Clark who could say "this is my fault" lol

[costas22]

They can't do that!Clark has to be the only one with guilt!To be honest,i was against Chloe and Jimmy as a couple from the start.Just like Davis,Jimmy was also put between Clark and Chloe at a time when they had been as close as ever.I don't think they have ever been as close as they were in Season 5.But that's all the writers' prerogative,nothing much we can do.

[xrayvision]

No, Chloe is wrong for Davis but she just can't know Jimmy is right. She saw him make a hysterical crisis, she really thinks he needs help to go better. The only thing she is not right, is not to try to see in another way. She really, strongly thinks she has to take care of Jimmy to make him better. She believes what she sees. Remember that scene with everybody around him when he was shouting "chloe is dead, ..."Can you imagine how she can feel upset ? Jimmy sees her actions like a betrayal (I have to admit the taser was very extreme) but it is not. She is lost. Seeing people you love in this state is hard. You can't make straight away the difference with what is wrong or right. This happened too fast.
She is here for him, I am sure of that. She said to Davis (I still wonder why all these scenes are not with Clark, it is just ridiculous) she had fears for Jimmy, she feels guilty. This is not love ? Yes, it is.
She is not completely "clean" but she is not that bad. Jimmy was cruel with her. A couple speaks when they have problems. The thing is Jimmy and Chloe didn't speak...

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Xrayvision : I don't say he has to trust Davis, I just say he has to tell Chloe how he really feels, he has to try to let her understand what is really going on with Davis. There, if she doesn't want to listen to him, okay he can be angry but not in this way...And what about Chloe in Davis's arms ? They were not kissing or something. Come on ! You can hug someone just to comfort him (this is the way Chloe thinks), Chloe needed to be reassured, okay Davis had other ideas but well...If my husband will hug a girl I know, I would try to understand what happened to her before thinking this is a betrayal...

Chloe didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. Like I said, Clark gave Chloe the benefit of the doubt in Tomb, when he could have thought she was delirious just like Chloe thought of Jimmy in this episode. But Clark didn't do that, and Clark wasn't even married to her. Meanwhile, she is married to Jimmy and never took the time to ask him. She just assumed he's crazy. She didn't even consider the fact that the accused killer, Davis, works in the same hospital that her own husband, who saw him kill a man with his very eyes, was staying at. She didn't even think of the consequences of what could have happened to Jimmy if he was right, which the audience knows is true. So in Jimmy's POV, she took the word of a killer who drugged him and left him so he could come back and finish the job and then rendered him helpless again to give Davis another shot at silencing him. Jimmy feels like he needs to be at an undisclosed location now because he doesn't want Davis to have a 3rd opportunity to kill him. That's why he also quit his job.

[unfocused]

Jimmy had every right to completely humiliate Chloe that way. Chloe deserved every word of it. I like how she just stood there and took it. Hey, when you're wrong, you have no place to talk. I think Chloe knows this.

[chlo-el]

I hate the way Jimmy did it. And how it caused Chloe just to cry like that. but it needed to be said. It's like pulling off a bandaid it hurts at first but you got to do it. I think the reason why Chloe didn't fight was because deep down she knew he was right. Jimmy was never first in her heart. Maybe she thought that would change if she married him but it just got worse.

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Yes but she is shocked too by events, I think. Her wedding and after Jimmy in this state...Of course, I am like you : it is done on purpose to make her closer to Davis but to me, it is not very well done. She could easily say to Clark "I feel guilty for what happened to Jimmy". For once, it would someone else than Clark who could say "this is my fault" lol

In this ep it made it clear she couldn't talk to anyone else how she truely felt other then Davis. I think it has been well done. Because even though Clark and Chloe are close this season Chloe has isolated herself more and when ever Clark asks if she's ok, she puts on a fake smile and pretends everything is ok. She doesn't want Clark to worry about her, in her mind Clark has more important things to worry about.

And also in this ep, I think Chloe doesn't want to admit she made a mistake and that she has been in denial this whole time. She espeacilly doesn't want to say that to the guy that did so much to make sure who wedding went smoothly. Chloe convinced her self, Clark, and Lois that being with Jimmy is what she wanted. I think it would be hard for her to admit that she was wrong.

[topping82]

Was I the only one that wanted Chloe to go off on Jimmy at the end. He is all like I'm sick of trying and it's just not worth it...you suck, goodbye! They are really trying to tear her down all over the place it seems but i wish for just a moment she could have been strong. I wish she would have told Jimmy that she doesn't even remember marrying him cause if she did she would never have gone through with it. Besides Jimmy was trying to get wit Kara all last year and then now she gets dumped...If they are planning on writing chloe out they should try to make her look bad instead of turning chimmy into the i hate chloe club:(

I think Chloe has been lying to herself for so long that she doesn't even know what she wants anymore. Jimmy yelling at her the way he did will lead over into next week's episode where she'll have an epiphany. . I think it will be a wake up call of sorts. She was so shocked that I think it would have been unnatural for her to yell at Jimmy there. Though I wouldn't rule that out yet, once her anger sets in.

For sure, both Chloe and Jimmy are to blame for the demise of the marriage. She should have never agreed to marry him in the first place. Though, it's unclear how much of the marriage she actually remembers. And she certainly looks trapped when Jimmy mentioned them being together "forever." Talk about a bird in a cage.

A lot of what Jimmy said is true. Though, he didn't mention any of his own faults. They've both been lying to themselves. But the truth of the matter is they just don't work. They lead separate lives, and it's true she trusts Clark and Davis more than Jimmy. Anyone can see that. Those are the two guys Chloe has felt "easy" with. She never felt that with Jimmy and he knows it.

