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bennyjr123
01-29-2009, 08:53 PM
People are putting this down with sleeper? Are you serious? Okay, did you all hate it because it was really that terrible, or because you hate Lana and everything she stands for? Before I start this, i'd just like to say, no, im not a hardcore Clana shipper or a super Lana fan. (lol the only character i love unconditionally is chloe :D)

Anyways, I know everyones entitled to their own opinion, but i've noticed that people are real quick to say, IM DONE WITH THIS SHOW, I HATE IT NOW! And for what? For one mistake? And, could someone explain to me what was really wrong with this episode? I didn't see Clark take any steps back. So as far as messing up the Superman mythos goes, i'd say nothing really went wrong. Let's pretend for a second that there is no mythos. That smallville is completely original all in it's own. Would you feel the same way about this ep? Are we all just really mad simply because the Lana in this show doesn't match up to the Lana in the comics? I don't know how to explain it, but it's almost like, I'd rather have Lana go off this way, than be helpless and have Clark having to worry about her all the time. Ugh, I can't write it out, it's too hard, so this probably all seems really scattered, and you probly don't see the point to this. But, ummmm...yeah, someone please answer one of the 100 questions i asked. lol

celita
01-29-2009, 08:56 PM
Sleeper deserves an EMMY.....

lm1212
01-29-2009, 08:58 PM
Its really is that bad. But I won't give up on Smallville though.

theotherJane
01-29-2009, 08:58 PM
It was worse than Sleeper. And why? Because it's rehash of stories we've all seen a hundred times before.
Lana already had superpowers.
Clana broke up then made up many times before.
Clark gave Chloe a hard time (yet again) for keeping secrets about Lana. (Already happened in S6 Hydro)

tyson08
01-29-2009, 08:59 PM
Lana thinking she's equal to Clark Kent, horrible.

paolinki25
01-29-2009, 08:59 PM
Not only Clana, but the stupidity of the episode itself. Lana with SuperPowers? Really? I mean, couldn't they bring KK and give her a decent closure or storyline? Why does Lana have to be martyr? Why can't she just be a regular, faulty, human being?

nede
01-29-2009, 09:00 PM
there is no way! that SLEEPER WAS BETTER THAN POWER, I DONT SEE THAT...power was pretty good, to me, its just because we already seen lana go through this crap with clark that people want something new but i dont see how ppl can compare power with sleeper...


sleeper..did wat it was supposed 2 do....made me go to sleep

zorasuperman
01-29-2009, 09:02 PM
Superman's story is to move on from his high school sweet heart (aka lana lang) to his true love lois lane. but beside that, put lana lang, lois lane, even chloe sullivan etc every1 aside even lex! clark kent is supposed to be saving people by HIMSELF

superman has never and i mean never in any comics saved ppl with lana by his side. that is just unthinkable . please ps3 what were u thinking having lana having superpowers and THEN thinking that she was worthy of doing the work that superman does! saving ppl is SUPERMAN'S JOB not lana langs.

ClarkyBoy14
01-29-2009, 09:03 PM
I don't mind Lana, so she isn't neccessarily the reason why I didn't like it.

First off, Clark acted like a jerk for most of this episode; and, no, Clark, Chloe doesn't have to tell you everything. Second, Lana was supposedly brought back to give Clana closure--I don't see that happening. And last, Super!Lana is just weird.

I enjoyed the first part of the episode, where it had the Lana flashbacks. I'm glad she's moving on, and she's over being a victim.

bennyjr123
01-29-2009, 09:03 PM
there is no way! that SLEEPER WAS BETTER THAN POWER, I DONT SEE THAT...power was pretty good, to me, its just because we already seen lana go through this crap with clark that people want something new but i dont see how ppl can compare power with sleeper...


sleeper..did wat it was supposed 2 do....made me go to sleep


lol, thank you!

But the whole, "we've seen Lana with powers before" thing, well....were you paying attention? The point of this episode was her saying, "I can do it better this time. I want to show all you people watching this week that I've matured, and I know how to use them right," But I do agree, that there really is no reason for Lana to have to be a martyr. Their clearly is a difference between giving her good closure, and giving her too much worship. But my point is, if they had to give her worship, im glad they did it this way.

nede
01-29-2009, 09:06 PM
lol...ur welcome

nd ya i did get that she was training to be able to use the powers more maturely and better..but we already have a hero..nd his name is C, to the, L.A.R.K Kent!. ..=)

luvinChlark
01-29-2009, 09:07 PM
Sleeper was way worse. I totally forgot what it was about. But bulletproof sucked and I thought maybe it would get better. Then Power came just horribly written. The whole arc just isn't for me I think. But Sleeper was way worse, just a ridiculous filler episode.

greatodinsbeard
01-29-2009, 09:12 PM
Lana will probably lose the powers anyway next episode, plus In the silver age comics Lana and Jimmy both found ways to get powers but there was this liquid thing, so it is kinda a throw back to that.

As for the episode itself, it was not that engaging and kinda weak but it had it's moments. Tess was awesome in this episode and Visually it was a good episode, the last shot was cool.

Plus I applaud Allison Mack on her first job directing, I think she did a really good job. The script was weak but she made the best of it which is the sign of a good director. If there is a season 9 I hope she directs again.

bennyjr123
01-29-2009, 09:13 PM
Superman's story is to move on from his high school sweet heart (aka lana lang) to his true love lois lane. but beside that, put lana lang, lois lane, even chloe sullivan etc every1 aside even lex! clark kent is supposed to be saving people by HIMSELF

superman has never and i mean never in any comics saved ppl with lana by his side. that is just unthinkable . please ps3 what were u thinking having lana having superpowers and THEN thinking that she was worthy of doing the work that superman does! saving ppl is SUPERMAN'S JOB not lana langs.


