Are we back on track?

[galatians221]

Did this episode undo the damage of the previous Clana escapades and return the focus to advancing CK's grasping his destiny? It has been since Identity that we've seen CK and Lois at the DP working on crime stories in and around Metropolis and drawing closer to each other. It has been since Bride that CLois interruptus took place and the entire thrust or direction of S9 went dramatically south. Did Infamous bring us back on course?

[Alania]

Sort of, baby steps. When u live such atrocities of untold havoc like P/R combo (don't even like to write the whole word), it kinda takes u a little bit longer to get up and be fully standing again.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

^^ :lol:LOL, "atrocities of untold havoc", that's the only way to explain them honestly.

Anyway:

I say, Maybe not, because yes it's kind of a continuation from the bride and legion (IMO),but, it seems as though they are set to forget that those Lana epi's ever happened! Which sucks cause it gives us no flow or proper continuity in the story!

But

The episode has not aired as yet so i can't really be sure :\

[Jor-Fer]

Why are there some votes if the episode doesn´t aired yet?

[SupermanRox]

Because it hasn't aired yet. Not in the US anyway.

[Jor-Fer]

Wow , another problem with my english , this is so hard:(

Thank you:cool:

[tj_powers]

In Canada the episode airs tonight. I cant watch it though... I dont have timeshifting lol

[zorasuperman]

a tiiiiiinnnnnnyyy bit
baby steps

[LoveHurts38]

I will wait and vote until I watch the episode.

[galatians221]

Why are there some votes if the episode doesn´t aired yet?

I'm guessing that they're going by the spoilers. I hope it's a great episode but it's hard to get real excited when Erica Durance is only in a few of the remaining episodes. That is so lame I don't have words for it.

[Alania]

I hope it's a great episode but it's hard to get real excited when Erica Durance is only in a few of the remaining episodes. That is so lame I don't have words for it.

ITA, Word, second that. I actually have tried to find words for it, but some things are simply undescribable.

[WickedJenn]

I'm going to lock until after this episode airs since the questions steer that way ;)

Will re-open once this has aired.

[galatians221]

Did this episode undo the damage of the previous Clana escapades and return the focus to advancing CK's grasping his destiny? It has been since Identity that we've seen CK and Lois at the DP working on crime stories in and around Metropolis and drawing closer to each other. It has been since Bride that CLois interruptus took place and the entire thrust or direction of S9 went dramatically south. Did Infamous bring us back on course?

[melissan02]

No, unfortunately we're still derailed!:rolleyes:

[Clana Kent]

I don't think Clana did any damage to the series. It's a beautiful show for 7 years and it still is. I enjoyed Power a lot more than this episode. I don't like Lois being so bossy and annoying. And when she acted as if she loves Clark, I didn't really buy it.
I'm starting to believe Lois really pulled of that thing before saying "yes" in Committed.

[LoveHurts38]

Sort of,baby steps but not enough.

[myankskent]

I think that this show is still way off the tracks. Yes, the Clana arc is responsible for some of this, but IMO, some of the decisions that Clark made in this episode were really questionable.

[SupermanRox]

It is a good start!

[dezperado]

I'm not a Lana hater, but hated the previous four episodes. I made a post similar to this a couple days ago in the general discussion section. But, I dismissed the last four epis as never happened. So if you go back to the holiday hiatus; it's been like 4 1/2 months since we've seen a quality Smallville episode. Therefore I looked at this one as the 2nd Season 8 season premeire. Was it worth the wait? Well, as a big fan...of course it was and we are Back on Track!

[skugers]

the second option

[costas22]

This episode reminded me of Odyssey.It wasn't the best of the lot but it's purpose was damage limitation.Just like Plastique set the tone,i expect Turbulence to do the same.Too bad Lois won't be in it.

[Who]

I never thought it was off track.

[kg1507]

we're getting there...

[Mickey_Bickey]

I've already posted many times that I've moved on, and it was great to see last night that Clark is not pining for Lana. He's moving slowly toward Lois, and I like that they're not throwing them together right off the bat because of the Clana arc and the damage it did. It's better to move ahead with the Doomsday storyline and move slowly on Clois. I liked that they're showing that Clark is realizing his feelings for her, and Erica Durance did an outstanding job last night in her performance. She's a fantastic actress, and her and Tom Welling have tremendous chemistry together.

I'm looking forward to the rest of the episodes and next season!!

[Timester]

It would be bad writting if they just ignored what happened in the Power arc. As bad as it was, they have to build up from there.

