The Chlark Scene

[Sue Denim]

Talk about the Chlark scene here.

[thehenry89]

they only had one scene together I was pretty dissapointed.

[Darth Pipes]

Chloe had one scene and the only purpose it served was to pimp out Lois and Clark. The sixth character to do that this season.

[RedKRules]

I will just say one thing, Geoff please please please please write the rest of the season ?? ..

[Kalista]

I'm viewing this scene as a setup for the events in Hex . Also, Chloe didn't pimp her cousin with Clark like Maxima or Kara. She simply told Clark that her cousin has feelings for him and that she wouldn't want to see her hurt like she had been in the past. There was no indication of Clark returning those feelings and his mind immediately went to Lana. Chloe words indicate that her cousin is the third wheel in the triangle.

[RedKRules]

How does Chloe knows that Lois has feelings for Clark ??? :confused: ... Offscreenville I am sure :rolleyes:

[Sue Denim]

The Chlark scene in Bulletproof had Chloe reference Cloisana and the possiblity of Clark hurting Lois' feelings. It doesn't make me happy, but I'm not pessimistic about this either. I would have preferred that Chloe not say anything to Clark, but I do think she could empathize with Lois--as Lois has it bad for Clark. Chloe clearly assumed that Clark would shut Lois out for Lana again, and really--what can she say at this point to Clark?

Telling Clark not to hurt Lois' feelings was the right thing to do. Chloe didn't appear to be happy to say this as she can relate. The fact that Chloe brings it up and Clark sort acts like he's caught sort of tells me, "See, Chloe does know Clark better."

Also, I was pleased with Clark's reaction to Chloe's suggestion that she missed Brainiac in her head and the thinking abilities she once had.

Chlark is still very viable, as Chloe left Jimmy to help him. They are extremely good friends, and nothing changes with Chlark based on whatever happens. Chlark remains the constant, sure thing.

[Deana]

I liked it and she is proving that she is over Clark. At least one of the characters from the show can move on and actually mean it. Thank god for such a rare event.

Chloe you rock and don't let that Lana worshiper hurt your cousin like he did you.

[morena]

they only had one scene together I was pretty dissapointed.

she will direct the episode 13, so only had a scene together

[Tatiana]

I liked it but I agree it was too little of Chloe, I guess they have to make it seem she is taking care of Jimmy but it doesn't really explain why Lois isn't back then, didn't she say she would be back when she heard about Chloe? and since Chloe is over there, why can't she come back? well I guess cuz she doesn't wanna witness the Clana

[morena]

The Chlark scene in Bulletproof had Chloe reference Cloisana and the possiblity of Clark hurting Lois' feelings. It doesn't make me happy, but I'm not pessimistic about this either. I would have preferred that Chloe not say anything to Clark, but I do think she could empathize with Lois--as Lois has it bad for Clark. Chloe clearly assumed that Clark would shut Lois out for Lana again, and really--what can she say at this point to Clark?

Telling Clark not to hurt Lois' feelings was the right thing to do. Chloe didn't appear to be happy to say this as she can relate. The fact that Chloe brings it up and Clark sort acts like he's caught sort of tells me, "See, Chloe does know Clark better."

Also, I was pleased with Clark's reaction to Chloe's suggestion that she missed Brainiac in her head and the thinking abilities she once had.

Chlark is still very viable, as Chloe left Jimmy to help him. They are extremely good friends, and nothing changes with Chlark based on whatever happens. Chlark remains the constant, sure thing.

but the scene was important because we knew that the almost-kiss was because Clark felt alone, he has no feelings for Edlois as many thought
I do not think Clark talking about it with another person, only Chloe

Chloe bring up concern for her cousin's feelings in the Clana drama.

[Firebunny]

I would have been perfectly happy if AM was only in 21 episodes this season and missed this one.

What a waste this whole episode was.

[lillie_poo_pod]

I would have been perfectly happy if AM was only in 21 episodes this season and missed this one.

What a waste this whole episode was.

Agreed.

[RedKRules]

Chlark is still very viable, as Chloe left Jimmy to help him. They are extremely good friends, and nothing changes with Chlark based on whatever happens. Chlark remains the constant, sure thing.

The pimp doesn´t surprise me, this guy is the same writer from Commited :lol:

I am glad Chlark is still the only constant thing on this show .... :)

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I would have been perfectly happy if AM was only in 21 episodes this season and missed this one.

What a waste this whole episode was.

I agree

[dru-zod2501]

:(... just:(

[Kalista]

I was happy to see Clark in the Metropolis PD shield that "George Dean" wore in the Apocalypse AU.

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I would have been perfectly happy if AM was only in 21 episodes this season and missed this one.

What a waste this whole episode was.

It was boring but I guess there were some details we needed to pick up on like Tess suggesting a merger between Luthorcorp and Queen Industries.

The dialogue was horrible. What did that one cop say as he was beating that guy in the warehouse.

"Take that you stinking cop killer."

It was awful, just awful:lol:

[luvinChlark]

It was boring but I guess there were some details we needed to pick up on like Tess suggesting a merger between Luthorcorp and Queen Industries.

The dialogue was horrible. What did that one cop say as he was beating that guy in the warehouse.

"Take that you stinking cop killer."

It was awful, just awful:lol:


wth? :lol: Wow, didn't hear that. Must have dosed off.. a horrible episode it was.

[Kalista]

wth? :lol: Wow, didn't hear that. Must have dosed off.. a horrible episode it was.


It's not the exact wording but it was really cheesy.

[Supsfan]

The Chlark in this episode reminded me of the first few seasons that Chloe would only get 1 or 2 scene most episodes, good times

[doodie8808]

does that mean am was a failture at directing because this eppy was sucky!

[Sue Denim]

does that mean am was a failture at directing because this eppy was sucky!

I believe AM's directorial debut is next week.

[Ayanne]

How does Chloe knows that Lois has feelings for Clark ??? :confused: ... Offscreenville I am sure :rolleyes:


What complete BS garbage. Chloe knows this how? She was a bit busy, being mindraped by both Brainiac, & then Clark. Abducted by Doomsday, & I'm supposed to believe she was focused on the pining by EDLO? :rolleyes:

What I find amusing is Chloe showing more concern for EDLO's feelings, that she ever did for Chloe's about Clark.

Whoever wrote this episode is painfully BAD.

[susangail]

One scene means that AM was busy getting ready.

[Ayanne]

One scene means that AM was busy getting ready.

I could have done without the one scene if it was only about EDLo, instead of Chloe.

STUPID, & a waste of airtime.

[nic25]

How does Chloe knows that Lois has feelings for Clark ??? :confused: ... Offscreenville I am sure :rolleyes:

Thats the same thing i was wondering :confused:....but although the scene was short,i liked it.She basically said,i know you have feelings for my cousin(and vise versa),i know how you dissed me,and your not going to do that to Lois....Point blank.She stood up for her,and i was very proud of Chole in that scene.

You could tell by his look that he was kind of surpirised she said it too!

[Ayanne]

Thats the same thing i was wondering :confused:....but although the scene was short,i liked it.She basically said,i know you have feelings for my cousin(and vise versa),i know how you dissed me,and your not going to do that to Lois....Point blank.She stood up for her,and i was very proud of Chole in that scene.

You could tell by his look that he was kind of surpirised she said it too!

The entire context of that scene was bullcrap. No way does Chloe *know* that, & Clark obviously does not have feelings for her cousin, he was ALL ABOUT LANA.

How ironic too, that the bullcrap scene did contrast that Chloe's shows more concern about her cousin's feelings, than said cousin EVER did about Chloe's feelings. Her "absolutely" about Chloe losing her job unfairly.

Let them find someone else to pimp EDLo, I would rather not see Chloe scenes wasted for that garbage.

[eas]

^ Lois was concerned about Chloe's feelings when it came to Clark. She once threatened to break his legs if he hurt Chloe.

I thought it was a nice scene, but a bit confusing.

[Supsfan]

How ironic too, that the bullcrap scene did contrast that Chloe's shows more concern about her cousin's feelings, than said cousin EVER did about Chloe's feelings. Her "absolutely" about Chloe losing her job unfairly.

I guess Lois doesn't get any brownie points putting her butt on the line to try hunt her down 2 times or as somebody pointed out in devoted threatening Clark to break his legs if he hurted her.

Way I look at the journalist thing, In Sleeper it seemed like Chloe didn't care much about getting fired, and that point was brought up again in Plastique about her feelings towards losing the job. Now if Chloe feels that way about it, then why is Lois getting blamed for not being angry about it(I would have to assume that since both live together the subject has been brought up).

[Kalista]

How ironic too, that the bullcrap scene did contrast that Chloe's shows more concern about her cousin's feelings, than said cousin EVER did about Chloe's feelings. Her "absolutely" about Chloe losing her job unfairly.

She's quite literally empathizing with Chloe by pursuing Clark.

[hanemg]

Actually, Chloe did say that it was "obvious" how Clark and Lois were developing something. And in light of her previous comments about how much time the two of them spend together and the fact that even Ollie figured it out strongly suggests that the two of them are less than subtle around each other.

As for Clark loving Lana, I'm not sure why this surprises anyone since, well...he does love Lana. You and I know that it's destined to end (next episode in fact if I'm not mistaken), but he still has feelings for her. The thing I did notice was that he didn't deny having feelings for Lois as well. I mean he certainly doesn't love her like he loves Lana (his and Lois' love is something for the future), but he didn't even try to deny that "something" was there. And that IMHO spoke volumes.