Though, I can't really blame Chloe for not trusting Jimmy completely. Jimmy has a bit of a wandering eye, major insecurity issues, and he even thought Chloe was a terrorist. But these are Jimmy's flaws. All of the characters have them. I just think the two of them don't go well together. Both Chloe and Jimmy are flawed, but are great characters who just aren't meant to be. They have no connection, and with no connection it's not going to work.

I think it would have been nice to see Chloe yell back, but I think it wouldn't have made sense for her character at that moment. Chloe usually doesn't speak up about relationships. She withdraws. She keeps her feelings to herself. So, it's not surprising that she didn't fight back. Though maybe she agreed with a lot of what Jimmy was saying. Deep down, she knows their marriage IS a mistake. She just has a hard time letting go of anything. It's always been one of Chloe's weaknesses, which is part of what makes her interesting.

Well anyway, I totally understand your frustration, and it's not fun to see Chloe get kicked all the time. But I think we're going to start seeing feisty Chloe return now that the Chimmy relationship isn't holding her back.

Maybe she'll be able to be herself again, instead of always putting on an act.

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I hate the way Jimmy did it. And how it caused Chloe just to cry like that. but it needed to be said. It's like pulling off a bandaid it hurts at first but you got to do it. I think the reason why Chloe didn't fight was because deep down she knew he was right. Jimmy was never first in her heart. Maybe she thought that would change if she married him but it just got worse.

I completely agree! Some people really believe that marriage works out all of your problems. But if they were there before you get married, they're going to be there after.

In this ep it made it clear she couldn't talk to anyone else how she truely felt other then Davis. I think it has been well done. Because even though Clark and Chloe are close this season Chloe has isolated herself more and when ever Clark asks if she's ok, she puts on a fake smile and pretends everything is ok. She doesn't want Clark to worry about her, in her mind Clark has more important things to worry about.

I loved how Davis said, "you can talk to me." And then Chloe just nods simply, because it's instinctual and natural for her to be able to open up to Davis. She then starts to cry. She couldn't fake as much with him as she could with everyone else. Her feelings just started to pour out. I think we're going to see more and more of why they are so connected. And I like it!

I agree that Chloe has been isolating herself more and more from everyone. She hasn't been very open with Clark this year, which is why I think she'll be turning a little more to Davis. I think the writers have been kicking Chloe and isolating her on purpose so that her character will be able to find herself. The way she's been acting makes perfect sense in my opinion for someone with her personality.


And also in this ep, I think Chloe doesn't want to admit she made a mistake and that she has been in denial this whole time. She espeacilly doesn't want to say that to the guy that did so much to make sure who wedding went smoothly. Chloe convinced her self, Clark, and Lois that being with Jimmy is what she wanted. I think it would be hard for her to admit that she was wrong.

Again, I completely agree.

[Tatiana]

Jimmy was right, she should have investigated what he was saying, when Clark told her about Davis, she got mad yes but she at least gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought about it, with Jimmy she just thought he was crazy. I can understand she might have thought he was drugged up and everything but she defended Davis like crazy, she obviously has feelings for him

[topping82]

Jimmy was right, she should have investigated what he was saying, when Clark told her about Davis, she got mad yes but she at least gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought about it, with Jimmy she just thought he was crazy. I can understand she might have thought he was drugged up and everything but she defended Davis like crazy, she obviously has feelings for him

I think then that Clark should have investigated what Chloe was saying about Tess in the episode. Both Clark and Chloe trust people and give them the benefit of the doubt. I think Chloe's speech to Clark at the end was meant to parallel the speech Clark gave Chloe at the end of Prey.

If Clark can overlook Tess trying to kill Lana, then why can't Chloe overlook rumors with no evidence of Davis being a killer?

She listened to Clark in my opinion because she's so connected to him. And now, she has a similar connection with Davis. She definitely has feelings for him, I agree.

She just can't connect with Jimmy, and I agree that's part of the reason she's not investigating. He was right that he's second to Clark and now Davis.

She just needs to wake up and realize it herself.

Though, Jimmy's no saint. He did lie to Chloe too. Davis wasn't going after him at the end, and Jimmy wasn't defending himself. Jimmy went after Davis purposely and then chained him to a fence. He made sure to leave that part out.

I can understand everyone's perspectives in this episode.

[Tatiana]

I don't think it is the same thing though because Clark didn't trust Tess completely, he just thinks she might be different than Clark, just as he gave that chance to Lex being different from his father. Chloe on the other hand is not trusting her husband, she is not even investigating what the man she married is saying. I am married and I know I would always take my husband's word first. Chloe doesn't even know Davis for that long, she has known Clark for years and Jimmy as well. Clark also saw Tess intentions in the episode Power, and to me that actually says he isn't so blind of Lana's true intentions with that suit as well.

[chlo-el]

I think then that Clark should have investigated what Chloe was saying about Tess in the episode. Both Clark and Chloe trust people and give them the benefit of the doubt. I think Chloe's speech to Clark at the end was meant to parallel the speech Clark gave Chloe at the end of Prey.

If Clark can overlook Tess trying to kill Lana, then why can't Chloe overlook rumors with no evidence of Davis being a killer?

She listened to Clark in my opinion because she's so connected to him. And now, she has a similar connection with Davis. She definitely has feelings for him, I agree.

