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thebog1
11-05-2008, 09:49 PM
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eas
11-06-2008, 10:25 AM
You beat me to it. ;)

geminis
11-06-2008, 05:34 PM
I've got a bet that at least two (or more) threads involving specifically something that happened between Clark and Lois get posted outside of this thread after the episode airs because someone will feel like it needs it's own subject... Any takers?

I'm not taking that bet. :lol: Although there could be confusion between Lois and Faora/Lois...

LoveHurts38
11-06-2008, 06:15 PM
The Clois scenes better be good...will vote later.

rebecavaldez
11-06-2008, 06:18 PM
im so looking forward!

Aloof
11-06-2008, 06:30 PM
I can't wait to see what will happen! :)

Carolina87
11-06-2008, 08:10 PM
Clois Is Here People!!!!

individuall
11-06-2008, 08:14 PM
i loved the scenes tonight...Clark was Lois' hero!
And Lois didn't want to leave without Clark...Kara had to literally push her into the portal..And...
"I'll be right behind you"
"You better be!"

I love Clois

Oh and can't forget the best line EVER!
"nobody messes with Lois and Clark, right?"
"They better not!"

:DSQUEEEEE!!!!:D

Kel-El09
11-06-2008, 08:14 PM
Oh my gosh!! The Clois scenes were amazing!!! We already knew that Lois loves Clark from Committed, but now we see just how much Clark cares about her. He doesn't disagree with what Kara said, and Faora even told him that he has feelings for the body that she inhabits!!
SQUEE***Faceplants into beanbag***

skylar
11-06-2008, 08:15 PM
Clois is happening every episode that we've had so
far and tonight we saw some love between Clark and Lois.

LuckyLois
11-06-2008, 08:16 PM
Clark has feelings for Lois which we already knew! What a tease about them living together!!

DontCha
11-06-2008, 08:17 PM
looovee

I knew it

looooveveee


you have feelings for this creature? like father like son Jor El fell in love with a human when he came to earth, Clark loves Lois

confirmation after confirmation

all that arguing last week about clark being jealous, clark having feelings, we were right :)

he's kniown it since the end of committed

wildcherry
11-06-2008, 08:18 PM
i know, i cant believe they aren't living together. got my hopes up for nothing:rolleyes: i

eas
11-06-2008, 08:20 PM
Clois was amazing. SO much better than "Identity".

So much goodness, I don't even know where to start!

- She's moving in! No, wait... she's not!! Clark's not happy that she's not moving in!!! Woo-hoo!!

- She LOVES him... Lois Lane doesn't leave people behind... she's in a scary alien place and REFUSES to leave without Clark. Yet ANOTHER reason to love Lois Lane.

- "No one messes with Lois and Clark." 'nuff said.

- The convo between the two cousins... he TRUSTS her... and Kara knows!!

- Even Faora could tell that he feels something for her.

Kel-El09
11-06-2008, 08:20 PM
i know, i cant believe they aren't living together. got my hopes up for nothing:rolleyes: i voted a 9 just because of that haha.

I know, that made me sad!! Welcome to Ksite WildCherry...so did you get that reference from the episode Maxima lol?! A little less sweet vanilla...and little more WILD CHERRY!!!

abbaspice1
11-06-2008, 08:20 PM
looovee

I knew it

looooveveee


you have feelings for this creature? like father like son Jor El fell in love with a human when he came to earth, Clark loves Lois

confirmation after confirmation

all that arguing last week about clark being jealous, clark having feelings, we were right :)

he's kniown it since the end of committed

And now we can bask in the glory of our greatness! :rotfl:

LoveHurts38
11-06-2008, 08:21 PM
Great scenes..and Lois was still on top of Clark and he doesn't even move her ****dies and goes to heaven***

Carolina87
11-06-2008, 08:21 PM
the living together tease was so cruel to do to us Claddicts!! :( but they made it up to us by giving us great Clois scenes :D

Alexander III
11-06-2008, 08:22 PM
So all these time Lois did'nt wanna go too deep w/ Clark thus didn't wanna move in w/ him but now this episode she WANTED TO???? OK THERE! Well at the end she chickened out.

DontCha
11-06-2008, 08:22 PM
oh they will move in together..just watch

Kel-El09
11-06-2008, 08:22 PM
can someone get the clip where lois is leaving through the portal on youtube soon...my tv was messing up and I really want to see her not want to leave Clark!! THanks!

ginnyfan
11-06-2008, 08:23 PM
I love the Clois scenes but I wanted MORE!

individuall
11-06-2008, 08:25 PM
She fell on top of him *punches the air* YES!
And Clark was just like...I'm good...LOL.

Wicked Lois
11-06-2008, 08:26 PM
I wish I could see Clois clips as well

amberdawn
11-06-2008, 08:27 PM
oh they will move in together..just watch

I hope you are right

harryandginnyfanatic
11-06-2008, 08:27 PM
So she forgot everything?

Jade4813
11-06-2008, 08:28 PM
So all these time Lois did'nt wanna go too deep w/ Clark thus didn't wanna move in w/ him but now this episode she WANTED TO???? OK THERE! Well at the end she chickened out.

I think the Chimmy sex changed her mind. :\ I've been a roomie with thin walls like that. I'd want to move too.

Carolina87
11-06-2008, 08:28 PM
I love the Clois scenes but I wanted MORE!

IKR :\ I feel so greedy but if it was up to me the entire ep would be about Clois >.>

100 Post in a CLOIS forum YEAHHH!!!!

pizzahead2490
11-06-2008, 08:29 PM
it was so nice when lois did not want to leave clark at the PZ. but it was cruel when they tease us about them moving in tho.

LightSeeker
11-06-2008, 08:30 PM
The chemistry between them tonight was incredible.:D Lois being scared and Clark trying to protect her in the phantom zone. "No one messes with Lois and Clark" I loved it.:D

Aaahhhhhhhhh!! She fell on top of him!:eek: Nice!:D;)

amberdawn
11-06-2008, 08:30 PM
I know I hate the teasing, it makes me mad

DontCha
11-06-2008, 08:30 PM
I also knew lois was gonna fall on top of him when kara took the evil outta her

myankskent
11-06-2008, 08:31 PM
I think that this episode demonstrates what Lois is all about. When the chips are down and her life is on the line, she has a tremendous respect and appreciation for Clark. She just hides it a lot with the constant teasing. I'm really glad that TPTB are finally exploring this with Lois's character.

Aran
11-06-2008, 08:31 PM
:eek: wow! NOBODY IS GONNA MESS WITH LOIS AND CLARK !!!


WHAT A DIRECT WAY TO TELL US :DPS3!! I HOPE SO;)

:D:D:D:D:D

amberdawn
11-06-2008, 08:32 PM
I love Kara saying Lois can handle his secret. Forshadowing maybe? I would die.

eas
11-06-2008, 08:33 PM
So she forgot everything?

No, she remembered the PZ. But Clark convinced her that it was a hallucination or a dream.

Basically, it was a little like Dorothy in "Wizard of Oz"... she wakes up and sees everyone and says, "I had the strangest dream... and you were there and you were there...".

So, Clark basically made her think that she had some weird dream and she cast him as her knight in shining armor... which he got a kick out of and she was embarrassed by.