So, as for the Clark and Chloe scene altogether I thought it was good. It reminded us that Clark and Lois were developing some kind of feelings for each other thus sticking to continuity yet reminded us that Clark does love Lana still so those feelings can't be explained away as "lightswitch!" the way some are want to do. Clark and Lana aren't going to work out and rather than simply turning off Clark's feelings for Lois in the interim while the Clana love fest progresses they are showing that Clark acknowledges something is there, but that he still has very strong feelings for Lana and will pursue those. When that crashes and burns it may even have something to do with those feelings for Lois he didn't deny. That's just speculation, but I think it would be a nice thing to add to the overall end of Clana as it will show that Clark truly has moved past Lana just the same way Chloe moved past Clark to find Jimmy.

[Dyanara]

Chloe was in the episode? Sheesh I must have blinked. No but seriously, it was too little Chloe. Im not even that in love with her and I missed her. I guess it was either her or Oliver and they chose Oliver. I also liked Chloe warning Clark not to bring Lois into his pathetic Clana show.

[batfinx]

"Take that you stinking cop killer."

Good thing I record the eps. The guy that got beat up said he was acquitted of the death of Turpin's partner, then Turpin punched him and said he'd gotten off on a technicality. He said "You piece of trash" since obviously they can't call someone a "piece of sh**" on Smallville :D

What complete BS garbage. Chloe knows this how? She was a bit busy, being mindraped by both Brainiac, & then Clark. Abducted by Doomsday, & I'm supposed to believe she was focused on the pining by EDLO?

I'd be surprised if anyone at the wedding missed how Clark and Lois interacted. Chloe said "yeah, it was that obvious". Chloe wasn't busy the whole time and she and Lois interacted in the loft and Chloe said "Lois, don't worry. When you meet your super stud, you'll know." The use of "super stud" is interesting, no? :lol:

None of this is out of character for Chloe. She seems to look out for those who might get hurt on love's battlefield because she can empathize. Chloe wasn't pimping Clois, she was looking out for her cousin. It's the same thing Lois had done for Chloe, like when she told Clark "if you break her heart, I'll break your legs". In many ways the love Chloe and Lois have for each other is the only love that lasts on the show and seems very sincere. And no, I'm not shipping them ;)

[eas]

Actually, Chloe did say that it was "obvious" how Clark and Lois were developing something. And in light of her previous comments about how much time the two of them spend together and the fact that even Ollie figured it out strongly suggests that the two of them are less than subtle around each other.

As for Clark loving Lana, I'm not sure why this surprises anyone since, well...he does love Lana. You and I know that it's destined to end (next episode in fact if I'm not mistaken), but he still has feelings for her. The thing I did notice was that he didn't deny having feelings for Lois as well. I mean he certainly doesn't love her like he loves Lana (his and Lois' love is something for the future), but he didn't even try to deny that "something" was there. And that IMHO spoke volumes.

So, as for the Clark and Chloe scene altogether I thought it was good. It reminded us that Clark and Lois were developing some kind of feelings for each other thus sticking to continuity yet reminded us that Clark does love Lana still so those feelings can't be explained away as "lightswitch!" the way some are want to do. Clark and Lana aren't going to work out and rather than simply turning off Clark's feelings for Lois in the interim while the Clana love fest progresses they are showing that Clark acknowledges something is there, but that he still has very strong feelings for Lana and will pursue those. When that crashes and burns it may even have something to do with those feelings for Lois he didn't deny. That's just speculation, but I think it would be a nice thing to add to the overall end of Clana as it will show that Clark truly has moved past Lana just the same way Chloe moved past Clark to find Jimmy.

Well put. And I agree.

[ginnyfan]

I liked it and she is proving that she is over Clark. At least one of the characters from the show can move on and actually mean it. Thank god for such a rare event.

Chloe you rock and don't let that Lana worshiper hurt your cousin like he did you.

LOL!

One scene means that AM was busy getting ready.

I can't wait to see her episode. I thought her directing might have something to do with her limited screentime.

The way she looked at Clark when he talked about her memories. I hope she remembers not remembering.

[eas]

I'd be surprised if anyone at the wedding missed how Clark and Lois interacted. Chloe said "yeah, it was that obvious". Chloe wasn't busy the whole time and she and Lois interacted in the loft and Chloe said "Lois, don't worry. When you meet your super stud, you'll know." The use of "super stud" is interesting, no? :lol:

None of this is out of character for Chloe. She seems to look out for those who might get hurt on love's battlefield because she can empathize. Chloe wasn't pimping Clois, she was looking out for her cousin. It's the same thing Lois had done for Chloe, like when she told Clark "if you break her heart, I'll break your legs". In many ways the love Chloe and Lois have for each other is the only love that lasts on the show and seems very sincere. And no, I'm not shipping them ;)

Yeah, it does seem to be a thing that everyone has figured it out and noticed. Jimmy, Ollie, and now Chloe. And Chloe - as Hanemg pointed out - has tried to bring this up before.

This shows that the whole Clark & Lois thing wasn't a lightswitch and was built up in the first half. And Chloe was just pointing out that it makes sense for him to have feelings for Lana & be confused, but he shouldn't hurt Lois in the process.

And, yes, it is quite telling that Clark didn't DENY that there was something between him and Lois. This is very different from any convo that Clark has had with anyone regarding Lois before. So, he's aware of it and he knows... he just doesn't know what to do about it.

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I can't wait to see her episode. I thought her directing might have something to do with her limited screentime.

Yes, it was. But you know what? I didn't miss her... I'm not a Lana fan, by any means, but I think the 2 main storylines were more than enough. I loved the focus on Clark being an undercover cop and all the great moments between him, Dan Turpin and Ollie. Those scenes were awesome and I would have hated to have time taken away from that to include a Chloe story. I can even admit that Lois shouldn't have been there, either.

[ZODisGOD]

This episode needs more chlark scenes and less of danny&police scenes. just kidding. this ep was great.

[Ayanne]

She's quite literally empathizing with Chloe by pursuing Clark.

Is that it? Chloe's cousin trying to emulate Chloe by "pining" after Clark, when he only has eyes for Lana?

There are real issues of depth/ for Chloe to be upset with Clark about & EDLo's pining certainly isn't one of them to waste airtime on. She was under the influence of Brainiac during the wedding, or she would be remembering Davis = Doomsday.

Brainiac mindraped Chloe, & then Clark basically did the same, ignoring her wants/needs.

I could care less about the shallow issues of EDLo's unrequited pining. Geeze, she's already been with Aquaman/AC, Ollie/Green Arrow, Grant Gabriel.

[Iluvgreen]

Chloe was Clark are the cutest friends ever.

[Kalista]

Is that it? Chloe's cousin trying to emulate Chloe by "pining" after Clark, when he only has eyes for Lana?

Pretty much.:lol:

[Ayanne]

Pretty much.:lol:


That's interesting, only not. Mostly just Pathetic. LOL!

[Clana4Life]

I actually didn't like the Chlark scene that much tonight. I felt like what Chloe said came out of left field. We've never seen any indication that Chloe has picked up on anything related to Clois. That's the problem with Clois. Too much happens in offscreenland and they just act like it's so obvious to everyone else. There's no reason they couldn't give Clois real scenes that show the viewers that they like each other and are slowly falling for each other. It's just rushed and anvils and people just randomly saying things about "we can tell you like each other." I though Chloe was a little hard on Clark. He and Lois are not even in a relationship. Why does he have to worry about hurting her. This is jumping the gun big time. Why did Chloe call Lois the point in the triangle. Clois has had an "almost kiss". What Chloe said didn't make sense and I'm pretty sure Lois would have wanted her to keep her mouth closed. Lois needs to be the one to say how she feels and what hurts her. I didn't like the scene.

[Clana4Life]

I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned it, but I thought Chloe looked super ticked in the entire scene. I like to pay attention to subtleties and subtext and there seemed to be a lot of that going on. Screenwriting 101: Subtext is everything.

So basically, it's what's underneath the surface that tells us what's really going on in this scene.

Here's a nice little summary the AFI had to say about dialogue subtext:



I also think the actor's interpretations (body language, facial expressions, tone of voice, the camera work, the choreography of the scene, etc...also can tell us what's going on (beyond what they are saying).

So, let's take a quick look at this Chlark scene (I’m not going to go too deep, but you’ll get the idea; I'll bold my thoughts)

Basically, we're told that Clark called Chloe to Isis from the hospital for her help, and Chloe needs to get back before Jimmy wakes up.

She starts typing away, her body language tense. She stops, looks really bugged and says:

Chloe: You know I got to say being at the mercy of modern technology really sucks. (In other words, she misses her Brainiac power).

Clark is surprised by this statement, almost disappointed in Chloe.

Chloe: I know, I know. I'm happy to be Brainiac free, but my evil upgrade was really...convenient. (She says it was convenient but what she isn’t saying is that she really liked it)

Clark: I'm just glad everything's back to normal.

(Chloe looks twice at Clark).

Chloe: So it would seem. (This makes us question whether or not everything is back to normal. Is there something going on we don’t know about? She also seems pretty bitter in this scene. She doesn't like that things are back to normal. Here she is, same old dependable Chloe, with Clark liking Lana and now Lois too and she's MARRIED. I mean I really think Chloe seems bugged in this scene, and almost annoyed that Clark is happy with normal. Because Chloe has never liked normal, and that's what she now is. Could this scene be foreshadowing what is to come in Hex? )

(Pause; Clark looks at Chloe)

Chloe: How are things now that Lana's back in your orbit? (Chloe’s asking this question, almost with an interrogative style. She’s asking him how he is, but she really wants to know something else. She’s fishing to figure out what his feelings for Lois are, and possibly for other things we don’t know about as the audience).

Clark: It's not like that...I think.