It was actually my fear (like I said a month ago), that they would ignore the Power arc. Good thing that they didn't.

[Clana Kent]

I never thought it was off track.
I totally agree!

[Kevin24]

The show never got off track so we are still on track in my book. Been great all season!

[Doomsday44]

Last nights ep has us going in the right direction.

[Mars Investigations]

It's getting slowly back on track, but Clark was so stupid that it hurt.

[Mickey_Bickey]

I thought that Power and Requiem completely derailed the show. So much so that it seemed like a different show altogether to me at least! Last night showed promise.

[rajman]

it is heading in the right direction, there is no question about it!

[blink2matrix]

i voted that we are back on track. it felt like the first 10 episodes of the season to me last night and i loved it.

[borednow]

Nothing can undo what was done... but it seems like we are moving in the right direction again, Clark may have been being an idiot but he was a proactive idiot!

[melissan02]

it is heading in the right direction, there is no question about it!

That avi is AWESOME!! HYSTERICAL!!:rotfl:

[galatians221]

I've already posted many times that I've moved on, and it was great to see last night that Clark is not pining for Lana. He's moving slowly toward Lois, and I like that they're not throwing them together right off the bat because of the Clana arc and the damage it did. It's better to move ahead with the Doomsday storyline and move slowly on Clois. I liked that they're showing that Clark is realizing his feelings for her, and Erica Durance did an outstanding job last night in her performance. She's a fantastic actress, and her and Tom Welling have tremendous chemistry together.

I'm looking forward to the rest of the episodes and next season!!

Unfortunately, I don't think Durance is in next week's show and only two or three more the rest of the season. That is simply horrible imho. I almost wish that they would clean house and hire all new producers and writers. It is inexcusable that Erica is in so few episodes.

[wafflles87]

Not quite. But getting there.
At least it's not running in the opposite direction at superspeed like it did the last 2 epis :lol:

[Harrison_Bergeron]

I didn't like that Lana came back, the show was so much better post-Lana, but we got Matrix in the last epi, so I say the show was awesome and never strayed from the right track.

[disciples of zod]

it's going back up in the crazy roller-coaster of season 8. hopefully it'll get better. so far it's looking somewhat promising.

~H

[devilicus rebel]

I think these last few episodes up to and including the season finale will make us all forget that Power and Requiem ever even happened. By May, they will never be worth mentioning again. I thought last nights episode was amazing.

[davidbrenton]

I loved the episode and I'd say "definitely back on track."

[PeterKriz]

Sort of; baby steps but not enough ... we will see how the rest of the season will go...

[e-µ-i]

The first option. We are sooo back on track. Doomy coming out more often, Davis killing Linda, Clark protecting Lois, Chloe being the emotional support and not some helper...
Yeah !

[clois-destiny-forever]

We're getting back on the right track! Full steam ahead!

[Smallville Vamp]

[/quote I'm starting to believe Lois really pulled of that thing before saying "yes" in Committed.[/quote]

I don't get it. If you believed she pulled the sensor off her finger then WHY do you think she would still say "yes" to the question? She could've saved face and just answered NO to begin with. If she doesn't really care about Clark she could take the easy route and just let him get shocked AGAIN. :confused:

Getting back on topic baby steps people, after all this is SV. :p

[Iluvgreen]

By the end of the season, we won't even remember that Lana was in the show before.

[petewillreturn]

By the end of the season, we won't even remember that Lana was in the show before.

Who is Lana?

But seriously I think it is on track again. For me it went off because it was dealing with the same story line that should have been dealt with seasons ago. I didn’t really watch the Lana episodes, so I don’t have much to forget. But I do think the writers still need to deal with that story line: the whole suit thing.

[Mickey_Bickey]

Unfortunately, I don't think Durance is in next week's show and only two or three more the rest of the season. That is simply horrible imho. I almost wish that they would clean house and hire all new producers and writers. It is inexcusable that Erica is in so few episodes.

True!! I completely agree, and I'm really looking forward to Hex, Stiletto and the finale! Lois' character brings so much to this show, and she's really taken for granted!! I'm looking forward to the RBB encounter in the phone booth in Stiletto, that "loving look" in Hex, and whatever Matt is talking about in Doomsday! I think Clark by that time is going to know he's head over heels in love with her too!:D;)

[Weez-El]

It works a lot better if you regard the Lana mini-arc as if they never happened. An 'Elseworlds' tale if you will...