Well, to be fairi don't think we can really be mad about this just yet. Really because Lana's leaving next week. If she leaves saying "im gonna save this half of the world now!" then, heck! Tear the smallville writer room apart cuz thats ridiculous! But I have a strong feeling shes gonna leave without powers, or with a completely different mission.

WildGoatTamer
01-29-2009, 09:14 PM
It was worse than Sleeper. And why? Because it's rehash of stories we've all seen a hundred times before.
Lana already had superpowers.
Clana broke up then made up many times before.
Clark gave Chloe a hard time (yet again) for keeping secrets about Lana. (Already happened in S6 Hydro)

ITA.

In Clark's words, "It's like she never left..."
The only thing I found interesting about this episode was Tess and I liked the whole spin with Lana going all 'army strong' but that kinda got ruined when she got superpowers. I miss the nice sweet Lana of season 1 :(

They really ruined the kickass Lana from Bulletproof with this episode.

BadToad
01-29-2009, 09:14 PM
Sleeper was academy award winning material compared to this episode. And I say that as someone who believes Sleeper was horrible. Somehow, SV found the basement under Sleeper. Its quite the feat. I'm not sure how one finds a level that awful.

miks
01-29-2009, 09:16 PM
I actually didn't mind this episode. I liked that it was Lana focused, and on the good things of Lana, not that I'm forgetting the bad things she's done and she's done a ton, but it was nice to see this side of her. The Clana stuff was meh; but, don't kill me for this, the last scene was gorgeous and I even completely forgot it was Clana. But of course that was probably because of the way AM directed that scene.

smallvillefreak24
01-29-2009, 09:19 PM
This just dissappointed me on a deeper level, i think thats why i really didnt like it. This season was going so well, i had closure on clana (ish) and lana in general, i was accepting clois, clark was being supermanly, and now this.. they just completely wrecked it. why o why did lana come back ( bride good legion decent bulletproof fine) now this, lana is not the savior of the world!!

well for the sake of argument allison did a good job directing
if the storyline wasnt completely horrifying then it would of been actually good
liked tess...
o ya i despise the fact that they are trying to make lex in there
hes gone
not coming back...
deal

Alania
01-29-2009, 09:21 PM
WHAT THE FRICK WAS THAT???!!! Not even pro-active Clark was around!

Dyanara
01-29-2009, 09:27 PM
Great first Clark gets his balls cut figuratively by Lana now he gets his balls cut off literally by Lana getting his powers and wanting to put on matching outfits and got to work together. Good gracious I wasn't even mad at Lana in this episode, the parts before she wanted to turn supergeek were pretty good especially her learning how to go through torture. But good gracious Lana and Clark are now like a bad Valentine's Day Lifetime movie.

redkryptoniteisthebest
01-29-2009, 09:30 PM
Kudo's to your thread. You wrote down what I thought. Just because someone dislikes Clana (in this case, a lot of people), doesn't mean you have to cut down every aspect of this episode. Its really getting annoying.

6-Super-Man -5
01-29-2009, 09:31 PM
The episode was okay.

Krypto~Luan
01-29-2009, 09:31 PM
It was great, especially after last week

double L
01-29-2009, 09:32 PM
For 2 weeks in a row, the episode ends with Clana, frenching. It is that terrible. This is seaon 8, not season 1.

ledzepfan23
01-29-2009, 09:35 PM
Kudo's to your thread. You wrote down what I thought. Just because someone dislikes Clana (in this case, a lot of people), doesn't mean you have to cut down every aspect of this episode. Its really getting annoying.
i completely agree. Im not a clana fan to any degree but im aware that having clana in an episode doesnt make it bad. Everyone should stop whining about how they didnt like this episode just because Lana was in it. There is more to this episode than just the Clana.

Alicia Chipy
01-29-2009, 09:36 PM
I'm nominating it to be in Science Fiction Theater 3000.
It's worse than Plan 9 from Outer Space AND Santa Claus conquers the Martians!!!!!

tyson08
01-29-2009, 09:36 PM
It's not about Lana being present, it's about what they are doing with her character. She's not Clark's equal, she can change the world without super-powers.

Krypto~Luan
01-29-2009, 09:37 PM
Kudo's to your thread. You wrote down what I thought. Just because someone dislikes Clana (in this case, a lot of people), doesn't mean you have to cut down every aspect of this episode. Its really getting annoying.

OH MY GOD THANK YOU!!!!!


Clana is annoying, but its haters are worse

melissan02
01-29-2009, 09:38 PM
It's official:

Tess Mercer has bigger stones than Clark ever will!!!....Most everyone on the show does but him!!!!!!

Lilah
01-29-2009, 09:40 PM
Sleeper is the Titanic of the Oscars compared to this crap we had to swallow tonight. I got nothing against KK, but the Clana drama is just too Dawson's Creek for me and I left that in the 90's when I was a preteen. I don't want to watch that drama as an adult. Does she love me? Do I love him? I want to be super! Oh give me a break already!! Lana Lang should have stayed in Clark's past just like in the comics....

ledzepfan23
01-29-2009, 09:40 PM
Sleeper is the Titanic of the Oscars compared to this crap we had to swallow tonight. I got nothing against KK, but the Clana drama is just too Dawson's Creek for me and I left that in the 90's when I was a preteen. I don't want to watch that drama as an adult. Does she love me? Do I love him? I want to be super! Oh give me a break already!! Lana Lang should have stayed in Clark's past just like in the comics....
So having Clana in this episode makes it bad?

redkryptoniteisthebest
01-29-2009, 09:44 PM
OH MY GOD THANK YOU!!!!!