Chloe: Clark things always get messy when you start throwing around the Clark/Lana triangle...And I'm speaking from experience when I say that the 3rd point always hurts. Chloe becomes sad. (Chloe apparently still hurts)

Clark: (surprised) I'm not trying to hurt anyone. (Why is Clark surprised? Because he gets what Chloe is saying to him. He thinks Chloe’s still hurt, and he’s trying to tell her without actually saying it, see that’s how subtext works, that it was never his intention to ever hurt her).

Chloe: (with a serious nod): How about Lois? (fishing for answers again; she also could be sad about the whole Lois/Clark thing; and at the same time she doesn't want Clark to hurt Lois the way he hurt her)

(Clark is surprised again. Chloe smiles)

Chloe: Yeah, it's that obvious. (Close Up of Chloe switches to a Two Shot with Chloe almost staring daggers. The camera then pans out to Clark's face). (How could Chloe miss the Lois and Clark when it was so obvious to everyone? She could actually be bugged that Clark hasn’t mentioned Lois to her. Could Chloe be irritated that Clark is turning to Lois? Switching over from Lana to Lois, but never her? She's just his dependable search engine as usual? Could she be bitter?).

Clark: Lois. Lois is so...

Chloe: Lois.

Clark: Yeah. (He pauses) Seeing Lana come back is like she never left.

(Chloe peers down, thoughtful).

Clark: Can't just stop loving someone just like that, right?

(Chloe appears heartbroken and slightly nods)

(MAJOR SUBTEXT; This is an intense scene between them actually. While Clark is talking about Lana, the line also becomes about Chloe’s own feelings. She may be married to Jimmy, but how do you stop loving someone? She clearly still loves Clark (and perhaps even Davis now). Her face tells us that she still loves someone and she’s not thinking about Jimmy).

Chloe: I understand the need for closure Clark. Just promise you're not gonna slam my cousin in the door. (Why would Chloe say this? I think it comes back to subtext. The emphasis was on the words slam and door. She thinks her and Clark never had closure and that she got slammed in the door. She’s ticked).

Clark seems confused, almost as if he doesn't understand Chloe. There is a long pause, panning out to a Two Shot, where Chloe is now staring daggers.

Well anyway, the scene continues, but you get the idea.

What I got from this scene, was that Chloe is 1) pretty annoyed her Brainiac powers are gone 2) she doesn’t feel like she had closure on her relationship with Clark or with Davis for that matter and 3) She’s mad at Clark about something (you could feel the tension) 4) She doesn’t seem too happy with her life. 5) Chloe thinks Clark slammed her in the door.

This scene was all about Chlark if you ask me. It also makes me think Chloe could be hiding something from Clark.

Does she actually remember everything that happened while she was Brainiac? Could she remember that Clark didn’t let her have all of her memories back? Is she not happy with her life?

I honestly believe there was more to the scene than meets the eye, and I think it all comes down to subtext, and this scene was filled with it.

Did anyone else feel the tension in this scene? Because I thought it was oozing off the screen. Any other interpretations? Because I just wasn't seeing Chloe pimping out Clois. Her body language, tone, facial expressions and the subtext written seemed to be telling me otherwise.

But then again, maybe Allison Mack was having a cranky day, and she was interpreting the dialogue written in an angry fashion.

Wow, you really thought about this. I didn't like the scene.

[Fallen One]

I loved it. It was the best Chlark scene of the season for me. It was like the old days of SV, and most of all Chloe showed some loyality to Lois. I had no idea she knew about Clois, so I was really impressed that she did.

Hopefully we get another scene like tonight in next week's episode.

[AndiGirl]

I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned it, but I thought Chloe looked super ticked in the entire scene. I like to pay attention to subtleties and subtext and there seemed to be a lot of that going on. Screenwriting 101: Subtext is everything.

So basically, it's what's underneath the surface that tells us what's really going on in this scene.

Here's a nice little summary the AFI had to say about dialogue subtext:



I also think the actor's interpretations (body language, facial expressions, tone of voice, the camera work, the choreography of the scene, etc...also can tell us what's going on (beyond what they are saying).

So, let's take a quick look at this Chlark scene (I’m not going to go too deep, but you’ll get the idea; I'll bold my thoughts)

Basically, we're told that Clark called Chloe to Isis from the hospital for her help, and Chloe needs to get back before Jimmy wakes up.

She starts typing away, her body language tense. She stops, looks really bugged and says:

Chloe: You know I got to say being at the mercy of modern technology really sucks. (In other words, she misses her Brainiac power).

Clark is surprised by this statement, almost disappointed in Chloe.

Chloe: I know, I know. I'm happy to be Brainiac free, but my evil upgrade was really...convenient. (She says it was convenient but what she isn’t saying is that she really liked it)

Clark: I'm just glad everything's back to normal.

(Chloe looks twice at Clark).

Chloe: So it would seem. (This makes us question whether or not everything is back to normal. Is there something going on we don’t know about? She also seems pretty bitter in this scene. She doesn't like that things are back to normal. Here she is, same old dependable Chloe, with Clark liking Lana and now Lois too and she's MARRIED. I mean I really think Chloe seems bugged in this scene, and almost annoyed that Clark is happy with normal. Because Chloe has never liked normal, and that's what she now is. Could this scene be foreshadowing what is to come in Hex? )

(Pause; Clark looks at Chloe)

Chloe: How are things now that Lana's back in your orbit? (Chloe’s asking this question, almost with an interrogative style. She’s asking him how he is, but she really wants to know something else. She’s fishing to figure out what his feelings for Lois are, and possibly for other things we don’t know about as the audience).

Clark: It's not like that...I think.

Chloe: Clark things always get messy when you start throwing around the Clark/Lana triangle...And I'm speaking from experience when I say that the 3rd point always hurts. Chloe becomes sad. (Chloe apparently still hurts)

Clark: (surprised) I'm not trying to hurt anyone. (Why is Clark surprised? Because he gets what Chloe is saying to him. He thinks Chloe’s still hurt, and he’s trying to tell her without actually saying it, see that’s how subtext works, that it was never his intention to ever hurt her).

Chloe: (with a serious nod): How about Lois? (fishing for answers again; she also could be sad about the whole Lois/Clark thing; and at the same time she doesn't want Clark to hurt Lois the way he hurt her)

(Clark is surprised again. Chloe smiles)

Chloe: Yeah, it's that obvious. (Close Up of Chloe switches to a Two Shot with Chloe almost staring daggers. The camera then pans out to Clark's face). (How could Chloe miss the Lois and Clark when it was so obvious to everyone? She could actually be bugged that Clark hasn’t mentioned Lois to her. Could Chloe be irritated that Clark is turning to Lois? Switching over from Lana to Lois, but never her? She's just his dependable search engine as usual? Could she be bitter?).

Clark: Lois. Lois is so...

Chloe: Lois.

Clark: Yeah. (He pauses) Seeing Lana come back is like she never left.

(Chloe peers down, thoughtful).

Clark: Can't just stop loving someone just like that, right?

(Chloe appears heartbroken and slightly nods)

(MAJOR SUBTEXT; This is an intense scene between them actually. While Clark is talking about Lana, the line also becomes about Chloe’s own feelings. She may be married to Jimmy, but how do you stop loving someone? She clearly still loves Clark (and perhaps even Davis now). Her face tells us that she still loves someone and she’s not thinking about Jimmy).

Chloe: I understand the need for closure Clark. Just promise you're not gonna slam my cousin in the door. (Why would Chloe say this? I think it comes back to subtext. The emphasis was on the words slam and door. She thinks her and Clark never had closure and that she got slammed in the door. She’s ticked).

Clark seems confused, almost as if he doesn't understand Chloe. There is a long pause, panning out to a Two Shot, where Chloe is now staring daggers.

Well anyway, the scene continues, but you get the idea.

What I got from this scene, was that Chloe is 1) pretty annoyed her Brainiac powers are gone 2) she doesn’t feel like she had closure on her relationship with Clark or with Davis for that matter and 3) She’s mad at Clark about something (you could feel the tension) 4) She doesn’t seem too happy with her life. 5) Chloe thinks Clark slammed her in the door.

This scene was all about Chlark if you ask me. It also makes me think Chloe could be hiding something from Clark.

Does she actually remember everything that happened while she was Brainiac? Could she remember that Clark didn’t let her have all of her memories back? Is she not happy with her life?

I honestly believe there was more to the scene than meets the eye, and I think it all comes down to subtext, and this scene was filled with it.

Did anyone else feel the tension in this scene? Because I thought it was oozing off the screen. Any other interpretations? Because I just wasn't seeing Chloe pimping out Clois. Her body language, tone, facial expressions and the subtext written seemed to be telling me otherwise.

But then again, maybe Allison Mack was having a cranky day, and she was interpreting the dialogue written in an angry fashion.

I personally didnt hear anger until the last line. Which was dripping with it.
She was basically saying "Dont screw my cousin over Clark, and if you're planning on it..be gentle. It sucks to be the last point on the triangle!" Definitely a warning tone to her voice.

[Black Panda]

Screenwriting 101: Subtext is everything.
Hmm, I agree that the subtext is the thing here.

If Lois is to suffer, it's just more SWF and a pale shadow of what Chloe's been through
To me the scene is more about Chloe being irritated by the Clana that just will not die, and remembering her own pain. Nice that she doesn't want to put Lois through it, and all, but to bring Lois into it reminds up of the long- standing Chlarkana triangle and comparative suffering and sacrifice between the cousins.

I agree, there is a side helping of Chloe feeling irritated with where her life is right now. She's scoobying, but it feels hard, both without ease of Brainiac and probably because the easy partnership with Clark isn't there.

Anyhow, it didn't improve the epidode, but it didn't bug me much either.