That also is what leads her to re-thinking moving in with him... because she sees herself as even dreaming about him and it's just not a good idea.

I thought it was well done that they explained that the only reason she was moving in with him was because of rent money... now that Tess gave her a raise, she could afford to live on her own & again avoided living with Clark.

hyped4lnc
11-06-2008, 08:33 PM
I loved it when she didn't want to follow Kara. She pratically tried to glue herself to Clark.

I got so giddy when I saw that she was moving in. I smiled for about five minutes. Ugh, now she isn't moving in. I wonder if she is going to stay at the Talon until she finds her a place.

Blugolds22
11-06-2008, 08:33 PM
That must be one hell of a raise Lois is getting that she can suddenly afford her own place. I was really disappointed to hear she won't be moving in. I was kind of surprised not to have her make some sort of remark after Clark said, "That's the best part of you living on the farm. I can keep an eye on you."

eas
11-06-2008, 08:34 PM
:eek: wow! NOBODY IS GONNA MESS WITH LOIS AND CLARK !!!


WHAT A DIRECT WAY TO TELL US :DPS3!! I HOPE SO;)

:D:D:D:D:D


Yeah, I LOVED that.

hyped4lnc
11-06-2008, 08:35 PM
I love Kara saying Lois can handle his secret. Forshadowing maybe? I would die.
No, I don't want her to know. The best thing about Superman to me is seeing Lois running around trying to find out who he is. She is suppose to be this top-notch reporter, but she can't tell that Clark is Superman. It is hilarious.

dalbajr
11-06-2008, 08:36 PM
Can't wait to get home and watch it!! Thank god for TIVO!!
But from what I have read I am sticking to my guns that there will be a CLOIS Kiss in Bride!!

Kel-El09
11-06-2008, 08:36 PM
I wish I could see Clois clips as well
Me too!! LOVE your avi!!

ClarkyBoy14
11-06-2008, 08:36 PM
Awesome! :D

I was so excited when I thought Lois was moving in. I guess it's for the best that she doesn't though.

"No one messes with Lois and Clark" was great.

amberdawn
11-06-2008, 08:36 PM
No, I don't want her to know. The best thing about Superman to me is seeing Lois running around trying to find out who he is. She is suppose to be this top-notch reporter, but she can't tell that Clark is Superman. It is hilarious.

Yeah, but this show is different and they are doing things differently. There's no way she'd not know Superman is Clark.

eas
11-06-2008, 08:37 PM
I think that this episode demonstrates what Lois is all about. When the chips are down and her life is on the line, she has a tremendous respect and appreciation for Clark. She just hides it a lot with the constant teasing. I'm really glad that TPTB are finally exploring this with Lois's character.

Yeah, it was pretty obvious that she trusts him and that she had no problem ceding to him at such a moment -- and her loyalty (which has been VERY consistent in this series) came out again & it really showed us how far she's willing to go for her loved ones.

I also loved how they referenced that she stumbled on a space-ship (nice reference to the last time she met Kara).

This episode was a great Lois episode... even if she was Faora for a good portion of it! LOL

hyped4lnc
11-06-2008, 08:38 PM
That must be one hell of a raise Lois is getting that she can suddenly afford her own place. I was really disappointed to hear she won't be moving in. I was kind of surprised not to have her make some sort of remark after Clark said, "That's the best part of you living on the farm. I can keep an eye on you."
I love that line!!

Yeah, but this show is different and they are doing things differently. There's no way she'd not know Superman is Clark.
Well in some versions, Superman wears a mask.

amberdawn
11-06-2008, 08:39 PM
Yeah but I can't see him wearing a mask.

TWLOVER03
11-06-2008, 08:40 PM
Awesome! :D

I was so excited when I thought Lois was moving in. I guess it's for the best that she doesn't though.

"No one messes with Lois and Clark" was great.

The best part of the episode IMO!

DontCha
11-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Apparently kara said how many innocent lives is this woman worth? Im guessing alot since clark didnt care and just wanted to send her back?

eas
11-06-2008, 08:42 PM
OK, here's a question for you guys...

Why do you think that Clark said, "All I've ever wanted is to keep Lois away from my secret and now she got close to it and she got hurt." (or something like that)

That line and the line he makes to Lois about "I'm sorry, it's all my fault"... dare I say it... reminded me of Clana.

*ducks as Clois fans throw knives*

No, seriously... I'm as big of a Clois fan as there could be... but - honestly - didn't that strike you as a bit out of the blue???? I mean... since when does Clark talk about Lois like that?

amberdawn
11-06-2008, 08:43 PM
Apparently kara said how many innocent lives is this woman worth? Im guessing alot since clark didnt care and just wanted to send her back?

Yep he just wanted her back on Earth

TWLOVER03
11-06-2008, 08:44 PM
OK, here's a question for you guys...

Why do you think that Clark said, "All I've ever wanted is to keep Lois away from my secret and now she got close to it and she got hurt." (or something like that)

That line and the line he makes to Lois about "I'm sorry, it's all my fault"... dare I say it... reminded me of Clana.

*ducks as Clois fans throw knives*

No, seriously... I'm as big of a Clois fan as there could be... but - honestly - didn't that strike you as a bit out of the blue???? I mean... since when does Clark talk about Lois like that?


I also found that out of place...

Blugolds22
11-06-2008, 08:45 PM
I got the feeling that when Kara asked Clark how many innocent lives Lois was worth to him, that wanted to say something but held back. You got to see some glimpses of how much Lois and Clark really care for each other.

Wicked Lois
11-06-2008, 08:46 PM
Me too!! LOVE your avi!!


Thanks!!! HEHEHE

individuall
11-06-2008, 08:48 PM
OK, here's a question for you guys...

Why do you think that Clark said, "All I've ever wanted is to keep Lois away from my secret and now she got close to it and she got hurt." (or something like that)

That line and the line he makes to Lois about "I'm sorry, it's all my fault"... dare I say it... reminded me of Clana.

*ducks as Clois fans throw knives*

No, seriously... I'm as big of a Clois fan as there could be... but - honestly - didn't that strike you as a bit out of the blue???? I mean... since when does Clark talk about Lois like that?

Yeah, that was a little weird..But Caroline Dries wrote this eppy...It was good....And I liked it a lot...But I was expecting something a little OOC to happen...That wasn't really too big of a deal...But it was out of place and like you said very Clana-esque...
I hope it was just a fluke...:\

DontCha
11-06-2008, 08:49 PM
it was obviously so kara could set up the anvil that she could handle the secret well.??

amberdawn
11-06-2008, 08:49 PM
I think, he just meant he'd never want to put her in danger by knowing his secret, but Kara made him realize she could handle it, because she is strong. A lot stronger than Lana ever was.

Wicked Lois
11-06-2008, 08:53 PM
I think, he just meant he'd never want to put her in danger by knowing his secret, but Kara made him realize she could handle it, because she is strong. A lot stronger than Lana ever was.

You are so right!!!!!

Lana is weak... argh.

LuckyLois
11-06-2008, 08:59 PM
OK, here's a question for you guys...

