View Full Version : Why did PS3 build up Lois and Clark through season 8 just to do this?
santoniou
02-06-2009, 06:13 AM
After watching Power and Requiem, I don't get why the writers worked a romance
between Clark and Lois through most of season 8 just to end it with Clark saying how he
loves Lana so much and would clearly pick Lana over Lois any day, the writers must have
known how much this would anger everyone, so why did they do it?
cklookalike89
02-06-2009, 06:26 AM
Good question. I think this was their way of supposedly giving us closure but it definitley doesnt feel that way. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Dom20
02-06-2009, 09:24 AM
Bait and Switch. They baited the audience with something and then switched back to the old ways. Basic part of Laziness if you ask me. The writers just recycled there old Lana storylines. I guess its too hard for them to come up with other storylines for Clark.
DontCha
02-06-2009, 09:26 AM
Nope, becaus it is not the end of the story, This arc came in the middle. Its only act 2. The disruption stage.
whatever was established in act 1 is how things are meant to be by the end of the story, but because of the disruption things wont be exactly the same, but there will besome sort of return to that original state, Ususally things change for the better not the worse.
Dyanara
02-06-2009, 09:27 AM
Because in their mind Lois isn't Clarks true love and this is there way of showing it.
Iluvgreen
02-06-2009, 09:28 AM
I think what we need to do, is trust PS3 that they will make up for it.
RED_SUN
02-06-2009, 09:33 AM
Probably to give KK and all the KK fans the send off her and her character questionably deserved.
Probably to once and for all give the Clark and Lana story closure once and for all after all it has been a major part of the show.
If there is a Season 9 be sure that during the whole season you will see Lois and Clark's relationship get stronger and stronger not in a way that Clarks just like " Hey Lana who was she" But indicating that their love will grow to become far greater than what he had with Lana.
Dom20
02-06-2009, 08:14 PM
I think what we need to do, is trust PS3 that they will make up for it.
People have been saying the same thing two seasons ago. I'm just a human being, and frankly my last bit of trust has disappeared. So screw PS3.
melissan02
02-06-2009, 08:16 PM
People have been saying the same thing two seasons ago. I'm just a human being, and frankly my last bit of trust has disappeared. So screw PS3.
I have these same sentiments after the horrible Lana arc as well. My trust is gone!
Sunny8
02-06-2009, 11:59 PM
Bait and Switch. They baited the audience with something and then switched back to the old ways. Basic part of Laziness if you ask me. The writers just recycled there old Lana storylines. I guess its too hard for them to come up with other storylines for Clark.
It was a ploy. They started with Lois and Clark because of ratings. They knew that if they started season 8 off with Lana and Clark (yet again) the ratings for season 8 would have been down. Based on the ratings for the first half of season 8, SV probably secured a season 9. They would not have been able to do that if the Lana5arc took place at the beginning. So bait and switch, I agree.
cma_454
02-09-2009, 09:32 AM
I have these same sentiments after the horrible Lana arc as well. My trust is gone!
I agree.
It's not that they can't recover and get the show back on the track (the way this season started), it's that I no longer have faith that they will, or that they'll even try.
But, I sincerly hope I'm wrong.
MetropolisGirl4SV
02-09-2009, 09:39 AM
It was a ploy. They started with Lois and Clark because of ratings. They knew that if they started season 8 off with Lana and Clark (yet again) the ratings for season 8 would have been down. Based on the ratings for the first half of season 8, SV probably secured a season 9. They would not have been able to do that if the Lana5arc took place at the beginning. So bait and switch, I agree.
ITA, It was a ploy! It seems they really don't care about Clark Kent but only want to reach out to a certain fan base for higher ratings, while doing this at the expense of Clark Kent. At the end of the day I guess it's all about Power. :\
skugers
02-09-2009, 11:47 AM
I think the hole Lana Lang arc should've aired during S7. It wouldn't have looked so stupid and unfit to the first 9 ep of S8
MrZeppo
02-09-2009, 12:03 PM
Well this is based just on realistic observations and what I know of showbiz...
Season 7 we had to deal with the WGA strike. That proved to be a problem because KK was signed for 5 more episodes but was also supposed to be filming the Street Fighter movie, so they had to write her off before the season ended. They realized they could get her in Season 8, so they decided to bring her back for some emotional tension but also to wrap up the Lana storyline.
Realizing they had no female lead or a romantic storyline for Clark, they decided to bump up Lois' role this season and start playing off the Clark and Lois dynamic. While it may have been subtle for the characters, it wasn't really that subtle for us viewers. I mean, how many times can they say "Lois and Clark", lol. And beyond anything, I think there are more people who want to see Clois happen than see Clana happen. I do think that's the popular ship for the show and they realized it was time to start it off. So they teased the fans, knowing most of them love it, but introduce Lana as the element that keeps Lois and Clark apart mid-way.