[Clana4Life]

I wish Chloe would stop alluding to herself when talking about knowing from firsthand experience. How many times is she going to say that? She made herself the third point in that triangle. Clark and Lana didn't pull her in. Actually it was never a triangle. This is something Chloe has conceived in her mind. Clark was never torn over his feelings for Lana and Chloe. If he were, then it would have been a triangle. It was always Lana.

[unex||den||adel]

u know topping82, i was actualy thinking the same way u did. i just knew it wasnt abt clois, its abt chloe. how she feels. she walked that line before, she's the 3rd wheel, so she knew hows the feels.

the feeling of "clark still chosen LAna after everything'. Then who is her(chloe)?
just his place to turned while he's in trouble ONLY? well, i think she has better things to do , then...

her reaction is same in sooner episode of smallville---season 1 2 3 4 5 & some 6.

just remmbe this kinda reaction whenever she knew Lana n clark planning on getting a date but clark have no guts on telling her, n both keep avoiding her, but somehow, she knew it. That kinda bitter reaction. Its more than bitter. Its a massive slash at the heart that could make u wanna cry. i believe everyone experienced that. its usaly happen to the "unreturned" love.


yes. why Lois? why not her? seemslike clark can fall for whoever, EXCEPT chloe. That was just plain hurt. By the same time, she have to act like she's moving on. But the words said. Loud n clear. " how could u stop loving someone".

that line means both ways, clana n chlark.

we all agreed chloe USED to love clark b4. so thats explain the line PERFECTLY. (no mater how much she keep pining that she's over him)

she did look disturbed, n i dont think its AM who played the character. Its chloe. She love her cuz, she know the feelings, she know how much lois's hurt with Olie, n she didnt want a repeat case.

Chlo-Lo still strong despite the chlarkers VS cloiser that we have here. lets just look at their perpective. they are family. She's the only family Chloe have left. Chloe would sacrifice her life for LOis. that shows how much she do care abt Lois.

[Clana4Life]

Before she met Jimmy, Chloe would have been jealous as heck if Lois and Clark together. So I don't know about this cousinly-love. It's fine for Clark and Lois to get together now, because she has Jimmy. But she wasn't so supportive back during Season 5. I'm surprised she didn't mention the Chloe-Clark-Lois triangle. Would she consider herself the point in that one too?

[unex||den||adel]

^ as u said, b4 she meet jimmy. now she " claim " she have jimmy, and her old feelinhs put aside.


maybe she didnt mention it coz its not even a triangle. clark n lois never really hook up.

[Clana4Life]

^ as u said, b4 she meet jimmy. now she " claim " she have jimmy, and her old feelinhs put aside.


maybe she didnt mention it coz its not even a triangle. clark n lois never really hook up.

To me it wasn't a triangle when Clark and Lana were together. Chloe was never in that equation. Clark never felt like he had to choose. It's just very interesting that now that she's with Jimmy, she's all for Clois. I never will forget the look on her face in Season 5, when she thought that there was something between Clark and Lois. She was not happy. I hope she remembers the triangle speech when she's in one - i.e., Jimmy-Chloe-Davis. It would be nice of Clark to remind her.

[unex||den||adel]

^ ya, i wud LOVE to see that...

[Sunny8]

The Chlark scene was welcomed after seeing Lana with Clark at the hospital yammering about him turning heads left and right just because he was wearing a shirt and tie. I'm glad he said that he was too busy at work to notice (hint! hint!). God woman! Can't you see that he is busy?:(

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but the scene was important because we knew that the almost-kiss was because Clark felt alone, he has no feelings for Edlois as many thought

Interesting. So Clark is just a jerk and a user? He uses any female around him just because he cannot get to Lana? Not Superman-like or honorable. Also, it is hypocritical as he was very upset in season 4 in the Bound episode when he found out that Lex had used and hurt all those women.

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How does Chloe knows that Lois has feelings for Clark ??? :confused: ... Offscreenville I am sure :rolleyes:

Jimmy told her.

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To me it wasn't a triangle when Clark and Lana were together. Chloe was never in that equation.

She was never physically involved in the triangle but emotionally she was. She loved Clark but she also was a friend to Lana and Clark to the point that they told her about their true feelings in some areas but could not tell each other. They did put Chloe in the triangle to a certain extent without any regards to her feelings. But, on the other hand, she let them. She could have bowed out but she wanted to be a friend to each of them despite her unrequited feelings towards Clark.

[Lazy Boy]

Great post topping82
It is equally important to pay attention to the subtext as it is to the dialogue.

So it's the same writer from Committed eh? Two incredibly boring episodes in a row? Why are they keeping this guy??? Is he a secret implant from Dawn with the task of writing excruciating boring episodes for Smallville so that viewers numbers goes down and therefore Dawn can say no more Smallville????

Yeah, that will be right....

[MeKa]

This is an intense scene between them actually. While Clark is talking about Lana, the line also becomes about Chloe’s own feelings. She may be married to Jimmy, but how do you stop loving someone?

This I did pick up. She's still in love with Clark but resigned to her feelings. She knows what it's like to be "slammed in the door" by the BDA. Her feelings were brought up again I believe in Prey when Davis asks about feeling a certain way for someone (I paraphrase). Clearly she wasn't talking about Jimmy.

Also I really wish someone would post a pic of the guy Chloe is engaged to Apocalypse. He was a cop too right? I don't know but I couldn't help thinking of him and the fact that for a few hours, Clark too was a cop.

[Dustmite]

I would have been perfectly happy if AM was only in 21 episodes this season and missed this one.

What a waste this whole episode was.

Oh yes.

Although AM looked hot. I've just watched their scene and all I could think was, "my God those two people on the screen are insanely hot." She's looking really beautiful this season because normally I can't take my eyes off Clark.

And when she spoke about being hurt by the Clana. Oh Chloe baby :(

[Ayanne]

Oh yes.

Although AM looked hot. I've just watched their scene and all I could think was, "my God those two people on the screen are insanely hot." She's looking really beautiful this season because normally I can't take my eyes off Clark.

And when she spoke about being hurt by the Clana. Oh Chloe baby :(

The scene made no sense, & was more contrived BS for EDLois.

Chloe who has been controlled & mindraped by Brainiac, & then Clark taking away her memories, a bogus wedding, kidnapped by Doomsday & she's upset about her lame cousin who's been with man, after man, after man?

What craptastic writing, & total bullcrap. Just another example of how contrived everything EDLois is.

[Bizarrolover]

I really loved that scene because it showed a mature Chloe that not only shows she's over her infatuation with Clark but it also shows how much she cares about her cousin and her BFF. I think her advice was not only about preserving Lois' feelings. It was also a warning for Clark. He's repeating his mistakes and is still insisting on this unheatly relationship that never worked. I guess in the next episode he'll start to see t hings for what they are and that perfect image he has of Lana will begin to taint.

[Kalista]

Also I really wish someone would post a pic of the guy Chloe is engaged to Apocalypse. He was a cop too right? I don't know but I couldn't help thinking of him and the fact that for a few hours, Clark too was a cop.


I couldn't stop thinking about that either.

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[RedKRules]

The scene made no sense, & was more contrived BS for EDLois.

Chloe who has been controlled & mindraped by Brainiac, & then Clark taking away her memories, a bogus wedding, kidnapped by Doomsday & she's upset about her lame cousin who's been with man, after man, after man?

What craptastic writing, & total bullcrap. Just another example of how contrived everything EDLois is.

That scene was totally contrived .... seriously Chloe please don´t become a relationship analyst again, just leave Clois and Clana get their mess up cleaned on their own, come on girl take care of yourself, you have just been taken over a computer powerplay wanna be .... I really wish Chloe was single again, when she had some hard core ambitious for her own life projects ... that is why Reporter!Chloe needs to come back steady ...... real soon hear me PS3?!

and PS3 don´t try to drag what happened in Abyss any longer, just let Chlark have the talk and get this over with ..... you better give her a dang of reaction.

and I am sure many people will love you again Chloe, you have just done your part in the Clois pimpage.

[eas]

Before she met Jimmy, Chloe would have been jealous as heck if Lois and Clark together. So I don't know about this cousinly-love. It's fine for Clark and Lois to get together now, because she has Jimmy. But she wasn't so supportive back during Season 5. I'm surprised she didn't mention the Chloe-Clark-Lois triangle. Would she consider herself the point in that one too?

I guess the point is that Lois wasn't interested in him. One of the things they handled right on this show was that they didn't have the two cousins be interested in Clark at the same time. It would have been terribly OOC for Lois to fall for Clark, if she had any hint that Chloe was interested in him. Lois doesn't fall for Clark until Chloe is engaged and that makes sense.

[RedKRules]

I couldn't stop thinking about that either.

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George is hottttttttt :eek:

[AndiGirl]

George is hottttttttt :eek:

Davis is hotter! :p:lol:

But yes, I noticed the similiarities....Clark/George being cops. ;)

[Kalista]

I thought it was strange when Clark said that things were back to normal in the Chlark scene while his colors are inverted.

[eas]

I actually didn't like the Chlark scene that much tonight. I felt like what Chloe said came out of left field. We've never seen any indication that Chloe has picked up on anything related to Clois. That's the problem with Clois. Too much happens in offscreenland and they just act like it's so obvious to everyone else. There's no reason they couldn't give Clois real scenes that show the viewers that they like each other and are slowly falling for each other. It's just rushed and anvils and people just randomly saying things about "we can tell you like each other." I though Chloe was a little hard on Clark. He and Lois are not even in a relationship. Why does he have to worry about hurting her. This is jumping the gun big time. Why did Chloe call Lois the point in the triangle. Clois has had an "almost kiss". What Chloe said didn't make sense and I'm pretty sure Lois would have wanted her to keep her mouth closed. Lois needs to be the one to say how she feels and what hurts her. I didn't like the scene.