Clana is annoying, but its haters are worse

:lol:

warriorrenegade
01-29-2009, 09:47 PM
I think maybe now we can stop bashing SDK for Ageless....another episode has taken it's place. Seriously people it WAS that terrible!

paolinki25
01-29-2009, 09:49 PM
I think maybe now we can stop bashing SDK for Ageless....another episode has taken it's place. Seriously people it WAS that terrible!

:lol: True. We gave so much crap to poor SDK, but this episode is definitely a winner among the worst ever.

SmallvilleMan
01-29-2009, 09:52 PM
So having Clana in this episode makes it bad?

You guessed it........Why do you think the other one being mentioned is ageless?

kszonew
01-29-2009, 09:52 PM
I thought this episode was average, like most this season, at least to me personally. I really don't care for the Clark/Lana stuff, but I think they are giving it closure and moving on from it. I don't think it's ment to be a degression. What concerns me is what they might do to the character of Lex.

I'm just not a big fan of this "super human armor". Not crazy about it being on Lana, sure as heck don't want to see a character that was wonderfully written for most of 7 years as a human villian of manipulation and intelligance turned into a dermal skin suit freak with super powers and a chrome head. I just get a bad feeling that's where there headed in the long run.

In general I've loved Clark's character growth from earlier this season, but the rest just isn't pulling me in. Lex's 7 year descent into a bad guy was wonderful, Clark's growth into the hero he will be has been slow, but not as bad as some people make it out to be. That right there was the core of the show, and along with it many other great things that lured fans in and made them love it. Some original concepts, some nods to the comics. Now it just seems like they are, at times, trying too hard to please the comic fans, while almost going backwards in other ways.

Lilah
01-29-2009, 09:53 PM
So having Clana in this episode makes it bad?

No... not Clana.... Just a Super-powered Lana Lang... and that kiss.... I have to say.... that was a perfect shot just the wrong place and the wrong time....

And I'm not saying it should have been saved for Clois.... I'm saying it should have been saved for SuperClark when he first took flight (whenever that maybe). He's regressed so much in the last few weeks we're getting him doing less and less superhero stuff.... Legion he saved the world with help of course:D (GREAT episode), Bulletproof he helped a man get back to the right side (something very Clark Kent or Superman thing to do, also a good episode... I liked it...) but tonight... did he save anyone... we saw him super speed once to find Lana and use x-ray once in the Talon apartment.... he didn't even really save her.... He did nothing heroic in this episode, only feel sorry for himself and be pathetic for 42 mins.... B-O-R-I-N-G... and that is why I HATED this episode...

ledzepfan23
01-29-2009, 09:53 PM
I dont think having Clana automatically makes it a bad episode. I am not a clana fan at all, im saying there was more to this episode than just a relationship.

Krypto~Luan
01-29-2009, 09:54 PM
I dont think having Clana automatically makes it a bad episode. I am not a clana fan at all, im saying there was more to this episode than just a relationship.

You are correct sir!

paolinki25
01-29-2009, 09:57 PM
Of course it wasn't only Clana. Clana has had good episodes (especially back in season 1 and some of season 2), but this stupidity with Lana having Superpowers and wanting to be Clark's Robin is just bad. Plain bad, recycled writing.

xrayvision
01-29-2009, 09:57 PM
Great first Clark gets his balls cut figuratively by Lana now he gets his balls cut off literally by Lana getting his powers and wanting to put on matching outfits and got to work together. Good gracious I wasn't even mad at Lana in this episode, the parts before she wanted to turn supergeek were pretty good especially her learning how to go through torture. But good gracious Lana and Clark are now like a bad Valentine's Day Lifetime movie.

Haha, you made several good points. That suggestion at the end about the 2 working together as superheroes reminded me of an episode of That 70's Show where Jackie has a fantasy of herself and Hyde as cheerleaders in matching his-her uniforms. In this case, Clark would go from potentially becoming Superman to becoming one half of the Wonder Twins.

Theshadow129x
01-29-2009, 09:58 PM
i was seriously getting a headache at the massive SUCK in this episode. I'm tired of this Lana crap.

Clois4eva89
01-29-2009, 10:03 PM
This eppy was so lame when I get the Season 8 Dvd in the future.I'm going to skip the lana arch,and pretend Allison Mack directed a better episode.Because Allison is too talented for a goose egg of a story like this. Infact the goodbye Clark video will from now on,be how lana left Clark,because the explanation the gave us. Made no senese at all thanks alot guys for cheapening another season *note that last part was sarcasim*

ledzepfan23
01-29-2009, 10:09 PM
This eppy was so lame when I get the Season 8 Dvd in the future.I'm going to skip the lana arch,and pretend Allison Mack directed a better episode.Because Allison is too talented for a goose egg of a story like this. Infact the goodbye Clark video will from now on,be how lana left Clark,because the explanation the gave us. Made no senese at all thanks alot guys for cheapening another season *note that last part was sarcasim*
How did the explanation make no sense?

MetropolisGirl4SV
01-29-2009, 10:25 PM
First off Smallville is supposedly a show about Clark Kent and his journey to become Superman. Superman who instills faith and hope and protects the innocent etc etc... Some how the writers managed to turn this into some sort of circus act.

Clark goes from being strong one minute to weak and indecisive the next

- I love her, I love her not, I love her I lover her not...pulling petals of daises= Clark Kent

Lana is so insecure that the only way she feels she can measure up is to have super powers that they attempted in previous episodes but never ended up well.
Lana's character has been through hell and more since season six and is frankly degrading her character

Why did Lana even keep the conversation of her and the doctor on her hard drive what idiocy!

