Because I was his Equal!!

[Moviemaster08]

wow what a load of crap

Lana Lang actually thinks she is in the same ballpark as lex luthor that is just sad

[Watching Smallville]

Well, that's what Lex and Lana would always say to each other. I don't know. The Lana character always seems like a little girl to me. But that's just me.

[Kal-ed]

I would agree with you, unfortunately the writers and producers actually put Lana on Lex´s ballpark.

[dru-zod2501]

I would agree with you, unfortunately the writers and producers actually put Lana on Lex´s ballpark.
exactly, SV Lana has every bit the potential for twisted deception & evil machination as Lex; even that so-called conscience that separates them is questionable at times

[Sunny8]

exactly, SV Lana has every bit the potential for twisted deception & evil machination as Lex; even that so-called conscience that separates them is questionable at times


Oh. Maybe that's what Lana meant by those words...she was just as evil as Lex. Otherwise, I don't see it.

[zHeN_zHeN]

Whoa. Lana's gone cuckoo...

[Fallen One]

She's out of her delusional, pink mind.

[changer]

well, she's as evil as lex is. however, nowhere near as smart. that's why she always ends up being the "victim".

[FlashInSV]

"His equal" !!

Good god, Lana, delusional much?

[Sunny8]

... however, nowhere near as smart. that's why she always ends up being the "victim".

I know. That's why I was so confused when Tess said Lana had presence and would have had to in order to tame a Luthor. Lana did not tame Lex. Instead he almost destroyed her and helped turn her into a monster. She was his play thing and definitely not his equal in so many areas. Lex wanted her in the first place because she was naive. She was a real trophy wife.

Also, when Lana said that Lex saw someone that he could not control I was wondering what she was talking about. He controlled her even when she was in a relationship with Clark. He manipulated her until he had her where he wanted her. Its laughable when great things are said about her or when she makes statements like she made about being Lex's equal. Lana is just a pretty face with no substance.

[llk6165]

wow what a load of crap

Lana Lang actually thinks she is in the same ballpark as lex luthor that is just sad

becaused Lex recognized the evil in Lana

[Clark/Lois-fan]

"His equal" !!

Good god, Lana, delusional much?

:lol::lol:

[joel_welling93]

Well if you recall, Lana did what no other character did on the show... She managed to framed him for murder, and sent him to jail... And after he got out of jail she held him at gunpoint in Shanghai... She could have killed him if she wanted to but she didn't..... And I quote Lex "...I always knew you were smart Lana, but I never thought you were brilliant..." To me, aside from Lionel Luthor, Lana Lang is next in line to being Lex's equal.... She did tame a Luthor....

[ColdPlay3r]

lanas is defiantly delusional lol

[DGirlLois4Clark]

She wishes. Lana-Fu can do no wrong it seems.
First she is worshipped by Saturn Girl..now this.
What an insult to Lex's character. Honestly its silly to say the least. Next thing, she will be an equal to Darkseid. All Hail the princess Lana. Whatever.

[sithius]

I found it funny. Just another way to showcase Lana as the most wise/strong/devious person on the planet.

Lex from the comics is incredible, and it's laughable that the writers put that bit in there. I guess they've never opened a superman comic book in their life... either that or they love KK a bit too much, who honestly I thought only AlMiles had eyes for.

[Bizarrolover]

I don't know how to interpretate that statement without taking it wrong. Lana has just confessed that she'a a delusional pshycho with no scruples or morals. The fact that she compares herself with a man that was capable of doing what he did to her speaks of how low she sank in her own eyes and how dangerous she is. REally, not a wise thing to say.

[Jedimaster_TTBaby]

"His Equal :confused:?" and here i was thinking Lex just wanted to hook up with Lana to spite Clark and prove he could have everything he had...oh well :\

[Hopefulsuicide]

why do they have to put ANY character on a pedestal like that, constantly bigging them up? let alone LANA!

and no, she is in NO WAY Lex's equal... she is a young girl who got screwed around by getting involved in a relatinship with a dangerous older man. and while that may have taken away her naivety and caused her to get her hands a little dirty in the process of trying to get him to pay for what he did to her, so has no were near the power or the ferocity of Lex...

this is what happens when all the other characters on the show fall about worshipping one... that one character actually starts believing they are better than other people

[jimmyolsenblues]

lex luthor is supposed to be the greatest criminal mind of our time...and lana serves coffee.......

[Mickey_Bickey]

The only thing brilliant about Lana-Fu is that she's leaving SV for good in 2 episodes.:lol:

No, she's no equal to Lex Luthor. It's amazing how Tess was in "awe" of her last night. Tess' character is in awe of nobody, but the writers once again had to push this "how great Lana Lang" is on all the viewers.

I wonder who will glorify her next week? Do we have any spoilers for that?:lol:

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lex luthor is supposed to be the greatest criminal mind of our time...and lana serves coffee.......


Like I said last night in the live thread.......

She's always be just a common coffee clerk!!:lol:

[davidpg]

I've said it before. I'm sure that this Lana is not the "real" Lana, but one of Lex' clones.

Before the series end, this will be revealed and the"real" Lana will emerge, all innocent and nice, and unknowing of Clark's secret.

