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KryptonSite
12-31-2008, 12:58 AM
Count down to the December 31 episode of Knight Rider and then chat about it live with other fans as it airs!

SparkleforSmallville
12-31-2008, 04:28 PM
6hrs 32min.
I'm actually going to be home, on New Year's Eve, so I'll be watching:)

HAPPY NEW YEAR'S EVE!!!

KryptonSite
12-31-2008, 09:01 PM
So, did anyone watch? What did you think?

Not having any posts here makes me wonder if KITTSite or this forum were even worth it... such a drop from the TV movie :(

PHOENIXZERO
12-31-2008, 11:10 PM
I thought it was much better than I expected it to be, I know they did quite a bit of reshooting to fix it up as well as redoing KITT's dialog which had to be done to "fit" with the progression of the characters since this was the second episode shot as said in the Knight Writers blog. Some things bugged me, like again a electronic device (last time it was the Night Vision Goggles, this time the nano virus) survived the EMP and the weird flying thing, the Star Trekish shields and the photon torpedo. But this episode was much much better than the two that aired before it. I'm actually disappointed NBC put it on such a horrible night now. It makes a nice lead in for the transition episodes that start next week. I need to watch it again to really let it soak in however and see if it holds up. Oh and they actually used the whole cast!

Oh yeah! There was an awesome preview at the end too! :D

03 kal-el
01-01-2009, 04:32 AM
wonder how many ratings this got. i mean seriously why would they release a new episode on the day when it will be a new year. there will be lots of partying going on.

Antithesis
01-01-2009, 06:51 AM
I greatly enjoyed it. It seemed like a blending of the original episode "Killer KITT" and the one where he get push into the acid, and I think the blending worked well. Loks like people who didn't want as much sexual should be mostly happy too. The only thing we got was Billy ogling Sarah once or twice. They weren't even wearing anything really revealing at all. I don't even think there was cleevage.

Cromartiefan
01-01-2009, 09:15 AM
I liked it, although seeing as they're reducing the cast later on in the series this would have been a great way to show why the compound was destroyed and why the new cast is so small.

TransGoJoBot
01-01-2009, 12:21 PM
This episode was WAAAAYYYYYYYY Better then the rest have been. I am actually really looking forward to the next few episodes!

As for keeping Kittsite or not, I'd say give it to the end of the season and lets see if the reboot helps or not. My 2 cents.

SparkleforSmallville
01-01-2009, 12:38 PM
I really enjoyed this episode! I thought they were going to blow up the KITT Cave, cause the 3 actors, that are leaving, were in it.
Next week, looks awesome:)

Xanderman
01-01-2009, 10:26 PM
I thought it was awful. Lame, stupid, you get the idea.

Like Cromartiefan and Sparkle talked about, since they're planning on retooling/dropping cast members, why didn't they just have the place blow up and those guys die? Why the last minute save cliche? They had their chance right there, to just take out the whole unnecessary bunch in a blaze of glory. Then the ep could end on Mike, Sarah, and KITT, with Mike saying "Looks like we're on our own, from now on..." I would have cheered.

Happy New Year everyone.

hansioux
01-02-2009, 05:31 AM
i was also hoping they blow the compound up. but when Sarah's dad stayed I realized they were going through with it.

The Michael and FBI infighting is pretty cool, they've been setting it up for a while. They should have aired this a lot earlier to set the tone, but I guess they thought it'd be ok to have peace on the surface for a while. Too bad most fans turned away a lot earlier.

I personally enjoyed previous episode more than this one, because I don't like all the shields and nano-virus that looks like a transparent dog thing. And this is coming from a Scifi geeks who watched all the Star Trek, Babylon 5, Firefly and Battlestar Galactica.

The setting is present day. The tech should be advanced, but not to that level. I suppose they wanted to show the virus in some visual way so viewers can get the sense of urgency. Still... it takes me out of the show a little.

Other than that, the plot is ok.

Since I am a fan of BSG, I know what re-imagining series can get at the beginning. When Battlestar Galactica started original fans also hated it. They called it Battlesex Galactica. They were outraged that there are people Cylons, and Centurians can't talk, and Starbucks a girl.

To fans like that, you should just watch the original's DVD. Stop bashing the new show just becuase it doesn't fit in your ideas of the old show. Give the frakking new show some frakking space and frakking time, and try to keep an opened frakking mind.

Just because they showed more cleavage hardly makes it a lesser show than the original. And now they they don't show cleavage doesn't suddenly make it a better show either.

Those original BSG fans who stuck around the new show realized it's a different show using the same great concept and it is a great show.

So far, I have no real complaints about the new Knight Rider. But I do wish if they were gonna do away with the compound, they should have done it in this episode.

bobsuncorp
01-02-2009, 10:50 AM
Loved the episode, but at the end I couldn't help but remember that at some point they are going to cut 3 of the main characters. Dr Graiman, Torres and Revai. So we had a ticking self destruct clock, those 3 characters at risk, and I was really really hoping that they weren't going to just kill them all because the bloody interface to the self destruct wasn't working. Luckily that didn't happen, (although I am a little conflicted because it at least wouldn't have been dragged out).