Why do you think that Clark said, "All I've ever wanted is to keep Lois away from my secret and now she got close to it and she got hurt." (or something like that)

That line and the line he makes to Lois about "I'm sorry, it's all my fault"... dare I say it... reminded me of Clana.

*ducks as Clois fans throw knives*

No, seriously... I'm as big of a Clois fan as there could be... but - honestly - didn't that strike you as a bit out of the blue???? I mean... since when does Clark talk about Lois like that?

Well I think what they meant by that is he tried to hide his powers when they lived together and now they are working together at the DP and he is always trying to get away to rescue someone without Lois finding out.

I loved that he liked that she thought of him as her Knight in Shining Armor.Me too!:p

Routh
11-06-2008, 09:02 PM
I wish we'd gotten something more substantial, but what we did get was nice. :)

Jade4813
11-06-2008, 09:02 PM
I loved that Knight in Shining Armor convo.

Lois: "What other reality would have you acting as my knight in shining armor?"
Clark: "I was your knight in shining armor?"

individuall
11-06-2008, 09:04 PM
^Clark sounded so cute when he said "I was your knight in shining armor?" He was all proud :D

Clois is the best!

chole_fan
11-06-2008, 09:06 PM
I've gotta say from S1 I was a diehard Chlark fan, but I am really warming up to Clois. I mean it's obvious Chlark is never going to happena and they way they are writing Clois this season it's hard not to root for them. I loved the "No one messes with Lois and Clark" line...that was great!

lane06
11-06-2008, 09:16 PM
i'm dying of envy here guys... i wont be able to see the episode until later!!! reading your reactions is driving me insane!!!:eek:

Jade4813
11-06-2008, 09:17 PM
Welcome, chloe_fan, to Cloisy goodness! We have an entire line of baked goods for you to enjoy! :D

eas
11-06-2008, 09:18 PM
it was obviously so kara could set up the anvil that she could handle the secret well.??

Yes, I agree with that.

I had no problem with what Kara said. She's right - Lois IS strong enough to the handle the secret.

But Clark has never been conflicted about Lois knowing his secret before... mainly because Lois doesn't MAKE him conflicted.

As I said somewhere else -- the writer seemed to impose a Clana-esque feel to the convo for no reason. More secrets and lies angst... this time with Lois. And no reason for him to be that way, really.

However, someone also pointed out to me that she saw it more like Clark regretting his decision not to tell Lois the secret, because it would hurt her more than knowing it would.

----- Added 36 Seconds later -----

I've gotta say from S1 I was a diehard Chlark fan, but I am really warming up to Clois. I mean it's obvious Chlark is never going to happena and they way they are writing Clois this season it's hard not to root for them. I loved the "No one messes with Lois and Clark" line...that was great!

Wow... awesome!! :D

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----

I loved that Knight in Shining Armor convo.

Lois: "What other reality would have you acting as my knight in shining armor?"
Clark: "I was your knight in shining armor?"

Yeah, that was VERY cute. The way he says it... his eyes kind of light up. It reminded me of when she called him charming in "Plastique" and he says, "You think I'm charming?"

I love that she has these slips of tongue and he ALWAYS calls her on it... and then she back-tracks. LOL

individuall
11-06-2008, 09:22 PM
"All I ever wanted was to keep Lois away from my secret, yesterday that nearly got her killed"

So it sounds to me like Clark was saying that NOT telling Lois his secret put her in danger...Interesting...Then Kara drops her "Lois could handle it. She's tough" line...Maybe Clark will willingly tell Lois his secret this season...Or am I just being weird...Any thoughts...

zorasuperman
11-06-2008, 09:23 PM
the whole calling clark her "knight in shining armor" and clark teasing her about it reminded me very much in plastique, where she says clark "has a charming smile." clark: you think i have a charming smile?

individuall
11-06-2008, 09:24 PM
I've gotta say from S1 I was a diehard Chlark fan, but I am really warming up to Clois. I mean it's obvious Chlark is never going to happena and they way they are writing Clois this season it's hard not to root for them. I loved the "No one messes with Lois and Clark" line...that was great!

:D

eas
11-06-2008, 09:27 PM
"All I ever wanted was to keep Lois away from my secret, yesterday that nearly got her killed"

So it sounds to me like Clark was saying that NOT telling Lois his secret put her in danger...Interesting...Then Kara drops her "Lois could handle it. She's tough" line...Maybe Clark will willingly tell Lois his secret this season...Or am I just being weird...Any thoughts...

Actually, I've been one of the ones who have been very skeptical about Clark telling Lois his secret. But it does seem that they're setting it up so that Lois will find out.... I hope that Clark tells her. I do want Lois to be the first person that Clark tells on his own.

BadToad
11-06-2008, 09:27 PM
I thought the early Clark/Lois stuff worked in this episode. Clois in the Phantom Zone, and Clark being determined to get her out, and Lois not wanting to leave him. That was all good stuff. But I didn't care at all for the last Clois scene. Again, the dialogue left me cold, and sort of crossed that line between banter and belittling. I was hoping for a softer scene at the end between them, especially since this episode kept telling me Clark had feelings for Lois. I'd personally like a bit more showing, and a lot less telling. I also thought Lois should've been suspicious of Tess giving her a raise. She came off as a bit clueless there.

So, for me, I voted just OK. I think they started off really strong, but didn't finish it that way. JMHO, from the non'shippers bench :)

LuckyLois
11-06-2008, 09:28 PM
So now that's Honorable, Adorable, Charming, and a Knight in Shining Armor! I think Lois is hooked!

DontCha
11-06-2008, 09:38 PM
someone's just mentioned on DI that what he actually says is:

"All I wanted was to keep Lois away from my secret, yesterday that nearly got her killed"

doesnt that imply that lois not knowing the secret is what nearly got her killed?

EDIT - someone already posted it lol

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individuall
11-06-2008, 09:41 PM
I thought the early Clark/Lois stuff worked in this episode. Clois in the Phantom Zone, and Clark being determined to get her out, and Lois not wanting to leave him. That was all good stuff. But I didn't care at all for the last Clois scene. Again, the dialogue left me cold, and sort of crossed that line between banter and belittling. I was hoping for a softer scene at the end between them, especially since this episode kept telling me Clark had feelings for Lois. I'd personally like a bit more showing, and a lot less telling. I also thought Lois should've been suspicious of Tess giving her a raise. She came off as a bit clueless there.

So, for me, I voted just OK. I think they started off really strong, but didn't finish it that way. JMHO, from the non'shippers bench :)

Blasphomey!! LOL just kidding!
It's nice to hear an unbiased opinion..I always look forward to your posts in these threads :) ..You know what's funny..I watched the last Clois scene and actually thought to myself..BadToad isn't going to be pleased LOL...
I took it as Lois being defensive and probably majorly freaked out by her little "hallucination"... She was being very 'I have my guard up" Lois..Though I loved that she let the "you were my knight in shining armor" thing slip :D
And yeah I guess she should have been a little more skeptical about the raise..At first when she brought it up to Clark I thought she sounded surprised by it...Then when he said something she went into her 'over confident of-course-I-got-a-raise' type attitude...But I do think she was a little be iffy on it...But hey then again more money is always good LOL.
Anyway...Love to hear your opinions :)

----- Added 34 Seconds later -----

someone's just mentioned on DI that what he actually says is:

"All I wanted was to keep Lois away from my secret, yesterday that nearly got her killed"

doesnt that imply that lois not knowing the secret is what nearly got her killed?