Chloe is not with her hubby in star city but is having the time of her life in metropolis!

Tess kills Reagan horrifically for some this was the highlight of the episode

Oh wait and the best...they took a Iconic Superman and Lois scene and handed it over on a silver platter to Lana...Oh well who cares:\

I'm sure there is more I can think of but I'm so disappointed with the writing...I can't think properly

I'm not a Lana hater...I was fine that she came back in Bride even though it did ruin a great kiss. I wasn't ready for the romantic Lois and Clark. I wanted closure for Clark and Lana. I was even fine with her in Legion standing up on her own feet being strong and what not. I was ok with her in Bulletproof since it was Clark who went to the Talon to have Lana back anyways. But this in Power has totally screwed up the Sweet Lana Lang that I knew in the beginning of SV sadley shes taken Clark down with her!:\:\

Sleeper deserves a Oscar when compared with Power at least it had some comic relief even if I did fall asleep at least I was able to watch it again.

Clois4eva89
01-29-2009, 10:31 PM
How did the explanation make no sense?

Having us believe all the time lana's goodbye video,was because she didn't want to get in the way. Of Clark's destiny and need for the world,until now she's said to Clark: The world needs you. Now we find out she only did the video because Lex's flunkies had her at gun point.

Cyn
01-29-2009, 10:39 PM
I saw previously on Suckville and then I saw SUPERCOOL TESS! I didn't see anything else. If I had, I would probably have had to poke out my own eyeballs.

Thank God there is finally going to be another new episode in March. January who? (Piss on the ghost of Millar/Gough!) It will only have been like 3 months between decent new episodes.

thehenry89
01-29-2009, 10:42 PM
I saw previously on Suckville and then I saw SUPERCOOL TESS! I didn't see anything else. If I had, I would probably have had to poke out my own eyeballs.

Thank God there is finally going to be another new episode in March. January who? (Piss on the ghost of Millar/Gough!) It will only have been like 3 months between decent new episodes.

I like the way you think

MrZeppo
01-29-2009, 11:25 PM
Even I have to admit I didn't like this episode. And I loved every other episode until this one.

Director-wise, I think this is a damn fine first attempt on Allison's part. I know how hard it is to be a Director, but she did a good job.

Storywise, this episode was a disappointment. Clark's character was very inconsistant through the whole episode. First he wants Lana, then he doesn't, then he does... God, it's like I relived Season 2-4 in one hour!

She pretty much told him she feels like she held him back, that she's proud of his life, that the world needs him more than he needs her, etc etc. And I found that to be very mature and I liked that. After watching Lana for years, being infuriated with how she was written, I was getting some serious character growth. For YEARS, Lana has been defined by who she was with. It seemed very needy too. Whitney, Clark, Jason, Lex, etc. And this was the first time I saw her really alone. And it had looked like she had grown more as a person in the last few months than she has in the years prior.

While it didn't make up for some of the almost painful Clana storylines of years past, it was progress, it felt a little like closure. It made me like Lana. Because her world didn't seem like it was all about Clark.

This episode completely negated that. All the growth I saw seems for naught. Throughout this whole episode, the idea they passed onto us was Lana moving on to a destiny all her own, and by episode's end she's talking about being a superfighting duo with Clark because now they are equals.

Seriously, it makes her sound like she has an inferiority complex. Lex and her are equals, Clark and her are equals, what is her deal about being equals all the time? What, you need superpowers to make a difference? Ollie proves that wrong every time he puts on his GA outfit. Police, firefighters, and soldiers do it everyday.

I didn't like this Lana storyline. Ever since she got back she held Clark at arms length. That they weren't meant to be together, but now that she has powers, they can be? Ugh. At least if they were going down this route they could have her at least indicate some interest on her part in continuing with Clark instead of pushing him away in the last couple episodes.

I understand KK wants something meaty to come back to, I even said she deserved as much, but this doesn't seem like any growth at all. I would have been fine with this whole storyline. With her coming back. Her getting powers, all of it. But that last scene on top of the Daily Planet ruined it. Because to me it looks like Lana is still defining herself by Clark again. She felt inferior, like she couldn't make a difference without powers, and got powers so she could be on his level. And this she doesn't want him, she wants him thing killed me.

They only way I can even kind of excuse any of this is if Lana was holding Clark at arm's length because she didn't know if she would survive the procedure. So she wanted to wait until afterwards to really show she wants him too. But that isn't the case because she admitted tonight she held him at arm's length because she knew he would stop her.

Blah. And I'm not even a huge Lana fan. I was hoping with KK coming back that Lana had grown, and I won't say she hasn't grown, but she's still very much defining herself by Clark.

The only part of the episode I really liked was Tess. Holey Hannah, what a badass bitty, love her! I say we give her powers and tights next, that I would likey. :)

1 star out of 5. And that star is for Tess only.

ginnyfan
01-29-2009, 11:27 PM
Uh... I don't think it was as bad as Sleeper... but it was bad. If Clark had been more proactive and less reactive... it would have made all the difference in this episode. He just seemed dopey.

pizzahead2490
01-29-2009, 11:28 PM
its was soo bad i hardly paid attenshion to what was going on it the show

SGuthrie27
01-29-2009, 11:28 PM
It was not that horrible, no. There are plenty of episodes that are WAY worse than this one... Thirst, Craving, Redux, Nocturne... I can't think of any others right now, but I know there are more. This is just one part of an extended story arc that's soon to end. It accomplished some necessary things in showing us what really happened to Lana and what choices she's made since leaving Smallville in Season 7, so for that alone, it wasn't the most terrible episode ever written. Could I have done without so much Clana shoved down my throat? Yes. Am I going to die because of the quality of this single episode? Nope.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

victory01
01-29-2009, 11:30 PM
First off Smallville is supposedly a show about Clark Kent and his journey to become Superman. Superman who instills faith and hope and protects the innocent etc etc... Some how the writers managed to turn this into some sort of circus act.