This will also completely cement Clark and Lois' relationship, and all will be well with the Superman mythos.

[minerva73]

^Lana's leaving in two weeks. What's the point of unveiling some clone story in the last two weeks and then having her go away forever? Making Lana a clone at this point in her episode run would be rather foolish and a big slap in the face IMO. Then there'd be no closure for Clana... :\

[Mickey_Bickey]

^Lana's leaving in two weeks. What's the point of unveiling some clone story in the last two weeks and then having her go away forever? Making Lana a clone at this point in her episode run would be rather foolish and a big slap in the face IMO. Then there'd be no closure for Clana... :\

Actually, if she were a clone, why would she sabotage Luthorcorp? I think this is the real Lana, even though she's barely recognizable with all her new skills that she's mastered in 7 months.

[DGirlLois4Clark]

Lana-Fu needs to depart smallville ASAP. Enough already with this character worship. How the heck is she an equal to a criminal master mind?

[davidpg]

I don't think she even knows she's a clone.

She might be leaving for this season, but my bet is that this is how the finale of the series will play out. Lana will return and Clark will realize that he doesn't really know Lana, and that is how we'll get closure on this aspect of the mythos.

[Iluvgreen]

This girl keeps herself in high standards.

[devilneedsaride]

Honestly, if the writers want us to like Lana, they've got to stop TELLING us that she's awesome and actually MAKE her awesome. :rolleyes: Be kinda hard to do that this point though.

[BadToad]

Lex's equal? Don't be ridiculous! Lana is so much more awesome-r then Lex. Other people that Lana is more awesome-r as per the SV writers:

Clark
Lois
Oliver
Chloe
The Pope
Kara
J'onn Jones
Mother Theresa
President Obama
All the Legion members put together
All the JLA members put together
Tess
Jimmy
Martha Kent
Lionel Luthor

and so on...

Pfffft, Lex wishes he could be Lana's equal.

:lol:

[Dustmite]

I wish SV wouldn't do this. Keep away from this show Michael. Keep far away as possible because they aren't doing Lex Luthor any justice.

Lex Luthor is supposed to be one of the cleverest minds in the world. He's supposed to be brilliant. What's the point if every Tom, Dick, Harry and Lana are his equal?

[HeartChakraBabe]

wow what a load of crap

Lana Lang actually thinks she is in the same ballpark as lex luthor that is just sad

They're in the same ballpark when it comes to deception. :lol:

[myankskent]

I wish SV wouldn't do this. Keep away from this show Michael. Keep far away as possible because they aren't doing Lex Luthor any justice.

Lex Luthor is supposed to be one of the cleverest minds in the world. He's supposed to be brilliant. What's the point if every Tom, Dick, Harry and Lana are his equal?

If Lex is responsible for the things that Lana is being forced to do right now, I'd actually say that Lex is above Lana. It's ironic, really. It took Lex to be out of this show for that to happen.

[smallvillefreak24]

ya... lana i dont think that was the reason sweetie

[tyson08]

Conceited!? :lol:

[Storm45]

The whole Lexana relationship was Lex's manipulation: From getting her to make her believe she miscarried.
Lex never changed during that relationship while Lana was the one who turned into a vengeful, obsessive person.

But Lana is so hyped up by other characters that she ends up believing it.

[Yoshua]

wow what a load of crap

Lana Lang actually thinks she is in the same ballpark as lex luthor that is just sad

Lana Lang is definately Lex Luthors equal on this show.


There is no question about it. Which is reason #1 Clark Kent can never be with her forever. She is damaged goods.

Sorry Clana fans. It's true.

[umm]

Only in the land called Shangri La, is what I have got to say to that statement! Talk about high oppinion of ones self!

[davidbrenton]

Maybe she was referring to Lana being Lex's equal at farting. Maybe, they had farting contests when they were married and Lana's were equally loud and smelly.

In fact, that also explains why Tess was in awe of her. She was prolly thinking, "But this girl is sooo tiny. How did she make them that loud?"

[Iluvgreen]

My favorite part of this was Tess's comment to it. :lol:

[dru-zod2501]

^Lana's leaving in two weeks. What's the point of unveiling some clone story in the last two weeks and then having her go away forever? Making Lana a clone at this point in her episode run would be rather foolish and a big slap in the face IMO. Then there'd be no closure for Clana... :\
What does Lana do that IS NOT a slap in somebody's face, whether it be Clark, Lois, Chloe, Lex, Lionel, some lowlife janitor at Luthorcorp, Santa, my aunt phyllis, or most importantly the viewers?

If this wasn't really the original Lana, would at least give me some weird form of closure, i could stop contorting my brain to make sense of how the pink princess became the queen 6!+(# so effortlessly

[minerva73]

What does Lana do that IS NOT a slap in somebody's face, whether it be Clark, Lois, Chloe, Lex, Lionel, some lowlife janitor at Luthorcorp, Santa, my aunt phyllis, or most importantly the viewers?
:lol:

How does it seem like Lana becoming like this not make a lot of sense? They showed her plunge to darkness in Season 6 (seeing as how the season focused on her a lot more than they did Clark). In Void, Lana said that she wouldn't allow herself to be so dependent on Clark or anything which caused her to start stepping out of her pink princess facade. Then she slowly moved towards becoming more evil and even the queen ***** (it took a while for me to figure out what "6!+(#" was, but I got it :lol:) when she was placed in situations like the one with Dr. Groll in Arrow. Then she even was pushed to the edge in episodes like Trespass where she was being stalked by Lex's men. So by Nemesis and even Phantom, she learned quite a few Luthor tricks.