She just can't connect with Jimmy, and I agree that's part of the reason she's not investigating. He was right that he's second to Clark and now Davis.

She just needs to wake up and realize it herself.

Though, Jimmy's no saint. He did lie to Chloe too. Davis wasn't going after him at the end, and Jimmy wasn't defending himself. Jimmy went after Davis purposely and then chained him to a fence. He made sure to leave that part out.

I can understand everyone's perspectives in this episode.

I saw the parellel's between Tess trusting Clark and Chloe trusting Davis too. And I think Chloe did too. It was like a reverse of their discussion in "Prey". I think as soon as Chloe said that about Clark trusting Tess too much she paused and stared like she was talking to herself too, worried if she was doing the same thing that Clark was doing.

I could o see all characters perspectives in this ep. The last montage did a really good job of showing all of he characters pain.

[topping82]

I don't think it is the same thing though because Clark didn't trust Tess completely, he just thinks she might be different than Clark, just as he gave that chance to Lex being different from his father. Chloe on the other hand is not trusting her husband, she is not even investigating what the man she married is saying. I am married and I know I would always take my husband's word first. Chloe doesn't even know Davis for that long, she has known Clark for years and Jimmy as well. Clark also saw Tess intentions in the episode Power, and to me that actually says he isn't so blind of Lana's true intentions with that suit as well.

I think it is the same thing. He's trusting the word of Tess over his best friend who he's known for years. It's a double standard.

Though, I think Chloe doesn't trust her husband completely because she really isn't in love with him and it's clear that while Chloe and Davis haven't known each other as long, there is a deep connection there that she can't really deny. Plus she has seen Davis help people and she feels she knows his true intentions. She knows he longs to be good. And she doesn't completely trust Jimmy, and for good reasons. Just like he can't completely trust Chloe with good reason.

Chloe should have never married Jimmy, though I'm not even convinced she does remember marrying him. She said that she remembered everything up until "here comes the bride." Telling me, that she might not actually remember saying "I Do." Not to mention that even if she did get married, Brainiac was inside of her (this is why her memories returned after Brainiac was taken out; Jor-El did not heal her) and she only had partial memories after suffering major brain trauma.

Their marriage was a sham. Never meant to be and Jimmy knows it. Deep down Chloe knows it too, hence why she looked so trapped when he said "forever."

I agree, people should trust their husband, but only if the trust is deserved. Chloe and Jimmy have never proven that they can trust each other. He was quick to believe she was a terrorist.

Well anyway, I don't blame Chloe for believing Davis.

[Tatiana]

Oh ya I agree she shouldn't have married Jimmy for sure, it is obvious she doesn't love him like a wife should love a husband. I just think the Clark situation isn't the same cuz it didn't seem to me he was completely not taking Chloe's word about Tess, but hey I guess we all get different views. What it is for sure, is that Jimmy was right about marrying Chloe was the biggest mistake, maybe it wasn't the best way to say that in front of everyone but the guy is just getting out of a trauma and he felt no support from his wife and he knows Davis is bad. I felt for both of them to be quite honest, as much as I was sad for Clark and Lois in Infamous.

[unfocused]

No one deserves to be publicly humiliated. Sorry.

Public humiliation is nothing compared to what Chloe did to Jimmy. So, yes, Chloe deserved all the stares and gawking.

[unfocused]

I don't think it is the same thing though because Clark didn't trust Tess completely, he just thinks she might be different than Clark, just as he gave that chance to Lex being different from his father. Chloe on the other hand is not trusting her husband, she is not even investigating what the man she married is saying. I am married and I know I would always take my husband's word first. Chloe doesn't even know Davis for that long, she has known Clark for years and Jimmy as well.

You're totally right. You give your husband or wife the benefit of the doubt, especially since Jimmy was accusing an accused murderer of murder...

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Not even worth a response.

I know. There is no response. Chloe is a bad wife, she deserves more than just public humiliation, which I am very happy she got.

[oldblackmagick]

Everyone has a right to their opinion but there is no need to be antagonistic towards other posters in general.

[topping82]

I saw the parellel's between Tess trusting Clark and Chloe trusting Davis too. And I think Chloe did too. It was like a reverse of their discussion in "Prey". I think as soon as Chloe said that about Clark trusting Tess too much she paused and stared like she was talking to herself too, worried if she was doing the same thing that Clark was doing.

I could o see all characters perspectives in this ep. The last montage did a really good job of showing all of he characters pain.

Yeah, I definitely agree with everything you say! There were some definite parallels. I loved the last montage. It really captured everyone's numbness inside.

[FlashInSV]

This marriage has been so messed up from the very beginning. They are beyond counselling help.

[terri7015]

I'm sorry. I guess Jimmy's ok, but at the end of this episode I was like well good ridance. And I was like Chloe, girl, don't cry he's a jerk. lol But I like Jimmy again. I mean I can understand how much stress he must be in. :)

[Tompouce]

Originally Posted by topping82 http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4640839#post4640839)
No one deserves to be publicly humiliated. Sorry.

ITA. There is nothing worse than kick up a fuss in public. If there is something I can NOT forgive to someone it is this. It is just so inappropriate, childish and totaly disrepectuf

[Scribe]

No less than Jimmy looking similarly humiliated in front of hospital staff when his wife wouldn't back him up. Look those of us who are married will understand, even if your husband/wife is being a total jackass, you back them up (to a degree at least). Chloe isn't blind to the suspicion about Davis. If this was the first time she was confronted with it, fair enough but its been three times and once again, she's taking sides against her husband with someone she's known for a few months. This isn't even Clark.