I agree with you that it's not Chloe's place to talk about Lois's feelings, if Lois has confided in her.

But the sense I got was that this was more about Chloe referencing things she's picked up on. And, yes, we have gotten this before. Chloe had a very pointed convo with Clark about this in "Toxic"... in "Committed" and "Bride", she had a conversation with Lois about Lois trying to find her "One" and she even used the term, "Superstud".

Chloe knows Clark pretty well and I think she'd have to be totally out of it not to see the changes and shifts in the Clois relationship since Clark started working at the Planet. And my argument would be that this all played out onscreen -- not offscreen.

I think Chloe wasn't talking on Lois's behalf. I think she was making an observation... and she had loyalty towards her cousin, so she stuck that in there.

It echoed Lois's comment to Clark about breaking his legs if he hurt Chloe. These are as close as sisters (so we've been led to believe) and Chloe's response to the convo rung true, to me.

[marikology]

I didn't see Chloe encouraging or pimping Clois. It was a sad, awkward conversation, not hopeful or encouraging at all. I think it was more an acknowledgement that Lois' feelings are obvious, and she can tell that Lois is exactly where she was in S2 when Clark was chasing after Lana but oblivious to Chloe. The only difference is that Clark almost kissed her in Bride, so, like Chloe said, he opened the door a bit, even though clearly, he has no intention of pursuing her. He acknowledged that he's been too busy to notice if he's turning heads, and had no hesitation picking back up with Lana. Lois might be just as in love with Clark as Chloe was back then, but it didn't do her any good then and it certainly doesn't guarantee Clois will get together anytime soon.

Lois probably told her that Clark almost kissed her at the wedding (she doesn't remember), while they have been together in Star City. Seeing as how Chloe's married, I doubt Lois has any hesitation talking about possibly hooking up with Clark.

This is an intense scene between them actually. While Clark is talking about Lana, the line also becomes about Chloe’s own feelings. She may be married to Jimmy, but how do you stop loving someone?

This I did pick up. She's still in love with Clark but resigned to her feelings. She knows what it's like to be "slammed in the door" by the BDA. Her feelings were brought up again I believe in Prey when Davis asks about feeling a certain way for someone (I paraphrase). Clearly she wasn't talking about Jimmy.
I picked it up too. I also didn't miss Chloe's sad, wistful look and non-answer when Clark asked, "You can't just stop loving someone, right?" IMO, if Chloe were truly over Clark, she would be able to be happy with Jimmy (Hex says neither one of them are) and Clark's feelings for Lois would be beyond maybe-ambiguity.

The thing about Chlark is that it's just about on the same level as Clana, only in a *different* way. The emotional intimacy they have as friends is already there, which is why I still believe Chlark is the endgame. I don't see the return of Clana to be a hindrance to Chlark, because Clana has always been big a part of Chlark. Clois, on the other hand, isn't at that level, I find it hard to believe that Clark could move on from Lana by 14 and be ready to start something with Lois by the end of the season. IMO, Chloe doesn't either, which is why she cautioned Clark, and I don't mind that. I don't think Chloe thinks they have something special between them, but the knowledge that they almost kissed, IMO, is enough for her to warn him not to take it any further if he doesn't really mean it.

[HeartChakraBabe]

I also didn't miss Chloe's sad, wistful look and non-answer when Clark asked, "You can't just stop loving someone, right?"

"And Chloe would know all about that," I said, irritably, to my sister as we were watching it last night. We both play for the Chlark team, and so of course she agreed with me. :D

It never fails to irk me, and this was no exception, how completely freaking oblivious Clark is to Chloe's feelings. The way he says all this stuff right in front of her -TO her- with apparently no thought as to how she might feel. Now, of course, he thinks she's over him (Yeah, right. Chloe, honey, stop fooling yourself; you're never gonna be happy with Jimmy when he has Clark to measure up to.) But this has been going on for years. It's like Clark doesn't spare a thought as to how what he says might affect her! He's so thick-headed it's not surprising he can bounce bullets off his skull.

[Ayanne]

That scene was totally contrived .... seriously Chloe please don´t become a relationship analyst again, just leave Clois and Clana get their mess up cleaned on their own, come on girl take care of yourself, you have just been taken over a computer powerplay wanna be .... I really wish Chloe was single again, when she had some hard core ambitious for her own life projects ... that is why Reporter!Chloe needs to come back steady ...... real soon hear me PS3?!

and PS3 don´t try to drag what happened in Abyss any longer, just let Chlark have the talk and get this over with ..... you better give her a dang of reaction.

and I am sure many people will love you again Chloe, you have just done your part in the Clois pimpage.


What makes a real Hero, is admitting your mistakes & Clark saw how taking Chloe's memories was a HUGE mistake, & yet he didn't tell her the truth about it. It' ridiculously bad writing to have all the issues of real depth pushed aside for some stupid, contrived garbage about EDLo's pining.

Get back to me, when Clark acknowledges that Chloe sacrificed over & over again for him. She lost her job unfairly protecting him, & rather than respect her wishes, he mindrapes her.

Lois probably told her that Clark almost kissed her at the wedding (she doesn't remember), while they have been together in Star City. Seeing as how Chloe's married, I doubt Lois has any hesitation talking about possibly hooking up with Clark.


EDLo whining about HERSELF you say? After knowing Chloe was abducted by a monster? Selfish bint, as always.

[skye4376]

the way that i saw the chlark scene was that chloe was telling clark that she has noticed feelings from both clark and lois toward each other. even we as the viewers have seen their feelings for each other come out more this season. so what chloe was really trying to say in a subtle way was "clark don't regress, progress." she was also saying that just because lana has just came back into your life, don't forget what you were feeling before.

[marikology]

even we as the viewers have seen their feelings for each other come out more this season.

Sorry, can't agree there. Before the almost-kiss in Bride, I didn't see any attraction on Clark's part.

It never fails to irk me, and this was no exception, how completely freaking oblivious Clark is to Chloe's feelings.
Yeah, it bothers me too. But he does it to everyone. (I'm reminded of "Ageless" when he was whining about "I'll probably never be able to have kids!" in front of Jonathan and Martha.)

[Ayanne]

Sorry, can't agree there. Before the almost-kiss in Bride, I didn't see any attraction on Clark's part.


Yeah, it bothers me too. But he does it to everyone. (I'm reminded of "Ageless" when he was whining about "I'll probably never be able to have kids!" in front of Jonathan and Martha.)


ITA, Clark is all about Lana, & he didn't give EDlois a 2nd thought.

[Clana4Life]

I agree with you that it's not Chloe's place to talk about Lois's feelings, if Lois has confided in her.

But the sense I got was that this was more about Chloe referencing things she's picked up on. And, yes, we have gotten this before. Chloe had a very pointed convo with Clark about this in "Toxic"... in "Committed" and "Bride", she had a conversation with Lois about Lois trying to find her "One" and she even used the term, "Superstud".

Chloe knows Clark pretty well and I think she'd have to be totally out of it not to see the changes and shifts in the Clois relationship since Clark started working at the Planet. And my argument would be that this all played out onscreen -- not offscreen.

I think Chloe wasn't talking on Lois's behalf. I think she was making an observation... and she had loyalty towards her cousin, so she stuck that in there.

It echoed Lois's comment to Clark about breaking his legs if he hurt Chloe. These are as close as sisters (so we've been led to believe) and Chloe's response to the convo rung true, to me.

We've seen some interaction between Clark and Lois. I've seen more on the side of Lois as far as feelings go. I don't know how Lois fell in love with Clark so fast. I know some believe they were in love since Season 4, but I don't. Grant Gabriel was a big part of her life last season, but oh well...Nonetheless, it can't be denied that she's now in love with Clark. Chloe hasn't seen anything....unless she saw the almost kiss. I don't think she did because she was too busy dancing with Jimmy and looking at the door (when she saw Lana enter.) So I just wish they had shown onscreen that Chloe was picking up on things. Otherwise her argument comes out of left field to me and she requires that Clark not hurt her cousin's feelings when Clark never put Lois in a place (knowingly) to be hurt. It just felt like Chloe was budding in a bit.

[Jill]

I'm a Chlarker, I'm so devoted to Chlark, that's for sure.
But...I didn't like the Chlark scene in this episode.
I felt like this was old school, I mean, Clark goes to Chloe for help, Chloe looks whatever up, Chloe helps Clark, blah, blah blah. I LOVE them, I really do, but it's like, the 2 seconds Chloe's on-screen, they just talk about what happened to John Jones.
Yes, they do have some little conversation about her past Brainiac status but still...
What about her memory back? nothing about that?
I liked that she mentioned Lois though...and when Clark said that line about Lana, I kinda felt bad for Chloe all over again, her face was...I don't know.

At least that's my opinion.

[Clana4Life]

Chloe kind of forgot that she's Lana's friend, too.

[morena]

We've seen some interaction between Clark and Lois. I've seen more on the side of Lois as far as feelings go. I don't know how Lois fell in love with Clark so fast. I know some believe they were in love since Season 4, but I don't. Grant Gabriel was a big part of her life last season, but oh well...Nonetheless, it can't be denied that she's now in love with Clark. Chloe hasn't seen anything....unless she saw the almost kiss. I don't think she did because she was too busy dancing with Jimmy and looking at the door (when she saw Lana enter.) So I just wish they had shown onscreen that Chloe was picking up on things. Otherwise her argument comes out of left field to me and she requires that Clark not hurt her cousin's feelings when Clark never put Lois in a place (knowingly) to be hurt. It just felt like Chloe was budding in a bit.
I honestly think she wants to be in love with Clark. especially because he sees a common man, not a hero as GA, the person who wil put her first place, someone who does not have to share with the world, as she said to Clark in Siren

[Sue Denim]

Did anyone else feel the tension in this scene? Because I thought it was oozing off the screen. Any other interpretations? Because I just wasn't seeing Chloe pimping out Clois. Her body language, tone, facial expressions and the subtext written seemed to be telling me otherwise.