But Lana is so hyped up by other characters that she ends up believing it.

:rotfl: But I can't say that I disagree.

Actually, if she were a clone, why would she sabotage Luthorcorp? I think this is the real Lana, even though she's barely recognizable with all her new skills that she's mastered in 7 months.

I agree. Lex would've had to have programmed a lot of information into the clone to let it think on it's own and try to take down LuthorCorp. It would've taken as long as Grant Gabriel's clones did (which supposedly took years) and Lex probably only started cloning Lana shortly before Static... JMO.

[Loisdragon]

Well that explains the Wig. I knew she was bold all along

[Atomic girl]

Lana has claimed that she was Lex's equal before, but Lex never agreed with her....

[Theshadow129x]

I have an issue with Lana thinking so highly of herself. in what way has she ever been on Lex's Level? She never has been in this world or the next. if this was a reality show it still wouldnt be believable. She's too wound up with herself to be on his level. Lex is a chess player she still plays with Barbie dolls!

[yvette/lois]

Lana was whose equal? Lex? Since when?

[Theshadow129x]

Lex has no equal. Thinking that he does is blasphemy!

[pizzahead2490]

lex equal :lol:

[paolinki25]

She was so his equal that she believed a fake pregnancy. Please. That line completely came out of her ass.

[[Krypton_Eradicator]]

Well if you recall, Lana did what no other character did on the show... She managed to framed him for murder, and sent him to jail... And after he got out of jail she held him at gunpoint in Shanghai... She could have killed him if she wanted to but she didn't..... And I quote Lex "...I always knew you were smart Lana, but I never thought you were brilliant..." To me, aside from Lionel Luthor, Lana Lang is next in line to being Lex's equal.... She did tame a Luthor....

Agreed. At least there is still someone here who watches the show for the sake of watching it without being character biased OR with no "Hate Lana" Instinct :D

[Storm45]

;4373444']Agreed. At least there is still someone here who watches the show for the sake of watching it without being character biased OR with no "Hate Lana" Instinct :D

Indeed when you have Lana in your avatar, like the poster you quoted, you're more objective than anyone about Lana. :rolleyes:

I stand in my opinion that Lana is not Lex's equal. If it was the case she wouldn't easily fall into his arms, in the first place, while everyone else in this show already figured out what kind of person he was. She didn't saw that Lex wanted to get back at Clark, that he arranged to break her relationship with Clark to get her, that he made her believe that she was pregnant, that he abducted her best firiend before their marriage... Should I go on? Oh and she let herself being scarred for life by Lex in the end. She let him have an influence on her.


That's my opinion. You can have a different one and I'll actually respect that.

[Legendary Lois & Clark]

wow what a load of crap

Lana Lang actually thinks she is in the same ballpark as lex luthor that is just sad

Almost as sad as Clark has become. Almost.;)

[[Krypton_Eradicator]]

Indeed when you have Lana in your avatar, like the poster you quoted, you're more objective than anyone about Lana. :rolleyes:

I stand in my opinion that Lana is not Lex's equal. If it was the case she wouldn't easily fall into his arms, in the first place, while everyone else in this show already figured what kind of person he was. She demonstrated an incredible naiveté during their relationship. She let herself being scarred by Lex afterwards.

That's my opinion. You can have a different one and I'll actually respect that.

Good.

[Kal-ed]

"His equal" !!

Good god, Lana, delusional much?

That´s the thing, per show canon, she isnt delusional, she outwit him several times, including when she stole the money, he didnt know she was watching him, she´s just as capable of making threats and such, she was going to leave him to die in the tunnels, as much as it doesnt make sense that the pink princess could be so cunning and lethal from one day to a nother, Lana is Lex´s equall.

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Indeed when you have Lana in your avatar, like the poster you quoted, you're more objective than anyone about Lana. :rolleyes:

I stand in my opinion that Lana is not Lex's equal. If it was the case she wouldn't easily fall into his arms, in the first place, while everyone else in this show already figured out what kind of person he was. She didn't saw that Lex wanted to get back at Clark, that he arranged to break her relationship with Clark to get her, that he made her believe that she was pregnant, that he abducted her best firiend before their marriage... Should I go on? Oh and she let herself being scarred for life by Lex in the end. She let him have an influence on her.

Ill preface my response with this "Im in no way a Clana or Lana fan"

and he let her have an influence on him, he was a wuss during his Lexana days and started being slopy (per Lionel´s own words), honestly for what ever reason Lex was with Lana (IMO Lexmas showed that in his own twisted way he did love her beyond his Clark envy) the fact is that he changed with her and she brought the things to a leveled field, again I think its horrible writing but I did see a clear intent from the writers to have Lana as Lex´s equal, which is not at all that far out, I mean in Smallville I think it doesnt make sense how Lana from previous season could wind up like Clana from season 6, yes she suffered through some stuff but she sudenly became an evil genius out of nowhere and add to that the tech genius in season 7 and its a horrible combo. Anyhow as I was saying Lana being Lex´s equal, well never an equal but she was Lexcorp CEO in the comics so its not like its unprecedented to have an empowered Lana, still in the comics she was never Lex´s equal, the notion is insulting, since Lex is suposed to be one of earth´s greatest intellects.