EDIT - someone already posted it lol

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YES! Finally beat you to something LOL ;)

pizzahead2490
11-06-2008, 09:43 PM
I love that line!!


Well in some versions, Superman wears a mask.

in what version is that? can i see pics? please:D

eas
11-06-2008, 09:57 PM
I thought the early Clark/Lois stuff worked in this episode. Clois in the Phantom Zone, and Clark being determined to get her out, and Lois not wanting to leave him. That was all good stuff. But I didn't care at all for the last Clois scene. Again, the dialogue left me cold, and sort of crossed that line between banter and belittling. I was hoping for a softer scene at the end between them, especially since this episode kept telling me Clark had feelings for Lois. I'd personally like a bit more showing, and a lot less telling. I also thought Lois should've been suspicious of Tess giving her a raise. She came off as a bit clueless there.

So, for me, I voted just OK. I think they started off really strong, but didn't finish it that way. JMHO, from the non'shippers bench :)


Your opinion is more than welcome.

I would say, though, that I didn't get the same feeling from the ending scene. I think was very stunned and surprised when Tess gave her the raise, but she didn't really get into her suspicions with Clark. She kind of shrugged it off... personally, I like to think that Lois is still researching Lex & Tess is part of that, and so she's not exactly sharing everything with Clark about how she views their boss.

Also, I saw her 'knight in shining armor' to be very much a response to her own embarrasement. We didn't see the scene, but it was obvious that she came to and Clark told her some BS story about how she touched the crystal, fell down, hit her head, and then started some massive hallucination. I think this was a scene we should have seen... the writer definitely copped out by not including it... there should have been some sort of explanation from both Kara & Clark... they could have ganged up to get Lois to believe it.

But, anyway, I think we are to assume that he must have laid it on thick, because she believed it... and, then, she was left with this embarrassing situation where she'd just revealed to Clark that she dreamed about being in a life/death situation with him and he was her knight. And - Clark being the proactive, teasing guy he is around Lois - wouldn't let it go... he pushed her on it. (Just like he caught her slip about his charming smile.) So, she reacted defensively.

I am glad to hear that you get the sense that Clark has feelings for Lois. I definitely got that confirmation from him this episode, as well.

LovelyLoisLane
11-06-2008, 10:20 PM
I think that this episode demonstrates what Lois is all about. When the chips are down and her life is on the line, she has a tremendous respect and appreciation for Clark. She just hides it a lot with the constant teasing. I'm really glad that TPTB are finally exploring this with Lois's character.

She didn't scream her head off when she saw that rotten corpse/skeleton, and though she understandably was freaked, she handled the PZ thing as well as can be expected. Even thinking she was dead meat there, she let Clark calm her down and then even wanted to go help him before escaping when she heard him in distress, adding in that she didn't know what she'd be facing if she did go help him.

Clark is her partner and she wasn't going to leave him behind. Loved that.


Lois = Not A Damsel In A Distress.

krpto
11-06-2008, 10:27 PM
She didn't scream her head off when she saw that rotten corpse/skeleton, and though she understandably was freaked, she handled the PZ thing as well as can be expected. Even thinking she was dead meat there, she let Clark calm her down and then even wanted to go help him before escaping when she heard him in distress, adding in that she didn't know what she'd be facing if she did go help him.

Clark is her partner and she wasn't going to leave him behind. Loved that.


Lois = Not A Damsel In A Distress.

Exactly And I love ur avi though I cannot quite make out what the tatoo says.

hyped4lnc
11-06-2008, 10:28 PM
Does Lois even know Clark has a secret?

I have watched up to the middle of the sixth season and all of the eighth, and I don't see any indication that she knows Clark has a secret.

----- Added 2 Minutes later -----

"All I ever wanted was to keep Lois away from my secret, yesterday that nearly got her killed"

So it sounds to me like Clark was saying that NOT telling Lois his secret put her in danger...Interesting...Then Kara drops her "Lois could handle it. She's tough" line...Maybe Clark will willingly tell Lois his secret this season...Or am I just being weird...Any thoughts...
I don't see why telling her would hurt. Lois is his only friend that does not know. She seems oblivious to that fact.

individuall
11-06-2008, 10:34 PM
I think Lois knows he has a secret but she doesn't bug him about it..I think her method is 'If he wants to tell me he will" it's one of the things I love about her :D

curiosity
11-06-2008, 10:39 PM
OK, here's a question for you guys...

Why do you think that Clark said, "All I've ever wanted is to keep Lois away from my secret and now she got close to it and she got hurt." (or something like that)

That line and the line he makes to Lois about "I'm sorry, it's all my fault"... dare I say it... reminded me of Clana.

*ducks as Clois fans throw knives*

No, seriously... I'm as big of a Clois fan as there could be... but - honestly - didn't that strike you as a bit out of the blue???? I mean... since when does Clark talk about Lois like that?


The difference is...Lois doesn't come back mad and freaking out with loads of drama because Clark did something wrong, or that he's keeping something from her. Even the part about Lois getting hurt, Kara tells him Lois is strong and can handle it. If he had these worries with Lana, it makes sense he has them with Lois, but with Lois they're gone quicker. IMO.:)

hyped4lnc
11-06-2008, 10:40 PM
in what version is that? can i see pics? please:D
Here's an old thread about it.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106552

individuall
11-06-2008, 10:43 PM
OK...So I have a quick question in the screen caps Lois/Clark were holding hands...But I don't that scene was ever in the eppy :(...OR did I completely miss it?

hyped4lnc
11-06-2008, 10:45 PM
Your opinion is more than welcome.

I would say, though, that I didn't get the same feeling from the ending scene. I think was very stunned and surprised when Tess gave her the raise, but she didn't really get into her suspicions with Clark. She kind of shrugged it off... personally, I like to think that Lois is still researching Lex & Tess is part of that, and so she's not exactly sharing everything with Clark about how she views their boss.

Also, I saw her 'knight in shining armor' to be very much a response to her own embarrasement. We didn't see the scene, but it was obvious that she came to and Clark told her some BS story about how she touched the crystal, fell down, hit her head, and then started some massive hallucination. I think this was a scene we should have seen... the writer definitely copped out by not including it... there should have been some sort of explanation from both Kara & Clark... they could have ganged up to get Lois to believe it.

But, anyway, I think we are to assume that he must have laid it on thick, because she believed it... and, then, she was left with this embarrassing situation where she'd just revealed to Clark that she dreamed about being in a life/death situation with him and he was her knight. And - Clark being the proactive, teasing guy he is around Lois - wouldn't let it go... he pushed her on it. (Just like he caught her slip about his charming smile.) So, she reacted defensively.