Yes topping82. I read your post this morning, but I didn't have time to reply appropriately, I have had a while to digest your thoughts, and I think I can support your take 100%. The only think I felt was over-emphasized was perhaps the take that Chloe's majorly ticked that she doesn't have the Brainiac influence any more. I saw Chloe bring that up as more or less a touch stone between her and Clark. I think she does feel inconvenienced, but doesn't truly miss being Chloiac. I think she said more or less to get underneath Clark's skin. Clark got very defensive over Chloe in Legion, and I have to wonder if Chloe picked up on it at all. Maybe she wanted to see if Clark still thought that way about things.

The scene they had before was the slightly off scene where Chloe give Clark permission to off her. His message back to her is that the scenerio will never happened, so she doesn't have to worry about it. The thing is, it did, and he chose her over the world, or would have done so.

I think Chloe was seeking some reassurance from Clark on his reactions to her "Legion", thus the little game here. Asking Clark straight out what he feels doesn't seem to be an option.

She's scoobying, but it feels hard, both without ease of Brainiac and probably because the easy partnership with Clark isn't there.

Why isn't it there though? Shouldn't it be? Is it because Chloe's distracted by something else, or is it that Chlark never gets resolution, or is it actually Chloe's dismay that Clana's about to start up again?

I couldn't stop thinking about that either.

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One of my favorite examples of foreshadowing. Calling "George Dean" "Brandon Thomas" would have been too much of a give away. Also, I love Chloe's smile iin this cap.

Whomever said that TWClark's hair was styled like George's has good eyes. I agree.

Anyone else get intrigued by the books Chloe was packing in her bag? She was also packing books in Legion at the Talon.

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Chloe hasn't seen anything....unless she saw the almost kiss. I don't think she did because she was too busy dancing with Jimmy and looking at the door (when she saw Lana enter.) So I just wish they had shown onscreen that Chloe was picking up on things. Otherwise her argument comes out of left field to me and she requires that Clark not hurt her cousin's feelings when Clark never put Lois in a place (knowingly) to be hurt. It just felt like Chloe was budding in a bit.

A part of me thinks that Chloe knows Clark so well, she doesn't have to see Clois to know that something could be there. She probably does get interesting feedback from Clark and Lois respectively, but we haven't seen any of it. As far as almost kiss in Bride, Chloe admits to not remembering much after "Her Comes the Bride".

I don't think show will address this at all. I don't buy Clois, but I can buy that Chloe does--much the same way she accepted Clana.

I think she's hurt as topping82 has already posted. The third point has been switched for Lois, as Chloe alludes to with Clark, (thanks BP)

[Black Panda]

Why isn't [the easy partnership] there though? Shouldn't it be? Is it because Chloe's distracted by something else, or is it that Chlark never gets resolution, or is it actually Chloe's dismay that Clana's about to start up again?
I think they were distanced by Brainiac systematically the first half of the season. Chloe has the divided loyalties of Jimmy too. And of course the Clana which is never good news.

[unex||den||adel]

i re watched bulletproof. she said something abt not slamming ppl on the door. i cant help myself from getting this thoughts. (again). this is my thoughts.

back at vessel, jimmy came at the perfect moment.right after clark re-visit chloe's "end of the world lip-locking action" earlier. there's the moment there, where we can see clark gave chloe "the look". and there was jimmy. i think, at the moment, chloe use jimmy as her "closure". Time goes by, their r/ship on & off.

Maybe the phrase "u don't slam people on the door " is referred to jimmy. she knows the feeling, n don't wanna make jimmy feel what she felt while with clark.


make sense?

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Y
Anyone else get intrigued by the books Chloe was packing in her bag? She was also packing books in Legion at the Talon.



in which episode?? i must've miss that.

[MeKa]

I couldn't stop thinking about that either.

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Kalista! Thank you so much. They look adorable and yes a definite Clark replacement. :-)

[RedKRules]

I'm a Chlarker, I'm so devoted to Chlark, that's for sure.
But...I didn't like the Chlark scene in this episode.
I felt like this was old school, I mean, Clark goes to Chloe for help, Chloe looks whatever up, Chloe helps Clark, blah, blah blah. I LOVE them, I really do, but it's like, the 2 seconds Chloe's on-screen, they just talk about what happened to John Jones.
Yes, they do have some little conversation about her past Brainiac status but still...
What about her memory back? nothing about that?
I liked that she mentioned Lois though...and when Clark said that line about Lana, I kinda felt bad for Chloe all over again, her face was...I don't know.

At least that's my opinion.

It reminded me of all those times Chloe has supported Clark and Lana, even if it hurt her, I don´t really wanna see the same thing with Clois, please writers can you just not put Chloe in the middle of the Cloisana problems ....´please please please.

[cloisornothing]

How does Chloe knows that Lois has feelings for Clark ??? :confused: ... Offscreenville I am sure :rolleyes:Maybe when she was dancing with Jimmy (before Lana revealed herself, and after Chloe did some "boogie" with Clark).

Or, I think that certainly while Lois was comforting Jimmy (after the attack in Bride, when Brainiac had been extracted from Chloe), Chloe could heard significant things towards the Clois stuff.

Here is my thought about the Chlark scene in Bulletproof : Clark is a very very bad liar. he DOES love Lois. But he doesn't know how to cope up with that (above all, since Lana is back!). Clark is regressing since Lana is back, he was kind of accepting what he has to do, but now, we have the teenage Clark back. You know kind of : "Oh Lana, I always loved you but you don't trust me blablabla..."

Come on! Clark is supposed to become Superman not simpleman! :rotfl:

I think that Lois is yet the key for him to become the man he is supposed to be. Why? Because Lana (according to spoilers and previous seasons) always lied to him for not necessarily good reasons, and because Lois never asked herself why he did this or that, she just trust him, that's the difference.

The problem is that both of them have feelings and do not know how to cope up with that and they are both stubborn. At one moment, one will let the mask down.

Again : A HUGE thank you Chloe!!!!!

[Bizarrolover]

What makes a real Hero, is admitting your mistakes & Clark saw how taking Chloe's memories was a HUGE mistake, & yet he didn't tell her the truth about it. It' ridiculously bad writing to have all the issues of real depth pushed aside for some stupid, contrived garbage about EDLo's pining.

Get back to me, when Clark acknowledges that Chloe sacrificed over & over again for him. She lost her job unfairly protecting him, & rather than respect her wishes, he mindrapes her.



EDLo whining about HERSELF you say? After knowing Chloe was abducted by a monster? Selfish bint, as always.

I think you are being a little harsh and unfair here. First, I don't think this episode was the right one to discuss the memory loss. It deserves a more elaborated scene and given the limited time AM had on screen due to her directing obligations, having that conversation here would have been a little contrived and would not have the depth the matter requires.

Second, Chloe lost her job because she did everything that could possibly be done to get herself fired. She felt powerful and untouchable and began messing with her own boss (who she knew was a dangerous person) while accepting his paycheck. Chloe did a lot of risky things for Clark, but that was her decision to make and I remember everyone applauding her at the time because that earned her the title of the best sidekick on TV. For once, she could have said 'Clark, I have to pay the rent, just leave me out of this one', but she didn't, she loved that role too much to give it up. If she admitted that to herself once, I just can't understand why her fans can't and they are always throwing the blame of Chloe's misfortunes on Lois.

And third, how do you know Lois started whining about herself? How do you know it was not Chloe the one who asked? how do you know they didn't discuss the abduction first? You know, when you sit by a sick person for hours, you tend to talk about almost everything with the other person who is there with you. Try to be a little more objective about this.

[Kalista]

please writers can you just not put Chloe in the middle of the Cloisana problems

There is no "cloisana" and never has been despite what you may have heard in interviews. Reports of it's existence have been greatly exaggerated.

[Vindellavon]

There is no "cloisana" and never has been despite what you may have heard in interviews. Reports of it's existence have been greatly exaggerated.

I agree. There's Lois, and there's Clana. There's no mix between them. There never was.

[Kalista]

...and when Clark said that line about Lana, I kinda felt bad for Chloe all over again, her face was...I don't know.

At least that's my opinion.

IA She did look sad when Clark talked about how difficult it is to stop loving someone. She's not over Clark and she's not happy in her personal life. It's not just the stress of him being in the hospital either.

[Vindellavon]

IA She did look sad when Clark talked about how difficult it is to stop loving someone. She's not over Clark and she's not happy in her personal life. It's not just the stress of him being in the hospital either.

I agree. She looke annoyed.

[Kalista]

Chloe doesn't look happy. As usual, she's hiding her true feelings.

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[Dustmite]

Chloe doesn't look happy. As usual, she's hiding her true feelings.

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She sure does look pretty though. She's so lovely.

[morena]

Chloe doesn't look happy. As usual, she's hiding her true feelings.

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she's not over Clark

[disciples of zod]

she's not over Clark

*sigh* i kinda figured that.

~K

[Bigx07]

^^ And she plays it off so well but deep down inside she is hurting. she has already comes to term that she is only his best friend and nothing more.

[Vindellavon]

she's not over Clark

You'd have to be drunk not see the disappointment and hurt in Chloe's face when they were speaking of the true love/closure part. She's not over Clark, she never was. I think Jimmy was her rebound guy, and it's time to let him go.