Clark goes from being strong one minute to weak and indecisive the next

- I love her, I love her not, I love her I lover her not...pulling petals of daises= Clark Kent

Lana is so insecure that the only way she feels she can measure up is to have super powers that they attempted in previous episodes but never ended up well.
Lana's character has been through hell and more since season six and is frankly degrading her character

Why did Lana even keep the conversation of her and the doctor on her hard drive what idiocy!

Chloe is not with her hubby in star city but is having the time of her life in metropolis!

Tess kills Reagan horrifically for some this was the highlight of the episode

Oh wait and the best...they took a Iconic Superman and Lois scene and handed it over on a silver platter to Lana...Oh well who cares:\

I'm sure there is more I can think of but I'm so disappointed with the writing...I can't think properly

I'm not a Lana hater...I was fine that she came back in Bride even though it did ruin a great kiss. I wasn't ready for the romantic Lois and Clark. I wanted closure for Clark and Lana. I was even fine with her in Legion standing up on her own feet being strong and what not. I was ok with her in Bulletproof since it was Clark who went to the Talon to have Lana back anyways. But this in Power has totally screwed up the Sweet Lana Lang that I knew in the beginning of SV sadley shes taken Clark down with her!:\:\

Sleeper deserves a Oscar when compared with Power at least it had some comic relief even if I did fall asleep at least I was able to watch it again.


Couldn't have put it any better myself if I tried.

SGuthrie27
01-29-2009, 11:30 PM
P.S. I would HARDLY say that Chloe's having "the time of her life in Metropolis." She's been with Jimmy probably nonstop when she's off-screen -- she's been seen heading either to or from the hospital in the previous two episodes. She had to help Clark find Lana in this episode, so I don't think that was necessarily a goof on the writers' part (though I'm not really sure why she randomly showed up at Clark's house at the beginning though -- did we ever hear the real purpose for her visit?) Maybe she just needed some air.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

P.S. Speaking of Sleeper (as many of you are), I'd better get some sleep myself. Good night!

Cogito17
01-29-2009, 11:37 PM
It wasn't that bad, but it was Lana-centric, so somewhat doomed to bashing from "fans" before it even aired. Though many of the characters have episodes focused around them (Ollie = Toxic, Chloe = Abyss, etc.), I predicted this one would get bashed the hardest.

I don't think Clark was exactly reactive as someone suggested. He hunted down all the clues and was finally able to track down Lana. If it had been Lois or Chloe he had been tracking down, people would be gushing about how concerned/intense he was in his pursuit to save them. But I don't necessarily see how he wasn't proactive this episode.

As with Bulletproof, the only real "Clana" scene was the final two minutes of the episode, but it still remains a heavy point of discussion/focus. I don't mind the ending scene in and of itself, but since it is known that Lana is leaving after the next episode, I don't really see how they plan to give any kind of satisfying closure to that relationship, especially if they want to pick back up with Clark/Lois romance.

miks
01-29-2009, 11:44 PM
^^ Completely agree. I didn't see Clark regressing at all. He searched and got clues; he investigated! But because it's about Lana, everything must be bad..

Theshadow129x
01-29-2009, 11:47 PM
It was regressing to Clark....he started to second guess his decision again when he should be able to deal with the fact that him and lana were figuring things out. he took time to rewatch lana "dear clark" video and say "why am i doing this" when he made a conscious decision to be with her again. thats regressing

miks
01-29-2009, 11:49 PM
It's regressing because he's rethinking things? That's not regression. Has Clark stopped working? Has he stopped fighting criminals? Has he stopped using his powers? No. Until he does, which I don't think will be in the next episode, he's not regressing.

claudiss
01-29-2009, 11:51 PM
No ,it wasn`t THAT terrible imo.

Sunny8
01-30-2009, 09:19 AM
Yes it was really that terrible.

moviefan2k4
01-30-2009, 09:39 AM
After skimming the last page-and-a-half or so, it seems like most people with complaints are doing so because they believe that Lana defining herself by Clark's standard tarnishes her character. I feel compelled to remind you all that because this is ultimately about Clark's path, every character is defined by their interactions with him, in many respects. Here's just a few examples...

1) Jonathan & Martha Kent's lives were transformed for the better by adopting Clark. they went from simple farmers who were childless to loving, determined parents with more than one mission to fulfill.

2) Lex Luthor's on/off friendship with Clark started out with curiosity, but eventually became a disillusioned hatred for him. Secrecy and a lust for power played huge roles in that arc, as evidenced by the final moments of "Arctic".

3) Lana Lang's parents were killed by a meteor that entered Earth's atmosphere with Clark's ship. the ensuing (false) responsibility he believed in, and constant fear from both of them, have resulted in the whole "star-crossed lovers" kind of deal, neither one knowing how to keep it going long-term.

4) Pete Ross and Chloe Sullivn went from casual school friends in Clark's life to trusted confidantes, who proved themselves trustworthy more than once. While the stress of Clark's secret eventually drove Pete away, he did return to make amends. Chloe's experiences have transformed her from an adolescent "journalist-in-training" to a strong, smart, and compassionate young woman, who serves as Clark's "anchor" to his enduring humanity.