Unlike most people, I actually want more sex. Did none of these naysayers ever watch Baywatch? Why can't you have a show with BPM (Breasts Per Minute - The Hoff's contribution to Baywatch when he took over as exec producer) and a good story?

Xanderman
01-02-2009, 01:14 PM
^sounds like you probably loved V.I.P. Lots of similarities to this new Knight Rider (the show's cars were provided by Ford there too I think). Problem with this type of approach is that it makes everything into a complete joke (pure camp). They should have just called this show "National Lampoon's Knight Rider" and been done with it. Personally I hope for a more serious approach after the retooling, perhaps modeled on something more like Supernatural. Rich storytelling with a fun mix of humor (Dean) and beautiful women (and for the ladies, good looking guys). Knight Rider is just mindless in comparison. Bad/lazy writers/showrunners. (Their formula is simply "fast cars + action + sex = tv series". Nowhere in that formula is good writing.)

hansioux
01-02-2009, 05:34 PM
Knight Rider is just mindless in comparison. Bad/lazy writers/showrunners. (Their formula is simply "fast cars + action + sex = tv series". Nowhere in that formula is good writing.)

the new Knight Rider feels nothing like V.I.P. The T&A in Knight Rider are situational , so you'd have one place in the plotline where T&A would take place because they are at a Las Vegas Hotel Swimming pool or whatever. Where as V.I.P. had their lead dressed in T&A outfit consistently, only to get out of those clothes when occasion comes for it. At least that's what I got out of it from the 1 or 2 episode I actually tried to watch.

As for bad writing, if you liked the pilot tv movie, I don't get what's the step down here in the regular season. I HATED the writing in the pilot.

I liked how they are putting a lot of substance into what can happen in the future. So far there are at least 5 outstanding threads to be revealed in the future.

1 Micheal's secret mission which caused his memory/identity lost.
2 What are Torres and Dr Graiman hiding?
3 Eventual Torres Micheal blow out.
4 Which side is Revai on?
5 KARR

And there's only been just 9th episodes for frak sake.

They are taking their time to plan a big and thoughtful outlook for the show, while trying to let the show remain campy and exciting. That's a good thing. The last thing I want is for Knight Rider to get all serious and take on a righteous tone to everything. If I want something that serious, I wouldn't be watching Knight Rider in the first place.

To me the only failing of the show so far is the lack of deeper character development. I just don't get the feeling that Micheal and KITT are really bonding that much since they are constantly interrupted by those in the compound.

I think they should write more episodes where satellite or wireless communications are monitored/disrupted by the bad guys, leaving Micheal and KITT alone to deal with the problem.

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By the way, the other reason I enjoyed this episode a little less than previous ones is the weapon on KITT.

Giving KITT ubertech and weapons can result to boring writting in the future. Want a door down? blow a hole on it. Want to get over a wall? Blow a hole on it. Having laser is one thing, having guns and missiles is frustrating.

I rather Micheal use the support tech on KITT, like the 3D object printer for example, so Micheal and KITT can put their heads together and get the mission done. Instead of just uberteching/guns blazing over every obstacle.

superspider02
01-03-2009, 01:37 AM
i enjoyed the episode thought the story was cool. I felt sorry for kitt during the episode. Though the techno virus was a bit out there. I hope it did well in ratings. Here's hoping the retooling helps the show out and we get a second season.

Radioflyer
01-03-2009, 02:07 PM
Star Trekish shields and the photon torpedo.
Oh yeah! There was an awesome preview at the end too! :DOh yeah! Here's hoping the rumors that they are trying to return to some of the essence of the old series is true, and that we see it in the next episode... because It hasn't happened yet.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----

Though the techno virus was a bit out there.
It was out there... You'd think they'd wait a while to Spock's Brian us.

Xanderman
01-03-2009, 04:45 PM
the new Knight Rider feels nothing like V.I.P. The T&A in Knight Rider are situational , so you'd have one place in the plotline where T&A would take place because they are at a Las Vegas Hotel Swimming pool or whatever. Where as V.I.P. had their lead dressed in T&A outfit consistently, only to get out of those clothes when occasion comes for it. At least that's what I got out of it from the 1 or 2 episode I actually tried to watch.

As for bad writing, if you liked the pilot tv movie, I don't get what's the step down here in the regular season. I HATED the writing in the pilot.I didn't think the tv pilot was all the great, quite mediocre actually. And the actual series is even worse, at least it was in the early going (certain aspects steadily improved). As for VIP being nothing like this, I'd have to disagree. I mean that show didn't just pop into my mind for nothing, there are reasons. While I haven't seen it in years, and even then I only watched it casually during channel surfing (mostly for the babes, lol), I do recall the style and premise of the series, and there are similarities. Main character played by Pam Anderson, bimbo/airhead eye candy. And on Knight Rider's side, we have Mike, a male bimbo/airhead. lol Ford cars. Skin and sexuality. "Teams". Cheesy writing and stories. Campy action scenes. Undercover/spy stuff. A-Team/Charlie's Angels style spoofing. They're not identical, but they definitely fall into a similar category.