[Bizarrolover]

I'm not sure we are back in tracks yet, the Lana arc was very traumatic and if they can write a crap like that and actually think it's good, then they can do it again. As much as I loved infamous I don't want to put my guard down.

[marcella]

It's taking baby steps, but it's already much better than Power and Requiem

[Harrison_Bergeron]

Do the members of K-site at least acknowledge that Lana having powers is not a creation of SV?

I'd been waiting for Matrix for quite a while and thought it was pretty sweet to get her.

[borednow]

It's taking baby steps, but it's already much better than Power and Requiem

Power, Requiem, Infamous
1, didn't watch, 7... the world definitely looks brighter...

[The Dark Knight74]

Yes. Lana who?

[galatians221]

The first option. We are sooo back on track. Doomy coming out more often, Davis killing Linda, Clark protecting Lois, Chloe being the emotional support and not some helper...
Yeah !

I remain frustrated that Clark doesn't want to tell Lois; his words are exactly the same we heard for six seasons regarding Lana. Coupling that with the fact that Erica isn't in many more episodes this year and it's depressing. I enjoyed this episode but not the final result. He shouldn't have destroyed the ring and I want Lois to know his secret.

[paolinki25]

A little bit, though that bitter taste from the 2 episodes before this is hard to let go of. It was just that bad.

[galatians221]

I'm not sure we are back in tracks yet, the Lana arc was very traumatic and if they can write a crap like that and actually think it's good, then they can do it again. As much as I loved infamous I don't want to put my guard down.

Yeah, something tells me that our hopes are better spent on S9. Perhaps S8 will end well but Erica is like cowbell to me. I need more cowbell.

[davidbrenton]

Yeah, something tells me that our hopes are better spent on S9. Perhaps S8 will end well but Erica is like cowbell to me. I need more cowbell.

S9 is where all the reward will be. S8 is a huge buildup. I'm so glad I'm not screaming at my TV because there's not enough time to execute FULL Clois by S8 finale.

[petitemimi]

In a non -shipper way, yes I believe that S8 has resumed with Infamous.

[Bizarrolover]

S9 is where all the reward will be. S8 is a huge buildup. I'm so glad I'm not screaming at my TV because there's not enough time to execute FULL Clois by S8 finale.

yeah, I know, but Smallville is famous for taking one step forward and three steps back. I loved this season (sans the Lana arc) and I'm not sure they are not going to do it again. These people never learn from their mistakes because, in the first place, they never admit they made one. These are the same writers/producers that came up with Power and Requiem and I'm sure they still think that bringing Lana back for a couple of episodes in the next season would be a hit.

[Harrison_Bergeron]

These are the same writers/producers that came up with Power and Requiem and I'm sure they still think that bringing Lana back for a couple of episodes in the next season would be a hit.

As long as her hair has turned red and she's gained some new powers I would be all for it.

[devilneedsaride]

It seems like the writers are pretending that none of the Lana stuff happened. For the sake of enjoying the show, I've been trying to do the same, but it still isn't quite right.

Maybe with some more time to forget it all, I'll be able to really get back into it. I said baby steps.

[lifelovedestiny]

It's baby steps, baby steps, I am sure most of us have forgotten that Lana ever came back, but it's obvious that Clark hasn't forgotten yet.

[galatians221]

yeah, I know, but Smallville is famous for taking one step forward and three steps back. I loved this season (sans the Lana arc) and I'm not sure they are not going to do it again. These people never learn from their mistakes because, in the first place, they never admit they made one. These are the same writers/producers that came up with Power and Requiem and I'm sure they still think that bringing Lana back for a couple of episodes in the next season would be a hit.

Great points and our only hope imho is that Welling has negotiated some degree of artistic control and that new writers will be coming in. I hope they bring that guy back who's name started with "De" Deberg or DeWitt or something like that. I think his first name was Tom but I'm drawing a blank on his last name. No it was Steve, but I still can't remember his last name.

[Crouching Lurker]

I've already posted many times that I've moved on, and it was great to see last night that Clark is not pining for Lana. He's moving slowly toward Lois, and I like that they're not throwing them together right off the bat because of the Clana arc and the damage it did. It's better to move ahead with the Doomsday storyline and move slowly on Clois. I liked that they're showing that Clark is realizing his feelings for her, and Erica Durance did an outstanding job last night in her performance. She's a fantastic actress, and her and Tom Welling have tremendous chemistry together.

I'm looking forward to the rest of the episodes and next season!!

Agreed.