The list goes on and on...

red_sun1938
01-30-2009, 09:48 AM
I'm no Lana fan by any stretch but watching this episode was like deliberatly stabbing myself with a knife. The story was absolutely pointless. The story does nothing to advance Clark at all. If anything he has regressed to where he was stuck for 7 seasons. So, looking at it from a Clark prospective, this episode was a huge stepbackwards from all the good work he's done this season to grow into the hero that he is destined to become.

Lilah
01-30-2009, 11:44 AM
I can count on my hand the amounts of time Clark was even on the screen... it was mostly Lana the whole hour... Why not just give her a spinoff... Life After Smallville: The Lana Lang Story... so all her fans can watch what she's been up to because frankly, I couldn't care less! They took away five perfectly good sized episodes and turned them to dog poo!

Viper2369
01-30-2009, 12:28 PM
People are putting this down with sleeper? Are you serious? Okay, did you all hate it because it was really that terrible, or because you hate Lana and everything she stands for? Before I start this, i'd just like to say, no, im not a hardcore Clana shipper or a super Lana fan. (lol the only character i love unconditionally is chloe :D)

Anyways, I know everyones entitled to their own opinion, but i've noticed that people are real quick to say, IM DONE WITH THIS SHOW, I HATE IT NOW! And for what? For one mistake? And, could someone explain to me what was really wrong with this episode? I didn't see Clark take any steps back. So as far as messing up the Superman mythos goes, i'd say nothing really went wrong. Let's pretend for a second that there is no mythos. That smallville is completely original all in it's own. Would you feel the same way about this ep? Are we all just really mad simply because the Lana in this show doesn't match up to the Lana in the comics? I don't know how to explain it, but it's almost like, I'd rather have Lana go off this way, than be helpless and have Clark having to worry about her all the time. Ugh, I can't write it out, it's too hard, so this probably all seems really scattered, and you probly don't see the point to this. But, ummmm...yeah, someone please answer one of the 100 questions i asked. lol


I thought it was just an average episode. Like most, I don't agree with Lana getting super powers, but at the same time I will wait and see where they go with this. I believe this can be a big push to his ultimate destiny and I can picture this in my head, just not sure I will be able to put my thoughts into words, but here goes.

This could just be a closure for Lana or it could be closure for Lana as well as sticking to the overall theme of this season which is pushing him to becoming the Hero we all know. This was initially started by Oliver/GA, with his lectures of "you aren't using your abilities for anything other than the trouble that lands in your lap." Clarke has seen the good that GA has done and has started helping people himself (He even mentioned it in this episode, the fact that he has done a lot of good since Lana left). And now Lana is using her resources to help people and to improve her power to help people (some think she be corrupted by the power, but let's not forget Saturn girl's statement about how Lana is destined for great things). The catch here is that Oliver and Lana are still human and they are still vulnerable, Clarke knows this and as pointed out many times, he feels he has to protect them because of that.

So if they are sticking with the overall theme of the season here, he should come to a couple of revelations. One, both of them are more than capable of taking care of themselves, and he doesn't have to be watching over their shoulder all the time. Two, he sees two ordinary humans go through all these trials to become something better so that they can help people, yet no matter how good they get he realizes he has more power/abilities than either of them. Therefore his capacity to do good is greater than anyone and he finally sees this and realizes that this is his destiny.

And a small side note here, as a Superman fan, I am just as ready as anyone to see him fly and to become Superman, but keep in mind, once they do that the show is over. There will be no need to keep Smallville going. So while this season they are pushing towards that, if they hurry it up too much, there will definitely be no need for a season 9. Now, IMO, they could have him flying before he becomes Superman though :)

sari_chem
01-30-2009, 05:49 PM
I actually liked this episode (please, don't throw tomatoes at me, :p).

I really like the fact that Lana didn't leave the break up DVD of her own volition. It was funny when Tess asked Clark how he thought Lana could have gotten a hold of a video camera after coming out of her coma. (It's something most of us wondered as well).

The only thing I didn't like was the super powers. I really do like Lana, but I don't want her with super powers. She can do some good in the world without them. I find that aspect of the plot very contrived.

Tompouce
01-30-2009, 05:54 PM
Not only Clana, but the stupidity of the episode itself. Lana with SuperPowers? Really? I mean, couldn't they bring KK and give her a decent closure or storyline? Why does Lana have to be martyr? Why can't she just be a regular, faulty, human being?
ITA, you have found the right explanation, thanks : the stupidity of the episode itself.
I can forget everything about this epi as long as we can see the hero, CLARK in his show. Clark, come back, we need you and it is not Lana who tells it :D

woolanayu
01-30-2009, 05:59 PM
Quote from sari chem: The only thing I didn't like was the super powers. I really do like Lana, but I don't want her with super powers. She can do some good in the world without them. I find that aspect of the plot very contrived.

^^maybe they have to give lana lang super power to end her arc and let chloe runs the isis as she is the lead female in S8

so...chloe's out of DP to give way for clark, lana will be gone by 'super hero send-off kind of way' to give way for chloe to be in the isis

borednow
01-30-2009, 06:05 PM
Okay, was this really THAT terrible?
Yes... yes it was

shark87
01-30-2009, 06:13 PM
For me, this was one of the most exiting episodes this year. So full of action and surprises. Bravo to PS3! It got me interested from the minute i saw it till the end. I'm sure you people hate it just because this Clana stuff. And it wasn't a rewriting. This time she was prepeared. She always wanted to help the world and not being protected by Clark. Now she finely have a chance to do it on her way. This just makes perfect sence to me. And a writing this year is just amazing!