Sorry, I think Chloe had it coming this time.

[Tompouce]

The thing is it is the first time I see AM who plays in such a weird way. I mean I really don't know what to think about her performance. To me, she was not really in her role.
I don't want to say Chloe is perfect but we forget she had shocks too. It is not just about Jimmy. She lived something very horrible with their wedding. She is a kind of survivor. It is not because she is not injured that she is not fragile psychologically So when she saw Jimmy like this, she was terror striken. She was paralized with fear. Sometimes, you have weird behavior when things go wrong.
Nobody asks her if she feels good. I mean when your husband or wife is at hospital, it is great hardships, no one seems to care for her. It is normal that at a moment, she wants to be protected, reassured...Okay, she choosed Davis and he was just waiting for a moment like this one but don't forget, he did all he can to make Chloe felt this way. He gave Jimmy drugs,...Davis is guilty, he made a kind of conspiracy. He took advantage of the situation.
Chloe and Jimmy need to be helped, not just one of them

[costas22]

They both need help,but the way it was shown last night,clearly Chloe was at fault.The taser scene was bad enough but did she really have to go comfort Davis after Jimmy accused him?And did she have to do it outside of Jimmy's room and then hug Davis?

[AndiGirl]

Clark did save their relationship in "Trespass."

*sigh*

I think Chloe truly loves Jimmy. Perhaps she... she DOES underestimate him. She has taken him for granted in the past.

Jimmy was right in everything he said except for the last. I know that he spoke out of anger and pain and... he felt betrayed by Chloe siding with the murderer over him. I think Chloe is confused and scared and worried for Jimmy. She's made a mistake trusting Davis. But... Davis' manipulation and even Brainiac in earlier episodes... has a lot to do with Chloe's blind spot in that area. She doesn't have any reason to think of Davis as a murderer and EVERY reason to think of him as a kind, caring if a little tortured EMS guy. Before the pre-marriage kiss, Chloe really wanted to be Davis' friend. So I don't think it's a cop out to say that the Jimmy's drugged up state combined with Chloe's past has a lot to do with her choices in the episode. Seeing how distraught Jimmy is a better course of action would have been to keep Davis far away from Jimmy, tell Jimmy she would investigate his claims and in the meantime convince him to rest.

I still think Jimmy's final words crossed the line. I don't think he's beyond forgiving, especially considering the state that he's in. But his words crossed the line IMO. The whole speech was perfect until the "marrying you is the biggest mistake" line. :(

ITA! :)

I think he was completely justified saying most of the things that he did. But that last line.....he might as well have ripped out her heart. :(

I dont know how to explain why that line is so hurtful...in a way, it's saying more about who chloe is then their marriage. He wasnt just saying that maybe they made a joint mistake entering their marriage. He's saying "marrying YOU was the biggest mistake of my life." It's the same as saying "I wish I had married someone else....or anyone else but you."

We all know Chloe already has some selfworth issues.....so this, ugh....it just broke my heart for her. I wouldnt wish those words spoken to any woman in the world, and Chloe is already so unsure of herself.....

Like I said, speaking as a woman.....It crushed me, and I wasnt even on the receiving end! :(

The really sad thing.....that can never be unseen. Chimmy is dead for good. :\

[unfocused]

No less than Jimmy looking similarly humiliated in front of hospital staff when his wife wouldn't back him up. Look those of us who are married will understand, even if your husband/wife is being a total jackass, you back them up (to a degree at least). Chloe isn't blind to the suspicion about Davis. If this was the first time she was confronted with it, fair enough but its been three times and once again, she's taking sides against her husband with someone she's known for a few months. This isn't even Clark.

Sorry, I think Chloe had it coming this time.
You make great points.

They both need help,but the way it was shown last night,clearly Chloe was at fault.The taser scene was bad enough but did she really have to go comfort Davis after Jimmy accused him?And did she have to do it outside of Jimmy's room and then hug Davis?

Yeah, that scene was the straw. Had Chloe tazered Jimmy and then NOT go comfort Davis, I probably wouldn't like that Chloe got her annual verbal beatdown. But she actually went to make sure a conscious, active Davis was alright, instead of taking Jimmy directly back to the hospital to make sure he isn't dying or in another coma.

She cared more about Davis than Jimmy in that scene, that much is obvious.

[duggernot]

Jimmy was way oout of line busting hospital property and acting like he owned the place. But as as for him acting the way he did with Chloe. I am just glad it was a pg show because I think without that rating, he would have dropped a few f bombs and using a rhyme with itch in regards to chloe.

I like how he hit the road at the end as he doesn't need a wife who hits him with a crow bar and secretely has the hots for another dude. Go team Jimmy!!!!
But seriously layoff destroying hopsital property because tax payers get stuck with the bill!

[Sports72Xtrm]

Chloe had it coming. Everything Jimmy said was right. Chloe is just a crumby spouse. Maybe they'll have better luck in their next relationships.