Why? Because they can't give the viewers what they want, at least not right away, otherwise why would the viewers come back? As much as fans complained about how this arc effects Lois, you know they are all going to check out "Infamous" in March because they want to see how this plays out. The tension keeps you hooked in.
And while I think they did want to finish up Lana's arc, I think everyone under the sun knows KK disliked how Lana was written and really didn't want to come back to play her after her 5 episode contract is up. I think KK and the writers wanted to redeem and empower Lana so they cooked up this super-power and sacrifice arc for her. Now with powers she can never be the victim and leaves as a hero. I think they wanted to empower Lana as a strong woman and make her have her own destiny outside of Clark. Truth be told I think they did this to really make KK happy. I am sure she was pissed off having to play Lana as she did for the past 7 years and wanted her to leave with a bang. Sadly I think the writers went too far and made her look good while making everyone else, particularly Clark, look more flawed. But let's forget about that.
Anyway due to limited budget, they couldn't pay to have KK and Erica around at the same time, so they wrote Lois out in "Bride". I cannot tell you what a missed oppurtunity I think this was. I think they should have kept Lois around because I think having a triangle with Lana would have been epic.
Now with Erica and Lois coming back, I guess that Clark will be moving on. They gave the character closure with Lana. I imagine the way they will execute Clois is by having Clark realize Lana was never "the one" for him. I'm not saying have Clark realize Lois is the one for him. In fact I want them to tease us with Clois some more. To have him jump immediately to her would be shameful, but I think to have him move on in a way that is realistic to us viewers is needed and ease into Clois slowly.
Alania
02-09-2009, 12:04 PM
I think the hole Lana Lang arc should've aired during S7. It wouldn't have looked so stupid and unfit to the first 9 ep of S8
It is just to make clois fans drown in anger and frustration; they start bulding the love, the feelings are everywhere and when they decide to do something about it, Lana freaking Lang comes in and stop destiny. :mad:
ED said in an interview Lois would step back, that she was working with the writers to make Lois worthy of Clark, since she has always been portrayed as miss imperfection and Lana, miss perfection :rolleyes:. Now with all that ridiculous arc and no Lois at all, everyone seems to be wanting her back more than ever before and Clark is the one who needs to be worthy of her, not the other way around.
devilneedsaride
02-09-2009, 12:05 PM
Bad writing? :rolleyes:
I could spend forever going though this potentially legitimate reason and that potentially legitimate reason, but I just keep coming back to bad writing.
ox007
02-09-2009, 01:13 PM
I think the producers didn't want to lead the story into the direction most people wanted them to - a normal Lana-Clark goodbye wouldn't have created this much emotions in the forums and this much talk about it. An unpredictible and dramatic ending - in opposition to Lois-Clark relationship have caused a huge debate and in many cases frustration. I think the producers were hoping it would. And they did it. And now everyone is waiting for the next episode and the return of Lois! And how Clark will react after seeing her again! I just hope they won't mess that up, and yes I think they've gone too far in this Lana arc.
Sweetie
02-09-2009, 02:04 PM
I think the writters were building Clois ever since she appeared in season 4.They became friends pretty quickly and they have been flirting with each other since season 7.But,they didn't have a proper date yet.How can Lois be treated if they were not in a serious relationship? She knew Clark still had feelings for Lana and that's why she stepped a side in bride to let him to have another chance.Now that he can't be with her ever again,he will get all of himself and will move on.I would have appreciated a more proper ending than that(that only shows how lazy those writters are).
People have been throught hard break up,had to let go someone for their own good and fall in love all over again all the time.Why would be any different with CK just because he is a hero that doesn't mean he can't have more one love,make mistakes or bad choices.CK is an alien but,he has been raised by humans,just like us he has feelings and has difficulty dealing with his emotions,responsabilities,his basic lifestyle.Plus,he has superpowers,he got the sake of the all world on his shoulders even if he is a stronger being that can be scary sometimes.It would take him alot of courage,sacrifice & compassion to acheve it.He had a good start in the beginning of season 8 until Lana's return,she brought back his insecurity & his desir to live a normal life.Now she's gone for good,you'll see Clark bouncing quickly in superhero mode again and he'll be ready to chase after Lois.Don't worry,I don't she will let herself be the rebound girl.
myankskent
02-09-2009, 02:13 PM
Don't worry,I don't she will let herself be the rebound girl.
I don't think that Lois will have a lot of power in this situation. There's a strong chance that she will be completely oblivious to Clana being together again when she left after "Bride". She might give Clark a hard time when she gets back, but she won't know how Clana broke up so I think that Clark will get a huge break with Lois because of that.
ox007
02-09-2009, 02:17 PM
I hope Lois won't find out the Clana scene from the beginning of Requiem! She would freak out and slap 'Smallville's' face for sure!
skugers
02-09-2009, 02:36 PM
I don't think Lois will know anything of what really happened with Clana. I'm pretty sure Chloe didn't fill her in with the crappy details that we all know cuz she doesn't want to hurt her (and I doubt she even had the time given the fact that she was mostly in Metropolis and not in Star City with her husband, how she was supposed to...).