I am glad to hear that you get the sense that Clark has feelings for Lois. I definitely got that confirmation from him this episode, as well.I really don't know if Lois truly believe that she had a hallucination. I think she is horrified by it possibility that could be real so she believes anything that disproves it. Plus she trusts Clark so she automatically believe in his version.

pizzahead2490
11-06-2008, 10:57 PM
Here's an old thread about it.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106552

thank you. omg... i dont know what to think

txluvstom
11-06-2008, 11:12 PM
OK...So I have a quick question in the screen caps Lois/Clark were holding hands...But I don't that scene was ever in the eppy :(...OR did I completely miss it?
It was a very quick scene where just after a far away shot and you here Clark say,"Just keep moving,Lois. You're doing great." Then there's a close up and you see Clark letting go of her hand. But actually there was a lot of "touchy" between them in this episode. Especially from Clark. He touches her hand,shoulder,face,forehead,and arm. She of course sits on him then falls over him. Ha..ha.:rotfl:

galatians221
11-06-2008, 11:15 PM
I'm just tuning in (kind of slow) to the fact that Clark is physically attracted to Lois but is still a bit repulsed by her attitude and arrogance. They have moved on from disgust with each other but she still calls him "Smallville" and still makes light of his being a farmboy and has a very irritating personality. Contrast that with Clark and Lana making goo goo eyes at each other and then Lois comes along and talks too much, too loud and still puts him down. I think that's where Clark is in this situation. He wasn't happy that she wanted to move in and reminded her of past problems living there. I think that Clark is falling in love with her but still doesn't like her.

individuall
11-06-2008, 11:15 PM
It was a very quick scene where just after a far away shot and you here Clark say,"Just keep moving,Lois. You're doing great." Then there's a close up and you see Clark letting go of her hand. But actually there was a lot of "touchy" between them in this episode. Especially from Clark. He touches her hand,shoulder,face,forehead,and arm. She of course sits on him then falls over him. Ha..ha.:rotfl:


I know and he just lays there with her on top of him :)
I ate the Clois scenes up tonight! :D

WickedJenn
11-06-2008, 11:17 PM
I'm just tuning in (kind of slow) to the fact that Clark is physically attracted to Lois but is still a bit repulsed by her attitude and arrogance. They have moved on from disgust with each other but she still calls him "Smallville" and still makes light of his being a farmboy and has a very irritating personality. Contrast that with Clark and Lana making goo goo eyes at each other and then Lois comes along and talks too much, too loud and still puts him down. I think that's where Clark is in this situation. He wasn't happy that she wanted to move in and reminded her of past problems living there. I think that Clark is falling in love with her but still doesn't like her.

Lois in the comics treats Clark the exact same way. IMO this Lois is no different, it's what makes her stand out.

http://redboots.net/planet/?p=13

Clark gives as good as he gets, like last week when he said to her about her date "Who's the unlucky guy?"

SteveS
11-06-2008, 11:22 PM
I'm just tuning in (kind of slow) to the fact that Clark is physically attracted to Lois but is still a bit repulsed by her attitude and arrogance. They have moved on from disgust with each other but she still calls him "Smallville" and still makes light of his being a farmboy and has a very irritating personality. Contrast that with Clark and Lana making goo goo eyes at each other and then Lois comes along and talks too much, too loud and still puts him down. I think that's where Clark is in this situation. He wasn't happy that she wanted to move in and reminded her of past problems living there. I think that Clark is falling in love with her but still doesn't like her.

lois as she has been presented on Smallville is a jerkette and apparently without any friends, that is poor characterization no matter what the source of dis-inspiration. And though I would agree that ClarkMan does not want to see any harm come to lois, I do agree that her persona is generally a turn-off to him on the more personal levels. She has a long way to go and change, or TPTB can dumb-down ClarkMan, before he sees her in as appealling in anything more than the most base physical attraction.

Did you note lois' 'abuction' conclusion? She stated it as truth just like she did her visit to the fortress when she thought that she was in 'heaven.' Not too sharp, but something that Kara could laugh at between themselves.

galatians221
11-06-2008, 11:22 PM
Lois in the comics treats Clark the exact same way. IMO this Lois is no different, it's what makes her stand out.

http://redboots.net/planet/?p=13

Clark gives as good as he gets, like last week when he said to her about her date "Who's the unlucky guy?"

It just seems that Clark sincerely did not want Lois to move in. I know he was the one to suggest it but he was trying to be helpful. He is lonely there by himself but I don't know if he wants the incessant chatter of LL. He's unsure of it all is all that I'm trying to get to. I guess from what you're saying Superman lives with a nagging wife. I hate the thought of that. I can see Lois telling him to pick up his socks and clean the bathroom

WickedJenn
11-06-2008, 11:22 PM
It just seems that Clark sincerely did not want Lois to move in. I know he was the one to suggest it but he was trying to be helpful. He is lonely there by himself but I don't know if he wants the incessant chatter of LL. He's unsure of it all is all that I'm trying to get to. I guess from what you're saying Superman lives with a nagging wife. I hate the thought of that. I can see Lois telling him to pick up his socks and clean the bathroom

Well, he was the one who asked her last time, in "Instinct".

I think it was due to his worry about his secret stemming from "Identity", as to why he was wary at first.

Lois, as I said, is like that with Clark and has been since, well, she was created.

SupesComicFan
11-06-2008, 11:30 PM
I think it is more like this.

Clark doesn't want Lois to live there anymore for the same reason she told him NO the last time he asked. He likes her, and he doesn't want to. I thought the parallel was clear and well-done.

Clark is obviously physically attracted to Lois. However, they started off in a position of rivalry right off of the bat. I am not bothered that Lois is slightly irritating. Lois has always been slightly irritating. However, I don't think she is making fun of him anymore, and hasn't been for a while. Just last episode she said he was "no hack." In front of him, however, she has her guard up, and uses insults to disguise her feelings. Classic Lois. However, when the situation really calls for it, she thinks she is going to die, etc, she lets the guard down. Classic Lois.

As for Clark, I think HE is just realizing he has feelings for her, so this comfortable place he thought he had with her (annoying co-worker, sort of friend) is being challenged. Classic Clark. He, when confronted, goes into Uber-protective mode (which we saw tonight), or uses insults (ones that neither of them mind, or they would DO something about it and/or avoid each other) to get back to the comfortable place. Classic Clark, doesn't want to "ruin" the friendship.

I don't think that after tonight one can say Clark doesn't like Lois as more than a friend. He is also becoming comfortable with this, and didn't, you will notice, call Kara on what she said in the loft, nor did he look even mildly surprised when Faora called him on it. It is now a given for him. He will be the first to admit this (not under penalty of pain or death like Lois - Classic Lois), mark my words. This all seems very organic to me.

And, the difference between goo-goo eyes love and what will be shown between Lois and Clark (or is in the comics, anyway) is that goo-goo love isn't real, it is teenaged love, it is loving the idea of someone rather than an actual person. I think the whole of Clana was teenaged love at first, and then the love of an idea rather than a person, and I think the show, for all of its faults, showed exactly that. The Clois is being shown as friends (admittedly, in season 4) who become attracted to each other (season 6) and now that is growing into something more (season 8). The Lana was just, for both of them, teenaged love, and was never portrayed as real. Obsessive love isn't real, it isn't cute, and it isn't even love (by the way, this is my main problem with Chlark - I can't stand Chloe's obsessiveness and to say it is love demeans Chloe's character). Hopefully, with Lana's return, this goo-goo eyes thing will be put to rest for good.