[RedKRules]

Ohhh I totally agree with you ....... I think now she is Braianic free .... she has to be honest with Jimmy, and most important .... honest with herself, goshhhhh it makes me happy and scary at the same time how this show created such a bond as Chlark, because even the PS3 said that Chloe´s love for CK will never go away, why not explore Chlark ? Smallville is the present .... we all know what happens in the future...... why not do something different now, refreshing for a change? why not ??

Despite of happens on this show, Chlark will always be the best, honest, heartfelt relationship of TV I´ve seen for years, and I am truly proud of it :p!

[Sue Denim]

n which episode?? i must've miss that.

In "Legion" the final Chlark scene opens to Jimmy's shirts and a box of books. I keep meaning to look for a screencap to see what books are inside of it. I understand taking one or two books with you when you visit a loved one in a hospital or hospice situation, but several?

In "Bulletproof", Clark arrives as Chloe slips a stack of books into her bag.


What do you think? Why is Chloe boxing her books? Is she moving?

[morena]

Ohhh I totally agree with you ....... I think now she is Braianic free .... she has to be honest with Jimmy, and most important .... honest with herself, goshhhhh it makes me happy and scary at the same time how this show created such a bond as Chlark, because even the PS3 said that Chloe´s love for CK will never go away, why not explore Chlark ? Smallville is the present .... we all know what happens in the future...... why not do something different now, refreshing for a change? why not ??

Despite of happens on this show, Chlark will always be the best, honest, heartfelt relationship of TV I´ve seen for years, and I am truly proud of it :p!

Chlark and chlois can explain it
This is that makes interesting Chlois the endgame if they choose this way. we know Mythos's history and now that Clark work so hard to earn Lois's love
But why did this happen? The answer is because in the past (the past is Chlark) Chloe had suffered a lot for his obsession on Lana. As Chloe's story disappears, nobody heard it, did not know that this occurred. People only know the story from the moment she becomes ILL

[RedKRules]

In "Legion" the final Chlark scene opens to Jimmy's shirts and a box of books. I keep meaning to look for a screencap to see what books are inside of it. I understand taking one or two books with you when you visit a loved one in a hospital or hospice situation, but several?

In "Bulletproof", Clark arrives as Chloe slips a stack of books into her bag.


What do you think? Why is Chloe boxing her books? Is she moving?

these are good questions....

maybe she is probably moving to Metropolis for good ... :confused:

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Chloe doesn't look happy. As usual, she's hiding her true feelings.

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is it me .. or Chloe has a teary eye on the first one??? ..... or is it a light reflection ?? :confused::confused: Chloe over Clark...... not even close to that ... :)

[morena]

interesting in this episode is that Clark asked the help of Chloe, not Lana
even Clark knowing that she could help him, he preferred to work with Chloe (reminded Siren)

[Sue Denim]

interesting in this episode is that Clark asked the help of Chloe, not Lana


even Clark knowing that she could help him, he preferred to work with Chloe (reminded Siren)

Yes, that is strange. Lana would have been capable of doing the same thing, and Clark is probably capable too--when push comes to shove, he could do it.

So, why does Chloe help him, when she's wanting to get to Star City before Jimmy wakes up? I'm thinking Star City must be in Kansas too, because of the Oliver/Martha political interactions from s6. (Same with Coast City-- :eye roll: I really hate the way this show generalizes the geography of the plain states. It diminishes its credibility. Get a freakin' map!)

[Ace16]

Chloe doesn't look happy. As usual, she's hiding her true feelings.

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This is just a thought but maybe Chloe isn't Chloe because she I don't know killed someone?

Chloe has a lot to deal with right now and I'm thinking its much more then her past feelings with Clark.

[RedKRules]

Yes, that is strange. Lana would have been capable of doing the same thing, and Clark is probably capable too--when push comes to shove, he could do it.

So, why does Chloe help him, when she's wanting to get to Star City before Jimmy wakes up? I'm thinking Star City must be in Kansas too, because of the Oliver/Martha political interactions from s6. (Same with Coast City-- :eye roll: I really hate the way this show generalizes the geography of the plain states. It diminishes its credibility. Get a freakin' map!)

:lol: ... I know, well after they made Clark give that Prom flower to Chloe saying it was from homequeen ... I really got the sense they just don´t research at all :lol:

As usual Clark still loves and enjoy to investigate things with Chloe .... go Team Chlark!!!

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This is just a thought but maybe Chloe isn't Chloe because she I don't know killed someone?

Chloe has a lot to deal with right now and I'm thinking its much more then her past feelings with Clark.

Believe me I wanna see Chloe´s reactions and how the past events will shape her life now, more than anything else, a lot of THINGS needs to be brought up and explained .... oh yes that is for sure :)

[geminis]

I loved it. It was the best Chlark scene of the season for me. It was like the old days of SV, and most of all Chloe showed some loyality to Lois. I had no idea she knew about Clois, so I was really impressed that she did.

Hopefully we get another scene like tonight in next week's episode.

I'm agreeing with you, Cedric.

Loyal Chloe is awesome and I hope we do get another scene like this next week. But happier this time, please. I'm not so surprised that she knows about Clois, though, she may not be paid as a reporter anymore, but she still has the skills.

I have to agree that Chloe did seem hurt, though. Possibly for Lois and definitely for herself. While I don't like to see her in pain, it's an emotion she does really really well. (Probably because she has had so much experience *sniff, sniff*)

[Kalista]

In "Legion" the final Chlark scene opens to Jimmy's shirts and a box of books. I keep meaning to look for a screencap to see what books are inside of it. I understand taking one or two books with you when you visit a loved one in a hospital or hospice situation, but several?

In "Bulletproof", Clark arrives as Chloe slips a stack of books into her bag.


What do you think? Why is Chloe boxing her books? Is she moving?


I'm not sure it's indication that she's moving. Chloe has always been a reader so she may have been packing those books to occupy her time while at the hospital with Jimmy.

In Legion, I did notice that the title of one of the books was "Stolen Agenda".

[RedKRules]

Stolen Agenda, hmmm interesting :)

[Kalista]

This is just a thought but maybe Chloe isn't Chloe because she I don't know killed someone?

Chloe has a lot to deal with right now and I'm thinking its much more then her past feelings with Clark.

But what was the topic of discussion? If Clark said something along the lines of how he could never kill anyone and the camera cut to a somber or sad looking Chloe, then I could buy that.

But they were specifically talking about his relationship with Lana and how painful it was for her. You can see how Clark's words about loving someone affected her.

[morena]

I'm not sure it's indication that she's moving. Chloe has always been a reader so she may have been packing those books to occupy her time while at the hospital with Jimmy.

In Legion, I did notice that the title of one of the books was "Stolen Agenda".

I agree
Chloe knows that will stay for a long time in the hospital because of Jimmy's injuries, then she did not know when could return to the Talon, so she packed those books, she is the kind of girl who loves to read

[Tinyeppy]

I really like this scene it was sweet & straight to the point.

Chole just wanted Clark to know she's aware of the situation between him & Lois and she also knows what he's in the habit of doing when Lana is around. She sticking up for "family" because she's been there.

Beside Chole and Lois are close and she's gonna tell her cousin what ever she feels about Clana and Chole is probably gonna give Lois a warning about Clark.

Lois is no dumb girl and we all know she's also aware of Clana & Clarks behavior to this character that no longer really interests me in regards to Clark's personal life. She's an eyewitness to Clana. Lois's wall will be high and mighty. Good Luck Clark. LOL!

[Loisdragon]

I really like this scene it was sweet & straight to the point.

Chole just wanted Clark to know she's aware of the situation between him & Lois and she also knows what he's in the habit of doing when Lana is around. She sticking up for "family" because she's been there.

Beside Chole and Lois are close and she's gonna tell her cousin what ever she feels about Clana and Chole is probably gonna give Lois a warning about Clark.

Lois is no dumb girl and we all know she's also aware of Clana & Clarks behavior to this character that no longer really interests me in regards to Clark's personal life. She's an eyewitness to Clana. Lois's wall will be high and mighty. Good Luck Clark. LOL!

Amen

[cygnusx1]

Chloe doesn't look happy. As usual, she's hiding her true feelings.

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i dunno, it could be she would rather be at her husbands bedside then charks search engine.

[Kalista]

i dunno, it could be she would rather be at her husbands bedside

That doesn't fit into the context of the conversation.

[dhyane]

i just don't get it...why can't chlark be together???they are so perfect for each other..lana is going to go away and since ED's screentime is pretty much limited this season,why not explore a relationship between chloe and clark??and then possibly end the season with a chlarker!!! but you know what,no matter who it is that end up with clark(chloe,lana,lois,etc) superman will always be alone...superheroes with GFs or Wives is risky cuz they have so many enemies who will target their loved ones to hurt them..that is the weakness in the form of a relationship that superman/clark will have to forgo...

[Lazy Boy]

i just don't get it...why can't chlark be together???they are so perfect for each other..lana is going to go away and since ED's screentime is pretty much limited this season,why not explore a relationship between chloe and clark??

:lol: You are pretty much asking the question that we have been asking since day one of Smallville.
It's no secret that Clark will end up in a long term relationship with Lois but I would love Smallville to take the opportunity to explore a romantic relationship between him and Chloe. But you are right, they are wasting a lot of opportunities to do this.

As for the title of the thread, I thought that when Clark and Chloe were talking about him and Lois, the plot was going off course there. While it was nice of Chloe to stand up for Lois, it wasn't relevant to the overall episode storyline and really didn't serve any purpose. It was an example of bad writing which was prevalent throughout the whole episode.