Tompouce
01-30-2009, 06:15 PM
Yes... yes it was
LOOOL, it was my first idea as an anwer:D

Tatiana
01-30-2009, 06:17 PM
People are putting this down with sleeper? Are you serious? Okay, did you all hate it because it was really that terrible, or because you hate Lana and everything she stands for? Before I start this, i'd just like to say, no, im not a hardcore Clana shipper or a super Lana fan. (lol the only character i love unconditionally is chloe :D)

Anyways, I know everyones entitled to their own opinion, but i've noticed that people are real quick to say, IM DONE WITH THIS SHOW, I HATE IT NOW! And for what? For one mistake? And, could someone explain to me what was really wrong with this episode? I didn't see Clark take any steps back. So as far as messing up the Superman mythos goes, i'd say nothing really went wrong. Let's pretend for a second that there is no mythos. That smallville is completely original all in it's own. Would you feel the same way about this ep? Are we all just really mad simply because the Lana in this show doesn't match up to the Lana in the comics? I don't know how to explain it, but it's almost like, I'd rather have Lana go off this way, than be helpless and have Clark having to worry about her all the time. Ugh, I can't write it out, it's too hard, so this probably all seems really scattered, and you probly don't see the point to this. But, ummmm...yeah, someone please answer one of the 100 questions i asked. lol


I don't really hate Lana as everybody else does, but I hated that she compared herself to Clark and said they were now equals. She will never be like him, she is a liar and greedy, she might have the right reasons...just maybe cuz I am not so sure she wants all that power to save the world. I understand her not wanting to be weak anymore because of what she went thru, but I don't like how she handles herself with power. It goes to her head and she doesn't make the hero choices. I don't know, it was just yucky and I hated Clark's reaction in the end, he doesn't question anything she does, he looked very dumb

marcella
01-30-2009, 06:21 PM
The episode was awful

borednow
01-30-2009, 06:21 PM
I don't really hate Lana as everybody else does, but I hated that she compared herself to Clark and said they were now equals. She will never be like him, she is a liar and greedy, she might have the right reasons...just maybe cuz I am not so sure she wants all that power to save the world. I understand her not wanting to be weak anymore because of what she went thru, but I don't like how she handles herself with power. It goes to her head and she doesn't make the hero choices. I don't know, it was just yucky and I hated Clark's reaction in the end, he doesn't question anything she does, he looked very dumb

I'm right there with you...

susangail
01-30-2009, 11:10 PM
Lana was creepy. Clark looked afraid. It was pretty bad.

Liquid-Prince
01-30-2009, 11:17 PM
No, it was fine. People will hate on any recent Lana focused episode.

joel_welling93
01-31-2009, 12:02 AM
Power is a really good eppy IMO... Not half-as bad as Sleeper... I guess the Lana haters just really hate this eppy because its about Lana... But I have to admit, Im kinda' tired of the Clana thing their doing, I mean I want them just to stay friends and that's it... I also didn't really like the fact they gave Lana powers again...

Other than that it was an awesome eppy!! I love the fact that they explained the "Dear John" video, and how she got her hands on a video camera so easily... I also loved the fact that Lana chose to change herself, as if what she was forced to say in the video had made sense to her and gave her a sense of realisation...

Im glad Lana has grown up... But the super-powered thing was just a little over-the-top... i mean 5 episode's is all we have and they stretch the arc too far...

I feel they should have made Lana try to stop Project Prometheus, for the good of mankind, but not hunger for power to be Clark's equal.... Her storyline should have been more subtle....

But I would rate this episode a 8 out of 10!! I Loved it!!! And no, IMO, it wasn't at all as bad as Sleeper......

*dumb theory here*

But maybe they gave her a super-powers to kill her? Then that would make more sense, but I hope Im wrong!!! It would also make sense that Chloe then changed her name to Lana Lang after that, maybe that's why Chloe isn't known in the future, but Lana is!! *gasps!!* Nah! My imagination is running wild.. lol...

scifigirl
01-31-2009, 12:06 AM
It was not that horrible, no. There are plenty of episodes that are WAY worse than this one... Thirst, Craving, Redux, Nocturne... I can't think of any others right now, but I know there are more. This is just one part of an extended story arc that's soon to end. It accomplished some necessary things in showing us what really happened to Lana and what choices she's made since leaving Smallville in Season 7, so for that alone, it wasn't the most terrible episode ever written. Could I have done without so much Clana shoved down my throat? Yes. Am I going to die because of the quality of this single episode? Nope.

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

ITA I am down with your level headed attitude.

Meteror Freak
01-31-2009, 12:29 AM
People had it out for this episode and every other lana centered episode for weeks before it even aired! I knew before I even looked at the forums that everyone would hate it, because they already did before they saw it!

Theshadow129x
01-31-2009, 12:35 AM
People had it out for this episode and every other lana centered episode for weeks before it even aired! I knew before I even looked at the forums that everyone would hate it, because they already did before they saw it!

this isnt true. we arent out to hate her just to hate her. the reason why people tend to is because she is inconsistent and used as plot device. this episode proves my point.

Savo
01-31-2009, 12:51 AM
Yes, it was that terrible. Don't get me wrong, I've seen episodes that were just so so or a little on the silly side...but those episodes still had aspects that were enjoyable. Power didn't have a single worthwhile scene in it. It was an utter disaster. By far the worst episode ever. Granted, I'm not a Lana fan, but I didn't mind her appearance at the wedding...but her guest appearance should have lasted no longer than two episodes. And even then, the only purpose for her appearance should have been to get Clark to man up and figure out that he cares about Lois more. The series has taken on a natural progression that was most horribly interrupted by power hungry nano suit invincible Lana...this was not the appropriate time for that little gem of a story line (nor is there any appropriate time for that story line). I just hope that people aren't so turned off by these Lana episodes that they give up on the series altogether...that would be a shame.