[One-Winged-Angel]

yes, agree.

[Bizarrolover]

She was so his equal that she believed a fake pregnancy. Please. That line completely came out of her ass.

And not just that. She is so brilliant she couldn't tell the difference between Clark and Bizarro. I guess so much sex clouded her judgement.

[badraven]

When I heard that line I chuckled and thought- "someone has a very high opinion of herself." I guess everyone is the hero in their own story...especially Lana it seems.

[Hopefulsuicide]

do you think they are deliberately making Lana irritating? do you think they are doing it to stir people up so that Clois will be even more popular...

[Kcirtap41B]

At this point how the heck can she not have an ego?
Saturn girl in Legion basically telling her she will become almost as important as Superman in the future? How she molded Superman into who he would be?
I thought that was crap. Lana should only remain relatively important to Clark while he's IN HIGH SCHOOL. The guy's been out of high school for a few years now, time to move on, time to forget Lana Lang, time to put on the friggen cape.

[unfocused]

I think Lana meant equal as in how she matched against Lex in their little relationship battle. She was talking about how she knew him, being so close to him. She was talking about the relationship, in which Lana did not let Lex take control of. In that, he couldn't beat her. JMO.

[Clois4eva89]

I nearly peed myself from laughing so hard. When I heard her say that hey smallville writers stop drinking the lana kool-aid.Everyone knows that lana is the weakest link on the show.

[Timester]

do you think they are deliberately making Lana irritating? do you think they are doing it to stir people up so that Clois will be even more popular...

Bingo. That's exactly how it worked on the comics. ;)

[dru-zod2501]

do you think they are deliberately making Lana irritating? do you think they are doing it to stir people up so that Clois will be even more popular...
if so then why did they start this irritation back in the first season? they were preping for Clois all this time?:lol:

no, AlMiles screwed up Lana so bad for their own twisted reasons, why break with tradition? And how would they redeem her now if they could?

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Bingo. That's exactly how it worked on the comics. ;)
I take that as sarcasm

[Kal26]

wow what a load of crap

Lana Lang actually thinks she is in the same ballpark as lex luthor that is just sad

I agree. When she said that I laughed so hard pop almost came out of my nose. She had such a serious look on her face, and to think that she actually believed it is making me laugh now.

[Hopefulsuicide]

I think Lana meant equal as in how she matched against Lex in their little relationship battle. She was talking about how she knew him, being so close to him. She was talking about the relationship, in which Lana did not let Lex take control of. In that, he couldn't beat her. JMO.

well the fact is, he did beat her. he stripped away her innocence in the same way the Joker stripped away Harvey Dent's. he screwed her and she went a little mad, and now the lines are a little more blurry for her. she has done some immoral things and is doing something behind Clark's back now...

i'd say Lex won

[unfocused]

I say Lex didn't win. Just like any woman that is brave enough to leave an abusive relationship, she wins.

[darkone]

Whether people like it or not it's backed up with canon. She outsmarted Lex and Lionel and got away with it. No one else accomplished that. :p

[Sweetie]

I bursted into laugher when I heard her say this.So she's Lex's equal now...Since when???Just because she got a few ninja's moves that doesn't make her a criminal master mind?I think she got hit on the head way too much.It's one of the most ridiculous thing that I ever heard and it's sad really.

[Becc]

I say Lex didn't win. Just like any woman that is brave enough to leave an abusive relationship, she wins.
I like your take on this unfocused- I'd never thought of it that way before, you're right :D

[Shadowlord367]

To be honest, Lana orchestrated her own fake death using his own technology, embezzled a large sum of money from him, all under his own nose. I'm pretty sure to say Lana is very much so a force on par with Lex.

And by the way, Lana hasn't served coffee since season three.

[unfocused]

I like your take on this unfocused- I'd never thought of it that way before, you're right :D
Thanks.

To be honest, Lana orchestrated her own fake death using his own technology, embezzled a large sum of money from him, all under his own nose. I'm pretty sure to say Lana is very much so a force on par with Lex.

And by the way, Lana hasn't served coffee since season three.
Ah, great point. Lana did in fact equal with Lex in terms of wit and deviousness.

[Ace16]

To be honest, Lana orchestrated her own fake death using his own technology, embezzled a large sum of money from him, all under his own nose. I'm pretty sure to say Lana is very much so a force on par with Lex.

And by the way, Lana hasn't served coffee since season three.

And she would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for Lois....