So I think Lois really beat herself up for the "almost-kiss" in Star City deciding, eventually, to shut herself from Clark when she gets back to Metropolis.
And the ball is in CK's court right now. It's for him to realize what's to realize about his relationship with Lois.
REebee52
02-09-2009, 02:49 PM
I don't think Lois will know anything of what really happened with Clana. I'm pretty sure Chloe didn't fill her in with the crappy details that we all know cuz she doesn't want to hurt her (and I doubt she even had the time given the fact that she was mostly in Metropolis and not in Star City with her husband, how she was supposed to...).
So I think Lois really beat herself up for the "almost-kiss" in Star City deciding, eventually, to shut herself from Clark when she gets back to Metropolis.
And the ball is in CK's court right now. It's for him to realize what's to realize about his relationship with Lois.
I think it will be interesting if she doesn't find out right away, but does find out eventually. After all he was about to kiss her, and that's essentially the last time they saw each other besides a brief goodbye in the hospital (which, by the way, was so big of Lois, both going to see Jimmy and stepping aside for Lana, if only for the moment. I really like Smallville's Lois Lane...)
I can't decide if I'm glad she wasn't there for the Lana-arc. It would kind of me an all-too-typical TV love triangle. Plus we'd either see Lois being mopey or Lois being a biatch. This move allowed Lois to look like someone who cared for Clark more than herself.
Clark might not share the same sentiment, yet, but he will. Give it time.
skugers
02-09-2009, 02:51 PM
I think it will be interesting if she doesn't find out right away, but does find out eventually. After all he was about to kiss her, and that's essentially the last time they saw each other besides a brief goodbye in the hospital (which, by the way, was so big of Lois, both going to see Jimmy and stepping aside for Lana, if only for the moment. I really like Smallville's Lois Lane...)
I can't decide if I'm glad she wasn't there for the Lana-arc. It would kind of me an all-too-typical TV love triangle. Plus we'd either see Lois being mopey or Lois being a biatch. This move allowed Lois to look like someone who cared for Clark more than herself.
Clark might not share the same sentiment, yet, but he will. Give it time.
ITA.:)
Let's look at the motives and results for this ep, starting with failures:
Attempt at Clana Closure = Fail
Attempt at Series Nostalgia = Mild Fail (I'm giving them the necklace and that's it)
Attempt at Appeasing Clana Shippers = Fail
Attempt at Continuity = Fail
Attempt at Honoring Superman Canon = Fail
Now for the successes:
Attempt at Appeasing the Lana/KK Worshippers = Win!
Attempt at Marketing a Comeback for Wigs = Win!
Attempt at Alienating Cloisers = Win!
Attempt at Defying Logic with Bad/Lazy Writing = Win!
Attempt at Damaging Five Main Chars in One Episode = Win Win!
So you see--the pluses obviously outweighed the minuses in their eyes. ;)
MetropolisGirl4SV
02-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Let's look at the motives and results for this ep, starting with failures:
Attempt at Clana Closure = Fail
Attempt at Series Nostalgia = Mild Fail (I'm giving them the necklace and that's it)
Attempt at Appeasing Clana Shippers = Fail
Attempt at Continuity = Fail
Attempt at Honoring Superman Canon = Fail
Now for the successes:
Attempt at Appeasing the Lana/KK Worshippers = Win!
Attempt at Marketing a Comeback for Wigs = Win!
Attempt at Alienating Cloisers = Win!
Attempt at Defying Logic with Bad/Lazy Writing = Win!
Attempt at Damaging Five Main Chars in One Episode = Win Win!
So you see--the pluses obviously outweighed the minuses in their eyes. ;)
:rotfl:
skylar
02-09-2009, 04:54 PM
PS3
devilneedsaride
02-09-2009, 06:13 PM
Let's look at the motives and results for this ep, starting with failures:
Attempt at Clana Closure = Fail
Attempt at Series Nostalgia = Mild Fail (I'm giving them the necklace and that's it)
Attempt at Appeasing Clana Shippers = Fail
Attempt at Continuity = Fail
Attempt at Honoring Superman Canon = Fail
Now for the successes:
Attempt at Appeasing the Lana/KK Worshippers = Win!
Attempt at Marketing a Comeback for Wigs = Win!
Attempt at Alienating Cloisers = Win!
Attempt at Defying Logic with Bad/Lazy Writing = Win!
Attempt at Damaging Five Main Chars in One Episode = Win Win!
So you see--the pluses obviously outweighed the minuses in their eyes. ;)
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
It's funny because it's true.
supercatmom
02-18-2009, 12:33 AM
I totally distrust ps3 now.
After the comment in Legion about no glasses, no tights and no flights, I thought this is great, ps3 is poking fun and laughing at themselves. I now think they are laughing at us.
They are saying that there will never be glasses, tights or flights on SV. So take that and live with it.
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