[haydenclaireheroes]

Was I the only one that wanted Chloe to go off on Jimmy at the end. He is all like I'm sick of trying and it's just not worth it...you suck, goodbye! They are really trying to tear her down all over the place it seems but i wish for just a moment she could have been strong. I wish she would have told Jimmy that she doesn't even remember marrying him cause if she did she would never have gone through with it. Besides Jimmy was trying to get with Kara all last year and then now she gets dumped...If they are planning on writing chloe out they should try to make her look bad instead of turning chimmy into the i hate chloe club:(

Ok you are so right because the whole last season chloe built her self up with her meteor power. She became strong and even the start of the season she had braniacs power she had a power and it made her strong. I miss that. lets have an episode were it is based on chloe being strong. Because after the braniac story line she had been shoved into the mud. She has been kicked down and it will take her a long time to get up. Like every female in this show has a special thing. Lois was the army brat who is great in combat. lana has the whole super strength thing going for her. tess has the whole lieing thing and being sneeky. Chloe use to have to heal. The only good thing is i see in a future episode she is going to be watchtower again. I am happy she is a justice leauge memeber. I hope chloe is going to get a power again. If they do anything just give her a power. The meteor freak thing was a great story. Make chloe get up from the dirt and make no man shove her back in. Or if they do make her save the day.

[Sweetie]

Jimmy was right to say what he did.I guess he just had it about being the second best for Chloe.First Clark now it's Davis.I really hated to see that chloe doesn't trust her own husband but,she is ready to put her faith in a complet stranger.This marriage is doomed :cool:

[smallvillereporter27]

I think he was completely justified saying most of the things that he did. But that last line.....he might as well have ripped out her heart. :(

I dont know how to explain why that line is so hurtful...in a way, it's saying more about who chloe is then their marriage. He wasnt just saying that maybe they made a joint mistake entering their marriage. He's saying "marrying YOU was the biggest mistake of my life." It's the same as saying "I wish I had married someone else....or anyone else but you."

We all know Chloe already has some selfworth issues.....so this, ugh....it just broke my heart for her. I wouldnt wish those words spoken to any woman in the world, and Chloe is already so unsure of herself.....

Like I said, speaking as a woman.....It crushed me, and I wasnt even on the receiving end! :(

The really sad thing.....that can never be unseen. Chimmy is dead for good. :\

Thank you! I'm glad some people are seeing this.

Think back to the conversation with Davis and Chloe in the hallway. Chloe feels really guilty about what's happening to Jimmy. She even believes that if she hadn't met Jimmy he'd be better off. That makes Jimmy's last line even more painful.

We all know Chloe made some mistakes in this episode. She jumped to conclusions and believed all the lies, and that's normally something she doesn't do. She usually does some investigating and will give the people she cares about the benefit of the doubt. Davis set it up very well though. He convinced the police and the hospital attendents that Jimmy had too many drugs. Chloe was at first skeptical, but she knew Jimmy was desperate because of the scene before. The next time she sees Jimmy he's going crazy in the hall. I think its obvious what conclusions she drew. Should she have tasered Jimmy? No. Should she have looked more into his story? Probably. But through all of her mistakes she made tonight she still cares a great deal about Jimmy. That's what made Jimmy's last line, IMO, somewhat unjustified and a slight overreaction. :(

I think a lot of people are being a little harsh on Chloe. Just my opinion, though. :\

[unfocused]

Jimmy was right to say what he did.I guess he just had it about being the second best for Chloe.First Clark now it's Davis.I really hated to see that chloe doesn't trust her own husband but,she is ready to put her faith in a complet stranger.This marriage is doomed :cool:

And that's all there basically is to this. Jimmy isn't even second best to Chloe, he's now third, just behind an accused murderer that she has known for only as long as she has been engaged to Jimmy.

[msleggie]

Jimmy was right about what he said but he should have said it differently. I know he was upset but you don't treat people like that especially if you love them. That's why Chloe should have listened to what he said b/c she does take everyone else's side over her husbands

[Minela]

I'm on Jimmy's side here. Chloe was completely in the wrong with the way she treated him in this episode. Davis is not her husband, he isn't even her best friend like Clark, she shouldn't have run to him for support, especially after Jimmy's accusations.

If Chloe had put Jimmy, her husband, above somebody/anybody before this episode, I would have maybe thought that Jimmy was overreacting but he was right, she always puts everybody else above him.

She knew damn well when she accepted that proposal that she wouldn't be able to be completely honest with Jimmy about her life and that's wrong. When you promise to spend the rest of your life with somebody, it is your moral obligation to tell that person what they are getting into.

Jimmy doesn't even know half of what she is hiding. Her entire life is completely hidden from him. Okay, so he knows about Isis and the meteor kids she tries to help, but he knows nothing about the JLA, about Watchtower and especially about Clark. Those things are a big, big chunk of Chloe's life and she wasn't going to spill the beans to the man she promised to be with for the rest of her life. But she accepted him as her husband anyway, knowing full well that secrets and lies destroy any relationship (just look at Clana). If she was really committed to Jimmy she should have made a choice and left her former life behind so she didn't have to lie to him, but she couldn't do that.

She couldn't leave those things behind for Jimmy. I don't blame her for that. I know saving the world is more important than personal happiness, and it's not like she could just leave Clark hanging. But that's not Jimmy's fault. It's her cross to bear and it's not fair to Jimmy being sucked into it without even being aware. But Chloe couldn't make that sacrifice, she wanted her cake and save the world, too. So she entered her marriage with secrets and lies hanging over her head. That's wrong. But what's even more wrong is that she put a complete stranger like Davis before her husband, Jimmy. It's unforgivable. Even though she didn't mean to hurt him and I do believe she loves him. But look at it from Jimmy's POV. Not only did he marry a woman who's life is a complete mystery to him, a woman who has a best friend for whom she drops everything, but now said woman puts a complete stranger before him, her husband. It's too much. Jimmy was completely in the right for calling her out on it.