[Kal26]

Lana's only equal to Lex in her wildest dreams. Faking your own death to get away from someone doesn't make you their equal, it makes you a scared defeatist. If she was his equal she wouldn't have to leave at all. She would have blackmailed him, the way he and Lionel do everyone else. She would have stayed around and shoved his defeat in his face, like he would do to others. Also, I don't think we'd ever see a Luthor move to China, and try to hide out by wearing a blond wig.:rotfl: The only person to beat a Luthor at their own game in my opinion was Chloe. When Lex looked at Lana, he saw a scared little girl that he could manipulate, because that's the kind of company Lex keeps, people he can control. He has no use for an equal, because they may rival him. He wants to be in control. In my opinion Tess is far more like Lex than Lana. Tess runs the whole company. When has Lana ever done anything like that? She hasn't, she just runs around saying how much like Lex she is. My question is, even if she was, why is that something to be proud of?

[Hopefulsuicide]

I feel sorry for Lana. The fact is, that since season 1, Lex and Clark have been obsessed with her since season 1... Clark was obsessed with the pretty girl next door who he watched from afar and thought was sweet and innocent... Lex also saw this... he saw the goodness in her

Both Lex and Clark went for her because she is the type of girl who you want to take care of, who is sweet and fragile and needs a big strong man too take care of her

The difference is that Clark wanted to keep her that way forever and started to like her less the more backbone she grew, whereas Lex twisted her into something new...

But she was never Lex's equal. What he turned her into was unexpected but it doesn't reach Lex's level. Lana is still a good person and she is still much younger than Lex... and from what we can see she is working for someone else, so she's not got as much power in any way.

[SuperJ77]

I dont think there is anyone in the entire smallville universe that can be lex's equal. Lex is on a level all his own

[zorasuperman]

I think Lana meant, that as compared to all of the other girls lex has been with (i.e. Dr helen bryce, desire atkins, that weird girl who constnatly worsihpped him, the toher one who tried to kill him) she was the only one who even close (as compared to the others) as fighting back. The other girls most likely (no scratch that around 99% of the other girls ) wanted lex for money. lana wanted to make clark jealous, or at least somehting similar to it.

[Sunny8]

Maybe she was referring to Lana being Lex's equal at farting. Maybe, they had farting contests when they were married and Lana's were equally loud and smelly.

In fact, that also explains why Tess was in awe of her. She was prolly thinking, "But this girl is sooo tiny. How did she make them that loud?"

:rotfl:

[llk6165]

wow what a load of crap

Lana Lang actually thinks she is in the same ballpark as lex luthor that is just sad

I think it is a hint that Lana is not the person Clark thinks/wants her to be.

[Sunny8]

Whether people like it or not it's backed up with canon. She outsmarted Lex and Lionel and got away with it. No one else accomplished that. :p

Whether it can be backed up with canon or not those are just words because in action this SV Lana Lang does not show that she is Lex's equal. This Lana Lang is more the bug that got squashed under Lex's foot.

[Vergon6]

The thing is that there was a time that Lex actually thought of Lana as his equal. He even commented on her cunning in I think it was "Kara". There are multiple times during Season 6 where he and Lionel applaud her on thinking and acting like a Luthor (also in Season 7). The whole fake pregnancy thing was because Lex for some reason had a temporary inferiority complex when it came to Lana.

It may not be true, but this is what they told her. So as much as we may not think she is an equal to Lex Luthor, he at one time did see her as such.

[unfocused]

ITA. You make a good point with the fake pregnancy.

Lana isn't equal to Lex in some ways, but in others, she is. They were both very good survivors, and very strong, in their relationship. And yes, we are talking about the relationship, not how rich or evil or intelligent they are. They aren't equal in those aspects, but when it comes to survival, deviousness, cunning, Lana did in fact play that game with him well.

Lex couldn't beat Lana. This is why Lana said he saw her as an equal. Diving head first into a Luthor relationship, especially a marriage built on deceit, is like jumping into the lions din. And to not only survive THAT, but to come out on top in the end... Yes, Lana matched Lex in that game. And in that respect, she is his equal.

[SacredK]

Lana may not be Lex's equal, but he couldn't control her. She was right when she said that part.

[Sunny8]

It may not be true, but this is what they told her. So as much as we may not think she is an equal to Lex Luthor, he at one time did see her as such.

If he really thought that he would never have been able to do what he did to her.

[unfocused]

Lex has lied and betrayed Clark to. Does that make him equal to Clark?

Not even close.

[Sunny8]

Lex has lied and betrayed Clark to. Does that make him equal to Clark?

Not even close.

Did Clark or Lex ever say that Clark was Lex's equal?

[unfocused]

Do you enjoy having your questions answered with another question?

[Sunny8]

Do you enjoy having your questions answered with another question?
Does it matter?:rotfl: I'm sorry. I'm sleepy and I am amusing myself. Did I do something that offended you? I apologize if I did.

[Becc]

I'm slightly concerned that the Lana hate here is so great that most people seem to be applauding Lex who was essentially an abusive husband who did some despicable things to her, And yes I know this is just a TV show but would people act this way to a real person if they didn't like her.

[Sunny8]

I'm slightly concerned that the Lana hate here is so great that most people seem to be applauding Lex who was essentially an abusive husband who did some despicable things to her, And yes I know this is just a TV show but would people act this way to a real person if they didn't like her.

No, that's the whole point. Lex was abusive and really did Lana in. No way was she his equal. That is what people are trying to say.