Pantalaimon
01-31-2009, 02:09 AM
Really wasn't that bad. But it was one those episodes that had to tie up a lot of loose ends. Only so much you can do with that.

dotsie23
01-31-2009, 02:36 AM
It was not very interesting to me. I just plain didn't like this episode and no I don't hate any of the characters on the show. This one just didn't do it for me.

KrimV
01-31-2009, 02:44 AM
I just thought it was really strange. Lana's sudden craving to have all this power and do some good in the world felt really out of place. It was kinda like watching Heroes season 3 again ;P

badraven
01-31-2009, 05:07 AM
It wasn't that bad. OK- so it wasn't that good either but I just find it a little amusing just how many people disliked this episode and the intensity of that dislike. Now I'll be the first one to admit that is episode, so far, marks the nadir point of the season. It was, flat out- not good. (Worst part for me BTW was when Lana used super-speed to bust out and stop Tess' bullet, I groaned.) But it's just one episode and it wasn't, IMO, even the worst episode of the series. I was able to finish watching it without fast fowarding through it and there has been one episode (and only one) which I just couldn't watch/finish. In the end 'Power' will fade away from our memories and just be an episode that we ignore on the DVD/Blu-ray's and debate about it being the worst episode of the series. The Lana return, less than stellar, storyline this season will be gone after next week. We should all just relax, for as others have said...this too shall pass. :)

Iluvgreen
01-31-2009, 01:31 PM
The only cool thing in this episode was Tess. Everything else was................. THAT BAD.

Ellsbury
01-31-2009, 03:10 PM
Clana has been a mistake for 5 seasons now... I can't believe the writers are still making it again again and again !

tippership commander
01-31-2009, 03:15 PM
lol, thank you!

But the whole, "we've seen Lana with powers before" thing, well....were you paying attention? The point of this episode was her saying, "I can do it better this time. I want to show all you people watching this week that I've matured, and I know how to use them right," But I do agree, that there really is no reason for Lana to have to be a martyr. Their clearly is a difference between giving her good closure, and giving her too much worship. But my point is, if they had to give her worship, im glad they did it this way.

well, i agree, i actually loved the pisode, because she's moving on

Night_Hawk90
01-31-2009, 03:31 PM
i may be new to this forum, but i hear a lot of how good this season has been until lana came back. To be fair there have only been a handful of good episode, odyssey,plastique, prey, and bloodline. Committed, toxic are much worse yet people rave about how great that episode was just because lois lane said she loved clark.

tippership commander
01-31-2009, 03:33 PM
because people are only here for the drama

they are only ntrested in his character's side stories ,and , so, stop watching if lana comes back, or start watching if lois comes back ,despite the fact that it's all to be tied up ,adn wrapped up in the end on a SUPER note...

unlike me, who continues to love episode after episode


it shows you what ppl watch SV for, hahahaha.....

Hopefulsuicide
01-31-2009, 07:01 PM
It was that bad... it was like i'd fallen asleep and had a nightmare about a really bad smallville episode...

I actually liked Lana when she came back in Bride. It seemed she had matured and was going to be the sensible person and stay away from Clana. She seemed to have found herself working for someone in order to bring Lex down. I actually liked her.

And then came Legion, in which everyone told her how important and amazing she was. So what does she do with that? well i guess it makes her sure that her plan is the right thing to do. That being tortured in every way possible so that she can withstand the torture of nearly dying in order to get super human powers because she feels she is too important to the world to not have any powers, is a good idea.

And we are supposed to believe that Clark Kent loves a girl like that. That his impulse having just found all this out is to kiss her? That it's a 'dream' of his!!!!

Was it really that bad? Yes of course it bloody was... even if i was a fan of Clana i'd think this storyline was insane... anyone who decides to give themselves powers is not in the right. no show has ever shown anything like it before. no good person is so arrogant and so selfish that they think they deserve powers more than anyone else in the world.

Tompouce
01-31-2009, 07:05 PM
its was soo bad i hardly paid attenshion to what was going on it the show
I am like you. It is the first time I watch my clock when I watch a SV epi. I wanted to go to the end just to think of next episodes (those after "requiem" to come)and forget forever this "power" mess

pizzahead2490
01-31-2009, 07:08 PM
this episode was bore eyes out with a fork bad

tippership commander
01-31-2009, 07:26 PM
After skimming the last page-and-a-half or so, it seems like most people with complaints are doing so because they believe that Lana defining herself by Clark's standard tarnishes her character. I feel compelled to remind you all that because this is ultimately about Clark's path, every character is defined by their interactions with him, in many respects. Here's just a few examples...

1) Jonathan & Martha Kent's lives were transformed for the better by adopting Clark. they went from simple farmers who were childless to loving, determined parents with more than one mission to fulfill.

2) Lex Luthor's on/off friendship with Clark started out with curiosity, but eventually became a disillusioned hatred for him. Secrecy and a lust for power played huge roles in that arc, as evidenced by the final moments of "Arctic".

3) Lana Lang's parents were killed by a meteor that entered Earth's atmosphere with Clark's ship. the ensuing (false) responsibility he believed in, and constant fear from both of them, have resulted in the whole "star-crossed lovers" kind of deal, neither one knowing how to keep it going long-term.

4) Pete Ross and Chloe Sullivn went from casual school friends in Clark's life to trusted confidantes, who proved themselves trustworthy more than once. While the stress of Clark's secret eventually drove Pete away, he did return to make amends. Chloe's experiences have transformed her from an adolescent "journalist-in-training" to a strong, smart, and compassionate young woman, who serves as Clark's "anchor" to his enduring humanity.

The list goes on and on...
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