[Alicia Chipy]

Their relationship is still at an impasse.Maybe after Stilletto.

[galatians221]

Their relationship is still at an impasse.Maybe after Stilletto.

I think Lois is ready but CK isn't. She'll have to grow on him some more. If only we hadn't had those four awful episodes they would be further along.

[galatians221]

It's getting slowly back on track, but Clark was so stupid that it hurt.

I just saw the episode and you're right. He can't seem to figure anything out. Chloe remains immensely more intelligent then CK and that is ridiculous. Now he won't tell Lois his secret which is another bad choice. The writers insist on portraying Clark as a doofus. I hope that changes.

[borednow]

But at lest he was a proactive doofus!

[rebecavaldez]

Baby steps. A part of me can't let go that Lana came back but this episode did help a lot to forget about Clana!

[galatians221]

But at lest he was a proactive doofus!

I don't know; Chloe comes to the barn to find him staring into space and worrying about how he will respond. He ignores Chloe's advice which tells us that even CK doesn't understand that the writers have made Chloe to be smarter than him. That is being a total doofus.

[Night_Hawk90]

this show will never be on track until smallville gets writers that are not idiots

[Tinyeppy]

Nothing will make me forget about the Lana arc

Baby step for me I mean they had to put a hold on Clois b/c of the arc. This was for the best b/c Clois after breaking the bed Clana is just to soon to start.

BABY STEPS but still not enough..... We need more time to develop CK "superman" persona and Clois.

[ZeoVGM]

We didn't get off track. People are hugely exaggerating the Lana episodes with insane hyperbole. Were they as good as the ones previously? Nah. But they were still really good. I'm so glad I'm not a fanboy who has this insane hate for Lana for no reason.

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this show will never be on track until smallville gets writers that are not idiots

And posts like this make me remember why I barely ever posted here. It's pretty disgusting.

Why even post if you don't like the show? This season has been fantastic. It's like some of you just live to ***** and moan, but you'll keep watching like hypocrites.

[Night_Hawk90]

We didn't get off track. People are hugely exaggerating the Lana episodes with insane hyperbole. Were they as good as the ones previously? Nah. But they were still really good. I'm so glad I'm not a fanboy who has this insane hate for Lana for no reason.

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And posts like this make me remember why I barely ever posted here. It's pretty disgusting.

Why even post if you don't like the show? This season has been fantastic. It's like some of you just live to ***** and moan, but you'll keep watching like hypocrites.
uh first off never said i didnt like the show i just said the writing has been quite bad, maybe if i reiterated my statement by saying if the writing would be consistently good then the show would be back on track. Obviously my and your sense of taste is quite opposite but i really dont like being called a hypocrite cause as bad as the writing has been i have stuck with the show since s1.

[desertcoyote]

Baby Steps... the writers have to answer for a couple of issues this season:

1. Lana returning. What was the point? For Clark to have closure? I thought he had it when she dumped him via DVD. Was he happy with the situation? Of course not, but it was still closure. Instead they retconned the end of last season so they can bring Lana back, only to take her away in a manner that hurts Clark the most, having her absorb kryptonite. That just seemed lame to me.

2. Clark's (still) lack of maturity. His maturity is even more important now that he's acting as Metropolis' hidden hero. Infamous highlighted that fact with Clark's incredible short sightedness in rejecting Lake's blackmail without a proper plan. His belief that the feds wouldn't want to "talk" to him was just silly. Thinking his "coming out" wouldn't affect the lives of his friends and family in a negative way was just plain stupid, not to mention extremely dangerous. That was a lesson Clark should have learned when a Metro Cop tried to blackmail him with harming his family unless he stole for said cop.

Now how can the writers redeem themselves? Here's two quick ideas:

1. Clois. Now that Season 9 is a go let it happen, but don't rush them into a relationship. Let it progress. Especially since Lois probably isn't happy at how quick she was dropped for Lana and that Clark isn't (or shouldn't be) ready for a real relationship.

2. Episodes that allow Clark to grow/mature. Have him realize that he needs to think ahead because his decisions are really matter of life and death. Have him realize that no matter how strong and fast he is, that he can't save everyone (if he hasnt' learned that lesson already). Let's have him notice that as the Red and Blue Blur, he really can't lead humanity by example. That for him to truly inspire the world, he would have to adopt a public persona (Superman) without endangering his friends/family. Let's see him mature into the man that's supposed to become Superman.