That being said. The last line...ouch. Very harsh. Poor Chloe.

[noblue4u]

So the whole episode, I was on Jimmy's side. Chloe, the ever-intuitive former reporter, refuses to even give Jimbo the benefit of the doubt. Considering that Davis has admitted to having strange blackouts and he told her he thought he might be a murderer without meaning to be ("Prey"), I think Jimmy's accusations might bear some investigating.

THAT BEING SAID... that last bit where he takes all of those painkillers was just plain silly. After a rather horrific surgery, I spent over a month in bed choking down vicodin gel tablets like they were breath mints. I was literally taking two large liquid tablets every four hours like clockwork as they were my best chance to get an hour or two of sleep a day. Afterwards, I was addicted to them to a degree, but it wasn't anything like addictions to narcotics, nicotine, alcohol, or even caffeine! I just stopped. And before any of you go bringing up the morphine, let me say this: Hospitals and clinics that put their patients on morphine either do it manually (hence being 100% in control of dosage and frequency of said dosage) or they leave it to CODED machines that can't be "messed" with. That way, patients can't give themselves higher or more frequent dosages. At least, that's how it is over in the CA Bay Area (my roommate's a nurse in an ICU in Palo Alto.)

As for Jimmy himself, I'm still on his side even though I think it was stupid for PS3 to give him an addiction. After all the mystery and unexplained events surrounding Clark and Chloe's odd relationship with him, I totally understand Jimmy being jealous or feeling like he's not as much a part of Chloe's life as he should be. With Davis, a complete outsider turned serial murderer, I too would have considered that to be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back, if by "straw" you mean a 750 ton redwood tree. Chloe constantly assured and reassured Jimmy that she trusted him and loved him and was keeping nothing from him and then is not even willing to look into his accusation of Davis. In the past, she even chided him, acting as if he was being irrational for believing there was something, ANYTHING, going on between her and Clark. And while "it" wasn't a romantic relationship, Jimmy's fears and suspicions were more than justified even then. But now Davis? Even CLARK thought he was the murderer in "Prey," and he's the dimmest character on the show!

And below is the real killer, spoilers warning ahead folks. Highlight below to read:

<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000">We know from upcoming episode spoilers that Chloe will be hiding Davis from people like Tess, Clark, and the police, she will be sending "AJ," a street thug, to his death at Davis' hands, and will later be on the run with Davis. We also know from the "All Out War" trailer the CW put out last week that Chloe is present when Davis explains his situation to Clark. In other words, she'll find out soon enough that Jimmy was 100% right about him. What will she do? She'll take him in, protect him, and risk her life to keep him out of the hands of his enemies. Great work, Chloe. Way to go for the serial murderer who drugged your husband and ruined your marriage, tragic villain or not.</SPAN>

Chloe behaved badly and Jimmy's anger was justified. As we all do, Jimmy said some things in anger that he probably didn't mean, namely the whole "biggest mistake" comment. Considering that Jimmy comes from a broken home and yet has preserved an idealized image of marriage in his mind, Chloe's behavior spits in the face of even a less-than-ideal marriage. They aren't dealing with who put the red socks in the wash with the dress shirts, they're dealing with whether or not Chloe is cozying up to a serial killer! Her response to his accusations was that he was delusional due to the drugs and, in some ways, she treated him like a child, which brings me to my final point...

Jimmy told Chloe about Davis to protect her. He didn't want her to be murdered! But Chloe took that instead as Jimmy being jealous, citing those times he was suspicious of her time with Clark. But there WAS something going on with Clark, even if it wasn't romantic in nature. It seems that Chloe is buying into her own lies.

I would feel differently if Chloe recognized that she messed up. If she did and apologized, I'm sure that's all it would take to reunite her with her hubby. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000">But according to spoilers, she won't.</SPAN>

If you ask me, this is all a precursor to Chloe's possibly death in the finale/premier.

[Dyanara]

Ive just watched the episode in full and I must say I am definitely on Chloe's side. Jimmy wasn't acting like a person on drugs he was acting like a nutcase. It didnt even take Davis convincing Chloe that Jimmy must be on too many drugs, the way he was acting by himself would have convinced me that he was crazy not high. Jimmy was way out of line.

[oldblackmagick]

Ive just watched the episode in full and I must say I am definitely on Chloe's side. Jimmy wasn't acting like a person on drugs he was acting like a nutcase. It didnt even take Davis convincing Chloe that Jimmy must be on too many drugs, the way he was acting by himself would have convinced me that he was crazy not high. Jimmy was way out of line.

that's all I'm saying. Jimmy was acting alot like Clark near the END of splinter. He was delusional crazed, angered, and paraniod. Turns out he was right but the amount of drugs in his system made him see doomsday killing his wife...he was definitely out of it and in no condition to go patrolling for a serial killer. He was being irrational and that is why chloe zapped him. He may have even hurt her if she tried to reason with him. I dont think he would have but at that point who knows...ya know?

[SVfan87]

I love Chloe to death but she's been walking all over Jimmy since they first introduced his character in season 6. And he always just stood back and took it because for whatever reason he's crazy about her. I've recently watched the season 7 episode where Jimmy and Chloe broke up (their 2nd breakup) and it's the same issue.. that breakup is practically identical to the one they just had in Turbulence. Chloe never fully trusted Jimmy. I don't doubt that she loves him. Or at least the idea of him. But she never fully opened up to him. So I have to take Jimmy's side. I was shocked at how it came out but I guess Chloe had that coming. I was always a Chlavis fan but I didn't want Chimmy to end like this.. that was heartbreaking!