[RedKRules]

=Lazy Boy;4377089As for the title of the thread, I thought that when Clark and Chloe were talking about him and Lois, the plot was going off course there. While it was nice of Chloe to stand up for Lois, it wasn't relevant to the overall episode storyline and really didn't serve any purpose. It was an example of bad writing which was prevalent throughout the whole episode.

So true, and Chloe only had 3 minutes or something, and they wasted it with relationship counseling .. :lol:

[actaeon]

I liked it because it shows that Chloe is really truly over Clark, she has moved on and is now sharing the wisdom of experience. She sees that he's in a budding relationship with Lois and how Lana's return could mean pain for her cousin. Her loyalty to Lois is paramount. She has been where Lois is now emotionally, and she's giving good advice to her friend Clark. She's very much in control in that scene, and I like that. She doesn't let Clark get away with excuses: she tells him he is in relationships with two women, Lois and Lana, and warns him he better be careful.

Chloe has been there, the third point of a triangle w/Clark, so she speaks from experience. But it's experience of the past. Past tense. Having gone through that pain herself has given her wisdom. Now she's using that wisdom to enlighten her BFF Clark, in the service of her cousin Lois.

So Chloe comes across as wise, kind-hearted, strong, and unselfish. She also comes across as observant. Clark is surprised that Chloe knows about him and Lois. Well duh, you BDA, "yes it is that obvious". Chloe really shines in that one scene-- it's one of her best.

[morena]

I liked it because it shows that Chloe is really truly over Clark, she has moved on and is now sharing the wisdom of experience. She sees that he's in a budding relationship with Lois and how Lana's return could mean pain for her cousin. Her loyalty to Lois is paramount. She has been where Lois is now emotionally, and she's giving good advice to her friend Clark. She's very much in control in that scene, and I like that. She doesn't let Clark get away with excuses: she tells him he is in relationships with two women, Lois and Lana, and warns him he better be careful.

Chloe has been there, the third point of a triangle w/Clark, so she speaks from experience. But it's experience of the past. Past tense. Having gone through that pain herself has given her wisdom. Now she's using that wisdom to enlighten her BFF Clark, in the service of her cousin Lois.

So Chloe comes across as wise, kind-hearted, strong, and unselfish. She also comes across as observant. Clark is surprised that Chloe knows about him and Lois. Well duh, you BDA, "yes it is that obvious". Chloe really shines in that one scene-- it's one of her best.


she is not over Clark

as Kalista said: She did look sad when Clark talked about how difficult it is to stop loving someone. She's not over Clark and she's not happy in her personal life. It's not just the stress of him being in the hospital either.

[Bizarrolover]

she is not over Clark

as Kalista said: She did look sad when Clark talked about how difficult it is to stop loving someone. She's not over Clark and she's not happy in her personal life. It's not just the stress of him being in the hospital either.



I think that Chloe will never be completely over Clark, but she's knows she can't have him. I don't think she's losing her objectivity here. She knows Clark and how defenceless he is when it comes to all things Lana, she also cares about her cousin and knows very well the possible repercussions of the Clana melodrama happening all over again. She was thrown into that rollercoaster all too many times-

I'm not sure about not being happy with her life either, because this was her choice and I don't see Chloe as the kind of girl that would submit to any kind of pressure or consent to a wedding she didn't want. After all the ons and offs she had with Jimmy in S7, she could have very rejected his proposal or set the wedding date two or three years ahead to give her time to think about what she was doing. But she didn't. She got married to a great guy that adores her and was almost cut in two to protect her. Jimmy might not be Clark, but he's no monster either.

[geminis]

I think that Chloe will never be completely over Clark, but she's knows she can't have him. I don't think she's losing her objectivity here. She knows Clark and how defenceless he is when it comes to all things Lana, she also cares about her cousin and knows very well the possible repercussions of the Clana melodrama happening all over again. She was thrown into that rollercoaster all too many times-

I'm not sure about not being happy with her life either, because this was her choice and I don't see Chloe as the kind of girl that would submit to any kind of pressure or consent to a wedding she didn't want. After all the ons and offs she had with Jimmy in S7, she could have very rejected his proposal or set the wedding date two or three years ahead to give her time to think about what she was doing. But she didn't. She got married to a great guy that adores her and was almost cut in two to protect her. Jimmy might not be Clark, but he's no monster either.

Exactly. This is why I don't get all the Chimmy hate. Nobody is perfect; even Clark has made some errors in the relationship arena, confirmed by Chloe in this scene.

Clark is still confused and caught in the Clana coaster. Chloe has learned a hard lesson that triangles hurt and while it is too late for her and Clark, she is standing up for her cousin and doesn't want to see Lois share the same fate.

You rock, Chloe!

[Dustmite]

The point is Clark made Lois no promises and they weren't in a relationship. Lois has fallen hard and fast for Clark but there is no triangle where one person is being cheated on. Clark is aware of her feelings, yes but he has his own to resolve.

[darkone]

She doesn't let Clark get away with excuses: she tells him he is in relationships with two women, Lois and Lana,

Wrong. Clark isn't in a relationship with Lois and with that he has zero obligations towards her. He never listened to Chloe's advices regarding his love life in the past and neither did he in Bulletproof and I say good for him.

[gem65]

Actually, Chloe did say that it was "obvious" how Clark and Lois were developing something. And in light of her previous comments about how much time the two of them spend together and the fact that even Ollie figured it out strongly suggests that the two of them are less than subtle around each other.

As for Clark loving Lana, I'm not sure why this surprises anyone since, well...he does love Lana. You and I know that it's destined to end (next episode in fact if I'm not mistaken), but he still has feelings for her. The thing I did notice was that he didn't deny having feelings for Lois as well. I mean he certainly doesn't love her like he loves Lana (his and Lois' love is something for the future), but he didn't even try to deny that "something" was there. And that IMHO spoke volumes.

So, as for the Clark and Chloe scene altogether I thought it was good. It reminded us that Clark and Lois were developing some kind of feelings for each other thus sticking to continuity yet reminded us that Clark does love Lana still so those feelings can't be explained away as "lightswitch!" the way some are want to do. Clark and Lana aren't going to work out and rather than simply turning off Clark's feelings for Lois in the interim while the Clana love fest progresses they are showing that Clark acknowledges something is there, but that he still has very strong feelings for Lana and will pursue those. When that crashes and burns it may even have something to do with those feelings for Lois he didn't deny. That's just speculation, but I think it would be a nice thing to add to the overall end of Clana as it will show that Clark truly has moved past Lana just the same way Chloe moved past Clark to find Jimmy.

Well said!!!

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I liked it because it shows that Chloe is really truly over Clark, she has moved on and is now sharing the wisdom of experience. She sees that he's in a budding relationship with Lois and how Lana's return could mean pain for her cousin. Her loyalty to Lois is paramount. She has been where Lois is now emotionally, and she's giving good advice to her friend Clark. She's very much in control in that scene, and I like that. She doesn't let Clark get away with excuses: she tells him he is in relationships with two women, Lois and Lana, and warns him he better be careful.

Chloe has been there, the third point of a triangle w/Clark, so she speaks from experience. But it's experience of the past. Past tense. Having gone through that pain herself has given her wisdom. Now she's using that wisdom to enlighten her BFF Clark, in the service of her cousin Lois.

So Chloe comes across as wise, kind-hearted, strong, and unselfish. She also comes across as observant. Clark is surprised that Chloe knows about him and Lois. Well duh, you BDA, "yes it is that obvious". Chloe really shines in that one scene-- it's one of her best.

I agree with you. On a side note, I like a lot of the posts for this particular topic. I like to read what other people are thinking.

[HeartChakraBabe]

Chloe doesn't look happy. As usual, she's hiding her true feelings.

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I know. :( I felt for her the entire scene. And Clark is, as I said earlier, completely oblivious to her feelings.

[Sue Denim]

Beside Chole and Lois are close and she's gonna tell her cousin what ever she feels about Clana and Chole is probably gonna give Lois a warning about Clark.

Possibly. I do think talking about boys is something the cousins have done in the past. I forget the name of the season six episode, but when Chloe meets Oliver, she says something like, "Oliver! I feel like I know you already. Lois talks so much about you."

I'm not sure if Lois would talk about Clark like that to Chloe--and I hope she wouldn't. Although I dislike the character I don't think she's that clueless about how inappropriate it would be for her to talk about how she flirts with Clark. Lois knows that Chloe had it bad for the big farm boy. She even understands Jimmy's frustrations with Chlark. I'm giving Lois the benefit of my doubt on this one. She wouldn't bring Clark up in a conversation involving her feelings for him with Chloe. If Chloe's noticed anything, it's because of what she hears from Jimmy, would be my guess.

Either that, or Chloe is lying when she says that she doesn't remember anything after, "Here Comes the Bride" and she remembers the almost Clois kiss.

It would be nice if Chloe did give Lois a warning about Clark though.


While it was nice of Chloe to stand up for Lois, it wasn't relevant to the overall episode storyline and really didn't serve any purpose. It was an example of bad writing which was prevalent throughout the whole episode.
I think plotwise, the purpose of the Chlark scene was so Chloe could create a secret identity for Clark as Joe Fordham. Interesting name. Joe = Jor-El, Fordham reminds me of Whitney.

[Black Panda]

Wrong. Clark isn't in a relationship with Lois and with that he has zero obligations towards her.
Well, he shouldn't lead her on unless he's serious, and there seems little to suggest he is. Chloe may have been disappointed to hear Clark was acting without thinking again. I always am.

I think plotwise, the purpose of the Chlark scene was so Chloe could create a secret identity for Clark as Joe Fordham.
Yeah, and reminding us of the long standing Chlarkana triangle, and showing us he's in no hurry to "grow past" asking for her assistance. So that's two secret identies she's created. Does "Nellie Bly" count. Am I missing any others?