[Supsfan]

I'm slightly concerned that the Lana hate here is so great that most people seem to be applauding Lex who was essentially an abusive husband who did some despicable things to her, And yes I know this is just a TV show but would people act this way to a real person if they didn't like her.

I personally think people are more ignoring 7 years of Smallville canon. I personally am not a fan of the way Lana is written to be the second most important person on the show who usually gets tied into main storylines because she is Lana and needs to do something, but fact is the way the show has written her, she is an equal of Lex.

I think the debate should be, should Lana be so important and written to be a such a strong character while downplaying the strengths of other characters like Clark and Lex when they are involved in storylines with her, just to build her up.

I would argue it's piss poor writing on the producers part, to build her character up to be so important when in all reality she should have been shuffled to the background when not involved with Clark, if they wanted to do a legitiment Clark Kent story. Oh well, 2 more episodes then hopefully Clark can move on and not have such a conflicted life.

[unfocused]

I'm slightly concerned that the Lana hate here is so great that most people seem to be applauding Lex who was essentially an abusive husband who did some despicable things to her, And yes I know this is just a TV show but would people act this way to a real person if they didn't like her.

I feel the same way. It's also apparent that some people are using the Lana hate bandwagon to their advantage. But just because a lot of people hate her doesn't mean she isn't written a certain way. She was written in a way that Lex couldn't beat her, as he has so many others in the past. There have been only a few people to ever match Lex. And Lana has.

[Hopefulsuicide]

what exactly is it about Lana that makes her equal to him?

i've seen her written as a damsell in distress, the poor little orphan who doesnt like being lied to and gets a lot of male attention, but who got screwed around by a couple of guys and started to get her hands dirty a bit, and through constant stroking of the ego she has started to believe she is stronger and more important than she actually is

i've seen lex written as a man raised by Lionel Luthor, given the best schooling, driven to be better than he is, never allowed to make mistakes without punishment, taught to be ruthless and merciless. he wants to be a normal guy and is jelous of the love of real parents, but begins to be consumed by his own nature, which is stemmed in evil. he is a brilliant liar, and brilliant businessman and has money and power.

Lex and Lana's relationship was written as Lex seeing her as a sweet and lovely girl that made him feel less evil. he clung onto her because she was a good person and he ended up twisting her. He took satsifaction in making Clark jelous, and she thought he was being honest with her when he wasn't. He lied to her and manipulated her and forced her into a marriage.

She responded by leaving him, spying on him and getting into a fight with him when she had Clark's powers... she really didn't get much of a result from it. We don't know if what she is doing now is linked to her revenge on Lex, but she has certainly not reached the level of equal.

[unfocused]

i've seen her written as a damsell in distress, the poor little orphan who doesnt like being lied to and gets a lot of male attention, but who got screwed around by a couple of guys and started to get her hands dirty a bit, and through constant stroking of the ego she has started to believe she is stronger and more important than she actually is
:lol: Someone really dislikes Lana.

But that oddly sounds a lot like Chloe. Other than the orphan and male attention bits :rolleyes:

i've seen lex written as a man raised by Lionel Luthor, given the best schooling, driven to be better than he is, never allowed to make mistakes without punishment, taught to be ruthless and merciless. he wants to be a normal guy and is jelous of the love of real parents, but begins to be consumed by his own nature, which is stemmed in evil. he is a brilliant liar, and brilliant businessman and has money and power.
Poor Lex :(

[drew24]

I'm slightly concerned that the Lana hate here is so great that most people seem to be applauding Lex who was essentially an abusive husband who did some despicable things to her, And yes I know this is just a TV show but would people act this way to a real person if they didn't like her.
Blame the writers, Lanas character shouldn't have been anymore than Clarks confidant after things didn't work out for them. Unforunately they've decided to make her a disturbed woman...sad!

[Hopefulsuicide]

:lol: Someone really dislikes Lana.

But that oddly sounds a lot like Chloe. Other than the orphan and male attention bits :rolleyes:


:lol: someone really dislikes chloe :rolleyes:

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Poor Lex :(

yeah i guess your right... smallville has made us pity Lex Luthor... that's just wrong IMO

[SuperFidget]

i've seen her written as a damsell in distress, the poor little orphan who doesnt like being lied to and gets a lot of male attention, but who got screwed around by a couple of guys and started to get her hands dirty a bit, and through constant stroking of the ego she has started to believe she is stronger and more important than she actually is

:lol: Someone really dislikes Lana.

But that oddly sounds a lot like Chloe. Other than the orphan and male attention bits :rolleyes:


Just out of curiosity... how does how Hopefulsuicide described Lana sound like Chloe? Sure there are times Chloe has gotten into predicaments and needed saving, but Chloe has never been portrayed as a damsel in distress.... she has always been bold, strong, and way too curious for her own good, she's the sidekick, not a damsel in distress. And as far as I can remember, I can only recall once that Chloe (infected by brainiac at the time mind you) got her hands dirty by hurting that guy in the hospital at the end of that episode. So I'm a bit confused with how that discription sounds like Chloe.

Having said all that. I used to love Lana, I hated how the writters ruined her "sweetness" in Season 6 & 7... but I don't hate her in any way. I love the show and most of the characters, I love Chloe & Lois both. So my opinion is in no way about what character I like most.