[Minela]

So, Jimmy was acting crazy and it looked like he was on drugs and having a nervous break down. And even without taking into consideration all the other times she put other people before him, and forgetting all the other times where she made him feel like he was jealous or paranoid even though he wasn't, did she have to do it this time?

If my husband had been in the hospital for 5 weeks and if he was acting like a drug crazed lunatic, I wouldn't have patronized him like that and made him feel like he has not a friend in the world. She could have, at the very least pretended like she was going to check up on his accusations and at the very, very least she shouldn't have been hugging Davis in front of Jimmy's room.

As a wife, she should have assured him she was going to look into his accusations and made him promise her he wasn't going to do anything crazy and let her handle it. If she had done that, than maybe he wouldn't have felt like he had no other choice than to sneak into a serial killer's ambulance at night in his condition.

All I'm saying is, if it had been Clark she would have investigated the accusation. Jimmy knows that, and that's why he snapped.

[smallvillefreak24]

I was surprised , i thought what he said was harsh, but i don't think he was out of line

[devilneedsaride]

Thank you! I'm glad some people are seeing this.

Think back to the conversation with Davis and Chloe in the hallway. Chloe feels really guilty about what's happening to Jimmy. She even believes that if she hadn't met Jimmy he'd be better off. That makes Jimmy's last line even more painful.

We all know Chloe made some mistakes in this episode. She jumped to conclusions and believed all the lies, and that's normally something she doesn't do. She usually does some investigating and will give the people she cares about the benefit of the doubt. Davis set it up very well though. He convinced the police and the hospital attendents that Jimmy had too many drugs. Chloe was at first skeptical, but she knew Jimmy was desperate because of the scene before. The next time she sees Jimmy he's going crazy in the hall. I think its obvious what conclusions she drew. Should she have tasered Jimmy? No. Should she have looked more into his story? Probably. But through all of her mistakes she made tonight she still cares a great deal about Jimmy. That's what made Jimmy's last line, IMO, somewhat unjustified and a slight overreaction. :(

I think a lot of people are being a little harsh on Chloe. Just my opinion, though. :\

I agree with you. I don't think she was perfect, but she acted reasonably given what she knew. I don't think she had bad intentions toward Jimmy at any point during this episode, and that she was genuinely trying to help him. I posted some long reasoning on another thread about why Chloe should be cut some slack, but it pretty much boils down to that. Then again, Chloe would probably have to leap out of my TV screen and start hacking my limbs off with a machete for me to stop defending her, so take that as you will.


ITA! :)

I think he was completely justified saying most of the things that he did. But that last line.....he might as well have ripped out her heart. :(

I dont know how to explain why that line is so hurtful...in a way, it's saying more about who chloe is then their marriage. He wasnt just saying that maybe they made a joint mistake entering their marriage. He's saying "marrying YOU was the biggest mistake of my life." It's the same as saying "I wish I had married someone else....or anyone else but you."

We all know Chloe already has some selfworth issues.....so this, ugh....it just broke my heart for her. I wouldnt wish those words spoken to any woman in the world, and Chloe is already so unsure of herself.....

Like I said, speaking as a woman.....It crushed me, and I wasnt even on the receiving end! :(

The really sad thing.....that can never be unseen. Chimmy is dead for good. :\

What I was thinking right then was that Jimmy was probably really effing himself over. He was saying those things in anger, in the heat of the moment, without giving himself time to properly consider it. I was thinking "Wow. I hope he's really sure he means that, because he can never take something like that back."

And poor Chloe, jeez. I can see somebody deserving that if they, I dunno, intentionally killed a family member. She made some mistakes, but they were honest ones. Jimmy's anger was understandable, but I don't think she deserved that. I just wanted to run in and give her a hug and a giant can of chocolate or something.

[unfocused]

So, a person deserves to be yelled at in public and have nasty things said to them only if they murdered a family member? I'd like to think that murderers should get life in prison or the death penalty, not just harsh words yelled at them...

The public humiliation Jimmy gave to Chloe was NOT as bad as all the things she put him through. People want to say that no one deserves to be yelled at in public but the truth is no one deserves to have their wife not trust them, take sides with other men that she finds attractive, lied to and be physically harmed by her over another man.

As I posted in that other thread, here's a list of the bad things Chimmy has done to each other, according to ALL of the comments I have read from fans since the airing of Turbulence. You can weigh them out and choose who you think deserves what and whatnot.

Jimmy:
Publicly humiliated Chloe

Chloe:
Allowed Davis to kiss her, and hesitated to stop him.
Physically attacked an already injured Jimmy with a lethal weapon to stop him from harming Davis, who has strong feelings for her.
Failed to give her husband the benefit of the doubt when he accused Davis of murder.
Took Davis' side over her husbands when three people have accused Davis of murder, one of which was Davis himself.
Has lied to Jimmy to his face and continues to keep secrets from him.

[ox007]

Chloe deserved public humiliation after what she's done to Jimmy, besides Jimmy was on drugs so he wouldn't hesitate to throw everything out of his heart out laud, Jimmy ain't no saint as well of course, but during this rough time she should support him more and that's a fact Jack :)

But I've noticed that Chloe has some very faithful supporters that will always defend her no matter what she does :)

[Mindylynne]

I think Chloe didn't really expect this. She was really suprised by his reaction.