[galatians221]

Baby Steps... the writers have to answer for a couple of issues this season:

1. Lana returning. What was the point? For Clark to have closure? I thought he had it when she dumped him via DVD. Was he happy with the situation? Of course not, but it was still closure. Instead they retconned the end of last season so they can bring Lana back, only to take her away in a manner that hurts Clark the most, having her absorb kryptonite. That just seemed lame to me.

2. Clark's (still) lack of maturity. His maturity is even more important now that he's acting as Metropolis' hidden hero. Infamous highlighted that fact with Clark's incredible short sightedness in rejecting Lake's blackmail without a proper plan. His belief that the feds wouldn't want to "talk" to him was just silly. Thinking his "coming out" wouldn't affect the lives of his friends and family in a negative way was just plain stupid, not to mention extremely dangerous. That was a lesson Clark should have learned when a Metro Cop tried to blackmail him with harming his family unless he stole for said cop.

Now how can the writers redeem themselves? Here's two quick ideas:

1. Clois. Now that Season 9 is a go let it happen, but don't rush them into a relationship. Let it progress. Especially since Lois probably isn't happy at how quick she was dropped for Lana and that Clark isn't (or shouldn't be) ready for a real relationship.

2. Episodes that allow Clark to grow/mature. Have him realize that he needs to think ahead because his decisions are really matter of life and death. Have him realize that no matter how strong and fast he is, that he can't save everyone (if he hasnt' learned that lesson already). Let's have him notice that as the Red and Blue Blur, he really can't lead humanity by example. That for him to truly inspire the world, he would have to adopt a public persona (Superman) without endangering his friends/family. Let's see him mature into the man that's supposed to become Superman.


Good points but in order for the second one to happen Chloe needs to go. Clark seems helpless without her and Oliver's satelites. I also agree that they need to let CLois progress but Durance is in so few episodes left in S8 that not much can be done there. If they don't bring her back as a co-star in S9 in all episodes then they will have blown it.

[desertcoyote]

I'm under the assumption that Chloe will be gone either at the end of this season or sometime in Season 9. I can only hope that Lois is in most of the shows next season.

[galatians221]

I'm under the assumption that Chloe will be gone either at the end of this season or sometime in Season 9. I can only hope that Lois is in most of the shows next season.

My guess is that she will be gone this season.

[galatians221]

A little bit, though that bitter taste from the 2 episodes before this is hard to let go of. It was just that bad.

It will be a while before this group of writers gains our trust.

[tj_powers]

It will be a while before this group of writers gains our trust.

lol speak for yourself! I enjoy how this season went. Sont forget that doing too much too soon ruins the rest of the season. I think this episode was done so nicely because when Clark tried to explain to her why he had to go back in time... she didnt understand or want to understand why he had to do it. all she wanted was to be with him and knowing his secret. But if Lois truly did fall for her would she really have written his life story!? I think someone who would truly love the guy would try to convince of doing otherwize.

[galatians221]

lol speak for yourself! I enjoy how this season went. Sont forget that doing too much too soon ruins the rest of the season. I think this episode was done so nicely because when Clark tried to explain to her why he had to go back in time... she didnt understand or want to understand why he had to do it. all she wanted was to be with him and knowing his secret. But if Lois truly did fall for her would she really have written his life story!? I think someone who would truly love the guy would try to convince of doing otherwize.

Good points. I didn't like the way Infamous went in that regards. Lois finding out should have been more dramatic.

[Tatiana]

i think we r getting there, i wanna see Clark show more his love for Lois and for sure make it seem he forgot Lana, I loved that they put him talking to his mom though :) and i want him to flyyyyyyy

[galatians221]

i think we r getting there, i wanna see Clark show more his love for Lois and for sure make it seem he forgot Lana, I loved that they put him talking to his mom though :) and i want him to flyyyyyyy

Bingo. Maybe this week. Imagine the buzz in Metropolis and the Daily Planet when Lois reveals that the Blur can fly!!!!!!!!!!

[galatians221]

Sort of,baby steps but not enough.

Agreed.

[Jaded Wolf]

No, it did not. It is like once the snowball hits Smallville it keeps rolling downhill clausing an avalanche to the whole season. I think it will take a few more episodes to recover from the Lana scrap and this episode.

[galatians221]

No, it did not. It is like once the snowball hits Smallville it keeps rolling downhill clausing an avalanche to the whole season. I think it will take a few more episodes to recover from the Lana scrap and this episode.

Unfortunately Durance is only in a few remaining episodes. What a horrible mistake.

[Sunny8]

I don't know yet. I have to see the next two episodes first.