WickedJenn
11-06-2008, 11:32 PM
Well said, SCF, you put it much better than I ;)

galatians221
11-06-2008, 11:33 PM
I think it is more like this.

Clark doesn't want Lois to live there anymore for the same reason she told him NO the last time he asked. He likes her, and he doesn't want to. I thought the parallel was clear and well-done.

Clark is obviously physically attracted to Lois. However, they started off in a position of rivalry right off of the bat. I am not bothered that Lois is slightly irritating. Lois has always been slightly irritating. However, I don't think she is making fun of him anymore, and hasn't been for a while. Just last episode she said he was "no hack." In front of him, however, she has her guard up, and uses insults to disguise her feelings. Classic Lois. However, when the situation really calls for it, she thinks she is going to die, etc, she lets the guard down. Classic Lois.

As for Clark, I think HE is just realizing he has feelings for her, so this comfortable place he thought he had with her (annoying co-worker, sort of friend) is being challenged. Classic Clark. He, when confronted, goes into Uber-protective mode (which we saw tonight), or uses insults (ones that neither of them mind, or they would DO something about it and/or avoid each other) to get back to the comfortable place. Classic Clark, doesn't want to "ruin" the friendship.

I don't think that after tonight one can say Clark doesn't like Lois as more than a friend. He is also becoming comfortable with this, and didn't, you will notice, call Kara on what she said in the loft, nor did he look even mildly surprised when Faora called him on it. It is now a given for him. He will be the first to admit this (not under penalty of pain or death like Lois - Classic Lois), mark my words. This all seems very organic to me.

And, the difference between goo-goo eyes love and what will be shown between Lois and Clark (or is in the comics, anyway) is that goo-goo love isn't real, it is teenaged love, it is loving the idea of someone rather than an actual person. I think the whole of Clana was teenaged love at first, and then the love of an idea rather than a person, and I think the show, for all of its faults, showed exactly that. The Clois is being shown as friends (admittedly, in season 4) who become attracted to each other (season 6) and now that is growing into something more (season 8). The Lana was just, for both of them, teenaged love, and was never portrayed as real. Obsessive love isn't real, it isn't cute, and it isn't even love. Hopefully, with Lana's return, this will be put to rest for good.

I think you're right. I made goo goo eyes at my wife last night and she slapped me. I'll try irritating her. If only I had heat vision.

WickedJenn
11-06-2008, 11:34 PM
I think you're right. I made goo goo eyes at my wife last night and she slapped me. I'll try irritating her. If only I had heat vision.

:rotfl:

svtwamedfan05
11-06-2008, 11:36 PM
Loved all their scenes in tonight's episode. They made the episode for me.

SupesComicFan
11-06-2008, 11:40 PM
:rotfl:

No, seriously, everyone has loving looks with their spouse, but if your wife acted like Clark did with Lana, she would be irritating as well. Didn't you have a "love" in high school whom you were slightly obsessed with, but when (if) you got to date them, they just didn't live up to your expectations of them? I had a dude write me a note, in his own blood, in study hall, and then hand it to me. I am sure he thought he loved me, but me, I contacted the counselor. This is just Lana I am talking about here, not Lois.

Personally, I don't think Clark is that irritated, or he would avoid Lois. Instead, he seems to be drawn to her. You may find her annoying, but after Lana, Lois would probably be a breath of fresh air to Clark, really.:lol:

SteveS
11-06-2008, 11:41 PM
Neither 'goo-goo' eyes, perpetual insults, or comic book cartoons are 'real' in terms of a believable relationship, with number two certainly leading to alienation and separation or divorce, if in a real relationship. Smallville, if it wanted to up the ante, would drop immature representations of the various rationales for attraction and write something that an adult could see, look and feel to be real. Sadly, I have my doubts as to 'their' skill level to do so.

double L
11-06-2008, 11:44 PM
lois as she has been presented on Smallville is a jerkette and apparently without any friends

MOD EDIT

SteveS
11-06-2008, 11:53 PM
"feelings" are in the eye and ear of the beholder. It was lois who professed her 'luv' for ClarkMan not the other way around and he was stunned and surprised. He is protective of her since she stupidly gets her butt kicked every week and he has to save her life in most episodes in which the lois character appears. He also would be 100% hetero-normal if he found her bared back of some interest. Is he interested or able to have an intelligent or mature conversation with her longer than 3 minutes? Impossible for her to do.

ClarkMan has feelings for Shelby, Chloe and his mother, all far stronger and of greater depth than he might feel towards this lois. (actually, the feelings for Shelby and lois are probably about equal, with Shelby having the definite edge in personality and likeability)

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Bre723
11-07-2008, 12:01 AM
Lana: You and Lois...?
Clark: Lois? She's bossy, she's stuck up, she's rude. I can't stand her!
Lana: The best ones always start out that way

yup, it all comes back to that, and just like SCF said "Clark doesn't want Lois to live there anymore for the same reason she told him NO the last time he asked. He likes her, and he doesn't want to. I thought the parallel was clear and well-done."

i totally agree, and i can't wait for more clois!
and the weird thing is that i'm a chlark fan!haha.

Atomic girl
11-07-2008, 12:09 AM
MOD NOTE: All posts in this thread should be about the topic and not other posters!

galatians221
11-07-2008, 12:15 AM
Neither 'goo-goo' eyes, perpetual insults, or comic book cartoons are 'real' in terms of a believable relationship, with number two certainly leading to alienation and separation or divorce, if in a real relationship. Smallville, if it wanted to up the ante, would drop immature representations of the various rationales for attraction and write something that an adult could see, look and feel to be real. Sadly, I have my doubts as to 'their' skill level to do so.

I've been hoping that at some point Lois will chill out. I see that happening. She still calls him Smallville and takes shots at him being a farmboy but the veneer is coming down. If Durance is as good of an actress as I think she is she will get softer and sweeter. She was great tonight at doing harder and tougher. I've always wondered however, with as many times as she punches him in the chest, why she doesn't injure her hand. That is a bit of a plothole to me.

SupesComicFan
11-07-2008, 12:19 AM
THat bothered me to. When they were fighting Titan, she punched him in the stomach and her hand hurt, but she punches his arm CONSTANTLY, and nothing. Maybe she isn't hitting hard, and that is the difference?

Wicked Lois
11-07-2008, 12:20 AM
Lana: You and Lois...?
Clark: Lois? She's bossy, she's stuck up, she's rude. I can't stand her!
Lana: The best ones always start out that way

yup, it all comes back to that, and just like SCF said "Clark doesn't want Lois to live there anymore for the same reason she told him NO the last time he asked. He likes her, and he doesn't want to. I thought the parallel was clear and well-done."

i totally agree, and i can't wait for more clois!
and the weird thing is that i'm a chlark fan!haha.


LANA IS SO CLOIS!