VIP also had terrorist plots, bio/chemical/nuclear threats, spies, etc, from time to time. Which is Knight Rider's bread and butter. (As bad as VIP was, at least it had more variety, lol.)

And many of the episode titles worked "Val" into them (Pam Anderson=Vallery Irons), much like "Knight" is being put into each title (which the original KR did somewhat too, I know, but still, another thing VIP and KR have in common). There was an episode called "Hard Val's Night" for VIP. And in case you haven't noticed, Knight Rider's 4th ep was called "A Hard Day's Knight". lol

I think the Zoe character/actress really helped in bringing VIP front and center in my mind...she reminds me of Pam Anderson. The way she acts/talks, very similar (to me anyway).

Seriously, watch this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIAd2UqC6P8

You could take that clip, replace Pam with Zoe, and put it into an episode of Knight Rider, and believe me, it would be right at home.:cool: lol

PHOENIXZERO
01-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Remember, this episode was the second one shot, they did quite a bit of reshooting and redid KITT's dialog but it still wasn't meant to air this late. The next three or four episodes are going to be transitional episodes that lead up to the "new and hopefully improved" Knight Rider. These first nine episodes were almost all done before we even saw the first one. I think they were finishing up episode nine at the time A Knight in Shining Armor premiered.

hansioux
01-05-2009, 08:49 AM
I think the Zoe character/actress really helped in bringing VIP front and center in my mind...she reminds me of Pam Anderson. The way she acts/talks, very similar (to me anyway).

Seriously, watch this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIAd2UqC6P8

You could take that clip, replace Pam with Zoe, and put it into an episode of Knight Rider, and believe me, it would be right at home.:cool: lol

don't really see it. and Zoe is a side character in the new KR, while Pam/Val is THE character in VIP. Zoe gets less than 3 min. of screen time each episode, and Pam/Val gets ALL the screen time.

But then again, I never watched any episode of V.I.P. all the way through, so I don't know it as well as you do.

Like we've talked about before, the old Knight Rider doesn't have the best writing either. Especially in the background settings, where a rich dude alone had a super car made just so that one dude can drive it around to fight small crimes. It is pretty illogical for me, but since it isn't meant to be a serious show, more geared for fun and entertainment, it is accepted.

I do the same for the new knight rider, and it already has a lot more stuff built in the background. It isn't going to be the best show in the world, but it is quick, fun and painless, and that's why I watch either Knight Riders.

Radioflyer
01-05-2009, 12:05 PM
don't really see it. and Zoe is a side character in the new KR, while Pam/Val is THE character in VIP. Zoe gets less than 3 min. of screen time each episode, and Pam/Val gets ALL the screen time.

But then again, I never watched any episode of V.I.P. all the way through, so I don't know it as well as you do.

Like we've talked about before, the old Knight Rider doesn't have the best writing either. Especially in the background settings, where a rich dude alone had a super car made just so that one dude can drive it around to fight small crimes. It is pretty illogical for me, but since it isn't meant to be a serious show, more geared for fun and entertainment, it is accepted.

I do the same for the new knight rider, and it already has a lot more stuff built in the background. It isn't going to be the best show in the world, but it is quick, fun and painless, and that's why I watch either Knight Riders.The "rich dude" was an old guy and if I remember correctly he was dying when he recruited Michel.

superpal1
01-09-2009, 08:12 AM
Finally able to get a vacation and catch up on some of my favorite shows and Knight Rider is on of them. This episode was good and fun. That is what I am looking for in this show. It entertains me and is good enough to make me comeback each week. This episode felt a little bit like a filler, but the way they set up the future is good- talking about car, how the virus is a throw back experiment that was previous worked on by people in the team or associates of them. The trailer for the episode on my tivo that I will watch tonight looks great. I hope Knight Rider picks up in ratings, because they seem to have found the groove they wanted with the show.

Radioflyer
01-09-2009, 03:14 PM
Finally able to get a vacation and catch up on some of my favorite shows and Knight Rider is on of them. This episode was good and fun. That is what I am looking for in this show. It entertains me and is good enough to make me comeback each week. This episode felt a little bit like a filler, but the way they set up the future is good- talking about car, how the virus is a throw back experiment that was previous worked on by people in the team or associates of them. The trailer for the episode on my tivo that I will watch tonight looks great. I hope Knight Rider picks up in ratings, because they seem to have found the groove they wanted with the show.
There's potential. I'm hoping they keep the focus on action and adventure instead of skin.

cybevenom
01-10-2009, 03:59 PM
The rich dude was actually Wilton Knight who saved Michael Long after he'd been shot in his face. (funny enough he kept the same hair after plastic surgery) and he was just like michael tired of a brand of criminals who put themselves above the law. Michael Long was given the new identity of Michael Knight by Wilton before he passed away