View Full Version : How does Arthur know how to cure Gabriel's hunger?
Alexander III
11-17-2008, 09:30 PM
It seems like he knows EVERYTHING, what the heck?!?! It doesn't look like he has any other power other than telepathy prior to his temporary death? Even if he just got the powers from Peter, he can't possibly know the powers THAT well!
The good side to Gabriel is that he doesn't have to kill to get power but he's still turned out to be a bad guy in the future =)
JW_102792
11-17-2008, 09:44 PM
Well, Peter/Sylar's abilities seem to be very similar now, maybe Arthur's is too, and he's been through the hunger before.
Maybe Arthur's power-theft ability is just Peter's evolved, and he can choose to steal the power instead of just absorbing it, but he has to have physical contact. And when was he a bad guy in the future? He was fighting the hunger, (which now makes no sense that he's pretty much cured himself of it by finding out he can just be empathetic) the explosion wasn't his fault, he lost control of his power.
Merfish
11-17-2008, 10:43 PM
maybe they all have the exact same power...
JBW157
11-18-2008, 12:19 AM
so if they all have the exact same power, how come peter didn't have crazy hunger before he took sylar's power in the future? and before, sylars power was intuitive aptitude, and they just added empath to the list out of nowhere? eh, i guess we just have to play along.
spicyblark
11-18-2008, 06:29 AM
Maybe arthur has been watching Sylar all this time. he knew that he was his son and I doubt Arthur would let any opportunities pass by.
Yoshua
11-18-2008, 10:50 AM
so if they all have the exact same power, how come peter didn't have crazy hunger before he took sylar's power in the future? and before, sylars power was intuitive aptitude, and they just added empath to the list out of nowhere? eh, i guess we just have to play along.
The simplist answer is the easiest
Arthur is the epitome of awesome
Sylar knows how every thing works but never touched his emotions
Peter works only through emotion and is an idiot so doesn't have a clue how ANYTHING works.
Once Peter gets back in touch with emotions he can even out the hunger, once Sylar learns to touch his emotions he can even out the hunger. I doubt it will ever go away and I don't think he has cured it by any means, but there is a balance.
Arthur has found it. When he feels the hunger he takes someones powers, otherwise he doesn't need to. Also if they all have the same power? Arthur only needs to touch to steal permanantly.
taolbi
11-18-2008, 11:57 AM
Have a read on what was said on a thread i made
Yeah, it makes sense. Maybe not necessarily the environment part, but the same power completely makes sense, based on their attitude maybe.
Peter wanted to be special, wanted to help people, so he ended up with a power that gives him a ton of powers.
Sylar wanted to be special so bad it became an obsession, and it gave him a hunger to be special so much that he ended up taking powers by force. Now he's learning to do it the same way Peter does.
And Arthur, he wants powers because he's greedy (Thats how it seems anyways) so he completely removes the power from the person so he's better than them.
EDIT: Actually, the environment part might make a lot of sense. Maybe Sylar got his power the way it was because his mom supposedly tried to drown him, so one of the first things he knew was violence, so his power works by violence. Then maybe they can all do it the other ways if they want, they just have to learn. (Explaining his violence-empathy change)
Hopefulsuicide
11-18-2008, 11:07 PM
i like your explanation, but there is still so much that doesnt make sense too me
for one, if Sylar can now take the power without violence, which still satisfies his hunger... then why was he worried about giving his power to Peter? why when we saw him in the future did it seem like every day was still a struggle not too let it control him?
sil3nt
11-18-2008, 11:52 PM
i like your explanation, but there is still so much that doesnt make sense too me
for one, if Sylar can now take the power without violence, which still satisfies his hunger... then why was he worried about giving his power to Peter? why when we saw him in the future did it seem like every day was still a struggle not too let it control him?
In the alternate future, Arthur was never probably never revealed to be alive. The 'villain's who were with Arthur, before Peter rambo'd in would probably be the only ones to know his existence.
If it wasn't for Peter mindlessly getting captured, Sylar probably would've never met Arthur.
I'm assuming all this of course.
JW_102792
11-19-2008, 09:11 AM
What sil3nt said. If Peter never had Sylar's hunger, he never would've done most of the things he did, including going to see Arthur. So, Sylar would've never gone to rescue him, and would've never met Arthur to learn the new part of his power, and would still be fighting the hunger in the future.
Yoshua
11-19-2008, 09:54 AM
i like your explanation, but there is still so much that doesnt make sense too me
for one, if Sylar can now take the power without violence, which still satisfies his hunger... then why was he worried about giving his power to Peter? why when we saw him in the future did it seem like every day was still a struggle not too let it control him?
I doubt Sylar's hunger is under control. That isn't something they can turn off over night. I bet the future sylar knew it would take years for Peter to get it under control which is why he never taught peter the inuitive thing in the future.
littlefoo20
11-19-2008, 10:23 AM
i like your explanation, but there is still so much that doesnt make sense too me
for one, if Sylar can now take the power without violence, which still satisfies his hunger... then why was he worried about giving his power to Peter? why when we saw him in the future did it seem like every day was still a struggle not too let it control him?
Maybe he is trying to control the hunger because absolute power corrupts absolutly.
Litle bit more bizarre
11-20-2008, 09:44 AM
I think future Sylar didnt know about his emphaty so he still have hunger like good old Evil Sylar
Maybe Arthur know about curing Sylar because when he absorbed Peters powers he understand how thinks work and how to stop the hunger
littlefoo20
11-20-2008, 10:53 AM
Sylar should not lose the hunger. It keeps his character more interesting, to know that there is a constant battle going on within. If he was 100% good, then it would be boring. But knowing that he still has the hunger means he can lose it just like that.
Litle bit more bizarre
11-20-2008, 10:55 AM
who knows maybe hunger is not realy gone
Phantom X
11-20-2008, 12:21 PM
the way arthur wasexplaining,that sylar only kills cus he cant get the power any other way,the hunger is for power not to kill, but how ddoes this explain why peter almsot killd two people , cus he can get power in other ways, so why did he go psycho on future nathan and his mum, maybe the three petrelli's have diffferent versions,that developed in different ways, peters always ben caring, and sylar been logical,they both need to learn from each other, they will b like arthur i think,will peter get his powers back, and how,it would be kool if the eclipse took arthurs powers, and gave peter his, it would be peters turn to kick some ass
sil3nt
11-20-2008, 04:07 PM
but how ddoes this explain why peter almsot killd two people , cus he can get power in other ways, so why did he go psycho on future nathan and his mum
Because that hunger wasn't for abilities, but for knowledge and to see how and why their brains were thinking that way. Plus, he doesn't know what Arthur knows, so perhaps it's the thought that counts.
Seyee
11-21-2008, 01:56 AM
Simple answers to this question; 1) he has sylar ability when he absorbed Peter's ability; it's almost certain that Arthur has ALL of Peter's ability since he used so many of Peter's previous powers (Lightning, TK, Teleporting, Precognitive Pictures, and finally Sylar ability that was absorbed by Peter). Assuming that all the power he absorbs he has great control over them and understand their capabilities through his experience or perhaps he evolved kind of like how Matt evolved and became like his father.
2) Although it's unclear whether company or just Petrelli parents how they KNOW exactly what powers each of their family member has or other people probably because they have so much experience with other people powers since they caught so many for atleast 30-40 years(adam was held for that long).
Litle bit more bizarre
11-21-2008, 04:42 AM
I think only Arthur knows how to stop hunger and company didnt even know that Sylar is Petrelli before Angela said that to Sylar
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