*Thinking about openning a thread.

smallviluva
11-07-2008, 12:58 AM
I've been hoping that at some point Lois will chill out. I see that happening. She still calls him Smallville and takes shots at him being a farmboy but the veneer is coming down. If Durance is as good of an actress as I think she is she will get softer and sweeter. She was great tonight at doing harder and tougher. I've always wondered however, with as many times as she punches him in the chest, why she doesn't injure her hand. That is a bit of a plothole to me.

haha ive wondered about that too! but what really got me confused this epi, if someone can make it clear to me, when he opened the package where the crytal was, he knew lois was there, he acted like he never seen it before (like he usually does) but he GRABBED IT!! infront of lois! he didnt know what would happen, how come he would do that, instead of just closing it, or even putting it down after it started to glow! can someone please explain that to me?? I understand at the end of the epi where kara was like you trust her etc, but does that mean would of told her the secret that morning, but after the phantom zone he changed his mind? thanks for the help!! btw i LOVED AND LOVE CLOIS SCENES!!

LCforever
11-07-2008, 01:08 AM
^ Maybe he was wondering if it was some sort of joke. Since Lois said it was from his mom, he thought that Martha had sent him a crystal that looked like the kryptonian crystal. (Just grasping at straws..)

Anyway... did you all notice when Lois was saying "we are standing on our graves! no more farm! No more.."

I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO SAY "NO MORE US! I CAN'T TAKE LOSING YOU.. I LOVE YOU!" Man.. why did Clark have to cut her off??

My heart leapt when Lois said she was going to move in! ERGHH... but I did notice that Clark WAS DISAPPOINTED when she said she wasn't moving in...

man.. i wonder why she changed her mind!! :confused:

individuall
11-07-2008, 01:12 AM
^ Maybe he was wondering if it was some sort of joke. Since Lois said it was from his mom, he thought that Martha had sent him a crystal that looked like the kryptonian crystal. (Just grasping at straws..)

Anyway... did you all notice when Lois was saying "we are standing on our graves! no more farm! No more.."

I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO SAY "NO MORE US! I CAN'T TAKE LOSING YOU.. I LOVE YOU!" Man.. why did Clark have to cut her off??

My heart leapt when Lois said she was going to move in! ERGHH... but I did notice that Clark WAS DISAPPOINTED when she said she wasn't moving in...

man.. i wonder why she changed her mind!! :confused:

She said "No more farm! No more Daily Planet!" Clark cut her off in the middle of saying Daily planet :)

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I've been hoping that at some point Lois will chill out. I see that happening. She still calls him Smallville and takes shots at him being a farmboy but the veneer is coming down. If Durance is as good of an actress as I think she is she will get softer and sweeter. She was great tonight at doing harder and tougher. I've always wondered however, with as many times as she punches him in the chest, why she doesn't injure her hand. That is a bit of a plothole to me.

LOL. at the arm punches..Either Clark sees them coming and he kind of gives her a little lee way...If that makes any sense or she's really not punching him that hard so it shouldn't hurt either of them...In 'Combat' she really took a hit at him I'm guessing the playful punches just aren't enough to really hurt either of them..Or it's just a plot hole oh well..We've moved of to winking LOL.
Anyway I like my Lois hard and slightly irritating I don't want her to be meek...One of the things that attracts Clark to her is her attitude she surprises him, keeps him on his toes..Challenges him...Which both frustrates and fascinates him at the same time...She does get softer once they're in a relationship/married...But until I love her just the way she is...I mean she has toned it down since S4..But that's just becoming more mature and growing up...She's still my sassy Lois and I like her that way :D

morrigan01
11-07-2008, 02:14 AM
Lana: You and Lois...?
Clark: Lois? She's bossy, she's stuck up, she's rude. I can't stand her!
Lana: The best ones always start out that way


Some people really don't understand Lois and Clark's interaction because they aren't sappy and sweet, ala Clana. They are not that way now, and they won't be that way when they finally get together (as seen in the comics).

Their interaction, which has more or less been the same since 1938, is classic screwball comedy banter and interaction; the kind seen between David and Susan in Bringing Up Baby and Walter and Hildy in His Girl Friday, classic moves both made around the same time.

Bantering and making digs about each other to each other is their way of flirting.

They will never be sweet, and cute and sappy with each other - because it's not them. They'll be fun and funny, hot and passionate.

individuall
11-07-2008, 02:17 AM
Some people really don't understand Lois and Clark's interaction because they aren't sappy and sweet, ala Clana. They are not that way now, and they won't be that way when they finally get together (as seen in the comics).

Their interaction, which has more or less been the same since 1938, is classic screwball comedy banter and interaction; the kind seen between David and Susan in Bringing Up Baby and Walter and Hildy in His Girl Friday, classic moves both made around the same time.

Bantering and making digs about each other to each other is their way of flirting.

They will never be sweet, and cute and sappy with each other - because it's not them. They'll be fun and funny, hot and passionate.

I completely agree...And I wouldn't want them any other way :D

Dom20
11-07-2008, 02:59 AM
The one thing that bug me tonight was the continuity. In the end she said that she could never see Clark as her knight in shining armor. Oh really if thats so, than why the hell did you call him for help in the last episode. My the writing really gets to me sometimes.

CloisAroundTheGlobe
11-07-2008, 03:09 AM
The one thing that bug me tonight was the continuity. In the end she said that she could never see Clark as her knight in shining armor. Oh really if thats so, than why the hell did you call him for help in the last episode. My the writing really gets to me sometimes.

I caught on that also, but she probably just said it to hide how she feels about Clark, and to save herself SOME embarassment. :p

Ellsbury
11-07-2008, 03:25 AM
The way they were together in the PZ shows us that even they're not dating yet, Lois & Clark are already a couple.

Dom20
11-07-2008, 03:33 AM
I caught on that also, but she probably just said it to hide how she feels about Clark, and to save herself SOME embarassment. :p

Oh come on, how many times has Clark saved her in the series. Its not like they had hot sex in the phantom zone.

Mr.Magic
11-07-2008, 05:42 AM
The way they were together in the PZ shows us that even they're not dating yet, Lois & Clark are already a couple.

That is so L&C.

Lois: Clark asked me to marry him.
Perry: Lois, don't you think you oughtta try dating first?

DGirlLois4Clark
11-07-2008, 05:42 AM
I loved the clois scenes in this episode. I SQUEE'd when Clark said.. "NO ONE MESSES WITH LOIS AND CLARK!!"

Yippee. I love Clois the way it is. There is a thin line between love and hate. Clark and Lois looooooooooove eachother but they'd hate to admit it..Right now, that is:D

Bring on BRIDE:p

Lois and Clark's romance is different to any other from smallville. I totally agree with Jennifer's post in the previous page. Chlark and Clana had obsession in common.
Chlark- Chloe loved Clark from episode one..BUT WHY???????
Clana- Clark loved Lana from episode one..BUT WHY???????

A love that starts with obsession quality is temperamental and soon fades. I love the slow development of clois, thank u.

ColdPlay3r
11-07-2008, 06:05 AM
scenes were hectikkkkk

bring on bride, how many days left lol

Ryudo
11-07-2008, 08:29 AM
lois as she has been presented on Smallville is a jerkette and apparently without any friends, that is poor characterization no matter what the source of dis-inspiration.
I'm sorry, have we been watching the same show?