I think everyone can agree that Lana gave Lex a run for his money... in that she got manipulative and did some dirty deeds of her own. But an equal to Lex? I agree with those of you who have said that's laughable.

For those who have said Lana won because she was strong enough to get out of an abusive relationship, I agree. BUT... being a better person that Lex and being a strong woman doesn't make her his "equal." Heck, she shouldn't want to be his equal, it's not something to brag about. He is evil. Even Lana at her worst is not comparable to how evil Lex is.

Lana is obviously a better person than Lex and ran with the big dogs (the Luthors) for a while, yeah she's strong & smart at times, I'll give her that. But challenging Lex at times and pulling off a few schemes doesn't make her equal.

What those who are saying Lana is not equal to Lex are trying to get across is that Lex is evil & a brilliant mastermind, that's it. Lana is not an evil mastermind. Strong woman, at times, certainly. But not "equal" to him, nor should she want to be equal to him in that way, heck or any way.

[kp1984]

once Lana kills her father then we can say they are equal.

[Dresden]

Blame the writers, Lanas character shouldn't have been anymore than Clarks confidant after things didn't work out for them. Unforunately they've decided to make her a disturbed woman...sad!

Maybe that's what they are going for. In a disturbed sense, Lana is Lex's equal.

[alejandrita439]

maybe this is a hint that lana is really lex :lol:

[Saturn Girl]

I think Lex and Lana were equal in that they both have there share of personal demons that they came together over their shared confusion/frustration with Clark and his secret/s.

He was the husband she was the wife. Despite all the deception and crossed-purposes they had a common bond.

In that sense they were equal.

[drew24]

maybe this is a hint that lana is really lex :lol::rotfl:

[Hopefulsuicide]

I think Lex and Lana were equal in that they both have there share of personal demons that they came together over their shared confusion/frustration with Clark and his secret/s.

He was the husband she was the wife. Despite all the deception and crossed-purposes they had a common bond.

In that sense they were equal.

that's a similarity between them yes, but says nothing about their equality

a this point i think people are simply interpreting the word equal to mean different things

i take it to mean they are both on an equal level in all things... especially when used in the context 'saw an equal in me'

her being brave enough to leave him doesn't make her his equal... it just makes her stronger than some women...

[xrayvision]

Lana being in Lex's league is just preposterous. I just love how Lana went from an incompetent fool who cared less about the daily events going on around her to someone who can hack anything & knows everything that is going on, including Lex implanting a camera in Tess--something that was done in complete privacy. It wasn't believable with Chloe and it's even less believable with Lana.

[devilneedsaride]

well the fact is, he did beat her. he stripped away her innocence in the same way the Joker stripped away Harvey Dent's. he screwed her and she went a little mad, and now the lines are a little more blurry for her. she has done some immoral things and is doing something behind Clark's back now...

i'd say Lex won

I gotta agree here. While I think I'm verging on a sensitive subject here, there's a difference between having the courage to leave an abusive relationship, working to heal from it, and moving on, and having the courage to leave an abusive relationship, carrying the manipulation you experienced with you, and turning it on others. Of COURSE what Lex did was wrong and of COURSE Lana in any of her forms didn't deserve it in any way, but I think he did beat her because she is no longer as good a person as she was when they met.

[Becc]

I feel the same way. It's also apparent that some people are using the Lana hate bandwagon to their advantage. But just because a lot of people hate her doesn't mean she isn't written a certain way. She was written in a way that Lex couldn't beat her, as he has so many others in the past. There have been only a few people to ever match Lex. And Lana has.
Hey Unfocused I was going to say that we finally agreed on something and then you went and likened Hopefulsuicide's description of Lana to Chloe. How did that sound at all like Chloe anyway :(

[unfocused]

I gotta agree here. While I think I'm verging on a sensitive subject here, there's a difference between having the courage to leave an abusive relationship, working to heal from it, and moving on, and having the courage to leave an abusive relationship, carrying the manipulation you experienced with you, and turning it on others. Of COURSE what Lex did was wrong and of COURSE Lana in any of her forms didn't deserve it in any way, but I think he did beat her because she is no longer as good a person as she was when they met.

Depends on your interpretation of "good." She isn't that sweet cheerleader anymore, no. She isn't as innocent as she was in the early seasons. She's smarter and more tough now. She's fighting for the good side (from what Legion told us). Her bout with Lex pushed her into becoming a heroine trying to stop an evil man. Yes, she's being secretive and devious now, but she's apparently going to achieve legendary status for something good. Lex did not change her from being a good person. And I am having trouble figuring out why you think she is a bad person. We don't have all the details yet, yes she's being secretive, like Clark was all that time. So keeping secrets doesn't necessarily mean she's evil.

It seems that some people misunderstood what Lana meant by "equal." Lana didn't mean she was as evil as Lex. Or even as brilliant. Like someone said a few posts ago, she shouldn't be proud of being as evil as Lex. Well don't worry, because she isn't as evil as he is and that's her intention. One thing people seem to keep forgetting is that she spent a whole season with Clark as a good person AFTER leaving Lex. So no, Lex did not change her, he did not beat her. She played his game with him, and she survived. She came out of that relationship a stronger person able to find a purpose; to bring down Lex Luthor. She surely didn't beat Lex at his game, but he didn't beat her either. And that's what she means by "equal."