[Queenrocks77]

Chloe was right by his side the whole time (except for when she was hugging other guys in the hallway). Loves Jimmy. But she doesn't believe him??! She's the meteor freak's worst nightmare (intrepid reporter). AND SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE JIMMY!!! He wasn't that doped up!! :D

[unfocused]

You're right. Chloe: "intrepid reporter." Smallville: "Meteor Freak Capitol of the World." And yet she can't believe that an accused murderer could have murdered someone?

[Antiyonder]

Has lied to Jimmy to his face and continues to keep secrets from him.


The other examples I'll give you, but some of the secrets were necessary such as:

- Clark's alien background. It's not her secret to tell.
- She probably would have spilt her meteor infected powers secret, if Jimmy didn't make that hateful statement about the meteor infected people. He might as well have called them meteor trash.

[MsCali4Eva]

Ugh I am so sick of people constantly seeing things from Jimmy's pov but not taking into consideration that Chloe does not have all this information. Excuse blondie for not knowing Davis=Doomsday

Shoot. Chloe, might not have deserved some of the harsh words that came out Jimmy's mouth, but she deserved EVERY angry reaction that she got from him. Jimmy tried to warn Chloe about Davis and she wouldn't listen. Then Chloe hugs up on the guy, when Jimmy clearly displayed his distrust for Davis. On top of this, Chloe tazered Jimmy when he was trying to put away Davis the killer. So you would tazer your husband when he is trying to do the Samaritan thing? Jimmy wanted to show Chloe the truth about Davis. That's why he handcuffed Davis to the fence. And if your wife is spending more time with other people (Clark, Davis, etc, etc), while you are laying immobile in a hospital bed for a few months after a near-death experience, wouldn't you be pissed off? Plus Chloe didn't share with her husband her previous meteor abilities, or the whole Brainaic experience. That is withholding important information from someone you are supposed to be spending the rest of your life with. "I" becomes "we". Chloe is still doing things as an "I", and Chloe is not being honest to Jimmy or herself.

I still like Chloe, but she did her husband wrong in this episode and this whole season. Period.

[Antiyonder]

Plus Chloe didn't share with her husband her previous meteor abilities, or the whole Brainaic experience.

Again, Jimmy made a negative comment about meteor folks in general. If he didn't make the generalization, then perhaps Chloe would have been more open in that regard.

[Clana Kent]

Chloe told Jimmy she was a MF back in "Gemini"... In the elevator scene ;)

[Bizarrolover]

Chloe told Jimmy she was a MF back in "Gemini"... In the elevator scene ;)

And his reply was to kiss her. So not only he knew, but he accepted her fully.

[Antiyonder]

And his reply was to kiss her. So not only he knew, but he accepted her fully.

Maybe so, but considering that his prior implication was that all of the meteor infected are scum and should be locked away, can you blame her for hesitating?

[Bizarrolover]

Maybe so, but considering that his prior implication was that all of the meteor infected are scum and should be locked away, can you blame her for hesitating?

No I don't blame her, but I don't blame him either. Jimmy had all the right to dislike meteor freaks as he saw the things that happened in Smallville because of them. I'm sure Chloe filled him up with some very interesting stories before she learned she was part of the meteor infected masses. Also, let's not forget that Jimmy almost died in 'Wither', and while the woman who tried to kill him was a phantom and not a MF, Jimmy doesn't know that.

I guess Chloe had more trouble accepting herself than sharing her 'condition' with Jimmy. She didn't even open to Clark about how she felt about this until way into season 7, I think it was in Fracture. So it was not about how Jimmy felt about MFs, it was about how she felt about herself. In gemini, she even tells Jimmy that he was awsome the time they were together and that she pulled away because she was different. She never blames him o tells him she resents him for his opinions about MFs. And I think she was being sincere. Then they when they are about to die, comes the confession. 'For going out without regrets'. She told him, he kissed her.

[unfocused]

The other examples I'll give you, but some of the secrets were necessary such as:

- Clark's alien background. It's not her secret to tell.
- She probably would have spilt her meteor infected powers secret, if Jimmy didn't make that hateful statement about the meteor infected people. He might as well have called them meteor trash.

I'm not questioning her reasons for keeping secrets from her husband. I'm just stating the fact that Jimmy's wife keeps secrets from him.

[devilneedsaride]

So, a person deserves to be yelled at in public and have nasty things said to them only if they murdered a family member? I'd like to think that murderers should get life in prison or the death penalty, not just harsh words yelled at them...

The public humiliation Jimmy gave to Chloe was NOT as bad as all the things she put him through. People want to say that no one deserves to be yelled at in public but the truth is no one deserves to have their wife not trust them, take sides with other men that she finds attractive, lied to and be physically harmed by her over another man.


That was a pretty freakin odd thing for me to say, wasn't it? No accounting for what comes out of my mouth or keyboard at 5 AM. What I meant was that while I can imagine situations in which Chloe would deserve to have "Marrying you was the biggest mistake of my life" said to her, I don't think this was one of them. Like I said earlier, from what Chloe knew at the time, tasing Jimmy was the best thing to do for all of them. What if he had really been having a psychotic break and had killed someone because he was delusional? It would ruin the rest of his life. If I were in that position I would want my wife to stop me through any means available, including tasing.

It's not about the public humiliation, imo. It's about the person you care about most in the world saying one of the most hurtful things imaginable. I had somebody say something like that to me once, and suffice to say that it's not something I will ever forget. Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words leave permanent psychological scarring. While I certainly sympathize with Jimmy's frustration and don't blame him for blowing up, I don't think Chloe really deserved that last jab. JMHO.