Becc, I meant Chloe has had her fair share of damsel in distress moments. So has Lois and Martha, it's not something that is exclusive to Lana. Especially now that she is on her own covert missions and actually accomplishing as much as Oliver in her hunt for Lex. We all had a different perception of Lana last year, but this year she is earning her keep. She's no longer that little princess and her days of being the sweet cheerleader/coffee shop girl are over. Smallville definitely has a greater future for her now that PS3 has taken charge. She'd be back in the barn for these 5 episodes had AlMiles still been around.

[Becc]

Depends on your interpretation of "good." She isn't that sweet cheerleader anymore, no. She isn't as innocent as she was in the early seasons. She's smarter and more tough now. She's fighting for the good side (from what Legion told us). Her bout with Lex pushed her into becoming a heroine trying to stop an evil man. Yes, she's being secretive and devious now, but she's apparently going to achieve legendary status for something good. Lex did not change her from being a good person. And I am having trouble figuring out why you think she is a bad person. We don't have all the details yet, yes she's being secretive, like Clark was all that time. So keeping secrets doesn't necessarily mean she's evil.

It seems that some people misunderstood what Lana meant by "equal." Lana didn't mean she was as evil as Lex. Or even as brilliant. Like someone said a few posts ago, she shouldn't be proud of being as evil as Lex. Well don't worry, because she isn't as evil as he is and that's her intention. One thing people seem to keep forgetting is that she spent a whole season with Clark as a good person AFTER leaving Lex. So no, Lex did not change her, he did not beat her. She played his game with him, and she survived. She came out of that relationship a stronger person able to find a purpose; to bring down Lex Luthor. She surely didn't beat Lex at his game, but he didn't beat her either. And that's what she means by "equal."

Becc, I meant Chloe has had her fair share of damsel in distress moments. So has Lois and Martha, it's not something that is exclusive to Lana. Especially now that she is on her own covert missions and actually accomplishing as much as Oliver in her hunt for Lex. We all had a different perception of Lana last year, but this year she is earning her keep. She's no longer that little princess and her days of being the sweet cheerleader/coffee shop girl are over. Smallville definitely has a greater future for her now that PS3 has taken charge. She'd be back in the barn for these 5 episodes had AlMiles still been around.
Thanks for clarifying- all the women had their fair share of DID moments. I think you're right on what she meant by saying "equal" and I have to agree. I mean there are lots of evil people in this world, does it mean because they are diabolical that they are greater than anyone else?

[Hopefulsuicide]

:lol: Someone really dislikes Lana.

But that oddly sounds a lot like Chloe. Other than the orphan and male attention bits :rolleyes:


i just gotta come back to this to properly defend myself here... firstly, my dislike of Lana goes back and forth, and is usually made negative when i feel everyone is kissing her a*se. However i did not write that statement out of Lana hate. I wrote it to give an idea of how Lana, Lex and their relationship has been written IMO and how that shows that she is in no way his equal, and he never wanted her because she was his equal

so instead of adressing this, you've made a sarcastic comment, and then likened a slightly negative write up of Lana to Chloe, just because you know i like Chloe and think it might annoy me... i can't see any other reason why you would liken it to Chloe in a thread about Lexana and not even bother to respond the the point i was making

Lex saw Lana as a prize to be one, and as his anchor to all things good and sweet.

IMO he saw Helen as his equal more than he saw Lana as his equal. Or Victoria. They could play power games and be devious within the relationship. Lana couldn't play games... she was too nice.

[unfocused]

Thanks for letting me know your opinion.

I partly agree that Helen was seen as an equal to Lex. He couldn't beat her either and she also escaped him. Victoria an equal? No not really. First of all he owned her when she said "it's just business," and he responded with "If our relationship is just business, I hate to think what that makes you." And then he teamed up with his father and put the Hardwicks out of commission. Victoria lost. A lot.

And yes, I was sarcastic. It's not easy defending Lana, especially in this hateful atmosphere. I needed to keep myself entertained :rolleyes: But seriously, you're right about how Lana has been written most of the time. But she has had a good story this season, even though I think the story is unnecessary. But we'll see, I may like it in the end, and it may change my perception of her. If there is one thing that PS3 can do, it's probably write Lana better than the whine fest we've had for so long.

[Hopefulsuicide]

I really do think it's just a difference in conception of the meaning of equal

I mean look at boxing. They match you up with someone who is about your equal, and you fight, and someone wins. Next time the other person might win. But you are still on an equal level of fighting ability

I don't see that fact that Lex beat Victoria as making her any less of an equal. And i don't see Lana escaping Lex makes her any more of an equal. When you measure them up, weigh them, etc, Lana is like a feather weight and Lex is the heavy weight... whether Lana is lucky enough to miss the punches, doesn't make her his equal

p.s. i'm not an expert on boxing, but i hope people get the idea :lol:

[jpfort1957]

lex luthor is supposed to be the greatest criminal mind of our time...and lana serves coffee.......

That says it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!