Clark and Chloe helping Lois move = friends

Isabel14
11-07-2008, 09:03 AM
It was so good! I remained without words. Can't wait for Bride

supes0
11-07-2008, 09:14 AM
Some people really don't understand Lois and Clark's interaction because they aren't sappy and sweet, ala Clana. They are not that way now, and they won't be that way when they finally get together (as seen in the comics).

Their interaction, which has more or less been the same since 1938, is classic screwball comedy banter and interaction; the kind seen between David and Susan in Bringing Up Baby and Walter and Hildy in His Girl Friday, classic moves both made around the same time.

Bantering and making digs about each other to each other is their way of flirting.

They will never be sweet, and cute and sappy with each other - because it's not them. They'll be fun and funny, hot and passionate.


Exactly. And that makes those quiet moment of affection that much more meaningful.

Regarding last night's episode, I still don't think Clark is where Lois is wrt his feelings. I think we have to wait until he resolves his feelings for Lana before he realizes he is in love Lois.

dalbajr
11-07-2008, 09:22 AM
When I saw Clark's face when she said she was going to move in...
My first thought was he didn't want her there because it would be harder for him to hide his secret with her living there with him.

DontCha
11-07-2008, 09:33 AM
really? whilst he sounded nervous about it, his face didnt show any sign of dread when she first said it or give off any sign that he wasnt welcoming the idea, it was open and friendly, almost pleasently surprised at her deciding to move in.....I almost expected him to say "really??you mean it??.."

his eyebrows raised and his mouth dropped, eyes wide open. the kind of thing a child does when their parent surprises them with a puppy. " YAY!!! I can keep it???"

but the most important thing is the raised eyebrows with no frown to them at all.

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he then proceeds to stutter at this moment where he openly showed his emotions, then mutters..."really???.....I...you didnt like it her remember?"

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I'm just tuning in (kind of slow) to the fact that Clark is physically attracted to Lois but is still a bit repulsed by her attitude and arrogance. They have moved on from disgust with each other but she still calls him "Smallville" and still makes light of his being a farmboy and has a very irritating personality. Contrast that with Clark and Lana making goo goo eyes at each other and then Lois comes along and talks too much, too loud and still puts him down. I think that's where Clark is in this situation. He wasn't happy that she wanted to move in and reminded her of past problems living there. I think that Clark is falling in love with her but still doesn't like her.

He's more than physically attracted to her he has "feelings for that creature" - Faora.

Even maxima knows he has a deep connection to her. Theres more there than physical attraction and Im glad the show is spelling it out for us as well as showing it because this is the last season and Clark has to start falling for Lois. Its like they knew some of the audience would deny it at all costs unless they spelled it out to them, even kara spells it out LOL

In the comics, Lois calls him Slmallville even when they are a couple, its an affectionate name she has for him. Secondy in the comics and ALL forms of media she is the only female that fascinates and infuriates him all at the same time and its why he is so attracted to her. Some readers dont get why the relationship works, but all you have to do is consider the fact that he is an alien not a human and she fascinates and infuriates him: She makes almost every human emotion in the spectrum come out in him often in the same scene. Smallville is no different, they have it down to an absoluite tee and have done since she was first introduced. When with her he feels EVERYTHING Not just love and affection, but lust, anger, jealousy, hate...all part of being a TRUE human being

If you watch his face when she first announces she'll move in, its different to every other time she has said it, this time it shows pleasent surprise, he then gets nervous, then concerned because he she vowed to expose his secret.

Are you also forgeting that clark actually WANTED lois to move in in instinct? of course he doesnt mind her there, but something has changed since then inthe corse of 2 episodes and this is what:

1. he's realized he has feelings for her - Committed
2. She wants to find superman and have an interview with him - Identity.

galatians221
11-07-2008, 10:06 AM
:rotfl:

Didn't you have a "love" in high school whom you were slightly obsessed with, but when (if) you got to date them, they just didn't live up to your expectations of them? :

No, she dumped me. Thanks a lot.

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Lana: You and Lois...?
Clark: Lois? She's bossy, she's stuck up, she's rude. I can't stand her!
Lana: The best ones always start out that way

yup, it all comes back to that, and just like SCF said "Clark doesn't want Lois to live there anymore for the same reason she told him NO the last time he asked. He likes her, and he doesn't want to. I thought the parallel was clear and well-done."

i totally agree, and i can't wait for more clois!
and the weird thing is that i'm a chlark fan!haha.

I thought that was Clark and his mom talking???????

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^ Maybe he was wondering if it was some sort of joke. Since Lois said it was from his mom, he thought that Martha had sent him a crystal that looked like the kryptonian crystal. (Just grasping at straws..)

Anyway... did you all notice when Lois was saying "we are standing on our graves! no more farm! No more.."

I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO SAY "NO MORE US! I CAN'T TAKE LOSING YOU.. I LOVE YOU!" Man.. why did Clark have to cut her off??

My heart leapt when Lois said she was going to move in! ERGHH... but I did notice that Clark WAS DISAPPOINTED when she said she wasn't moving in...

man.. i wonder why she changed her mind!! :confused:

Good point. What would have been great about that is that Clark would remember what she said but she wouldn't. Although, I still think she understands it wasn't just a dream.

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Some people really don't understand Lois and Clark's interaction because they aren't sappy and sweet, ala Clana. They are not that way now, and they won't be that way when they finally get together (as seen in the comics).

Their interaction, which has more or less been the same since 1938, is classic screwball comedy banter and interaction; the kind seen between David and Susan in Bringing Up Baby and Walter and Hildy in His Girl Friday, classic moves both made around the same time.

Bantering and making digs about each other to each other is their way of flirting.

They will never be sweet, and cute and sappy with each other - because it's not them. They'll be fun and funny, hot and passionate.

My problem with that is Lois should never get used to Clark being Superman. The writers did a good job with that regarding Chloe for quite a while; Clark would superspeed off and she would mouth "Wow" or she said once to Martha "Do you ever get used to that?" Now however, Chloe gets irritated with him if he comes in and rustles her papers and she's getting pretty bossy with him. That detracts imho from the amazing characteristics of Superman. When he ceases to be amazing to Chloe or Lois in the future then he is brought down a notch and the image suffers. That's why I didn't like Lois & Clark after they got married. Some smart guy, Voltaire I think said "familiarity breeds contempt". The writers have to be careful about that. There is a gravitas to Superman that must not be diminished.

DontCha
11-07-2008, 10:23 AM
By the end of the episode the point is made clear by Kara, Lois will be able to handle the secret. thats why Clark has let her so close. Clark agrees.

individuall
11-07-2008, 10:52 AM
My problem with that is Lois should never get used to Clark being Superman. The writers did a good job with that regarding Chloe for quite a while; Clark would superspeed off and she would mouth "Wow" or she said once to Martha "Do you ever get used to that?" Now however, Chloe gets irritated with him if he comes in and rustles her papers and she's getting pretty bossy with him. That detracts imho from the amazing characteristics of Superman. When he ceases to be amazing to Chloe or Lois in the future then he is brought down a notch and the image suffers. That's why I didn't like Lois & Clark after they got married. Some smart guy, Voltaire I think said "familiarity breeds contempt". The writers have to be careful about that. There is a gravitas to Superman that must not be diminished.

I sorta get what you're saying but the thing is...Though Lois respects and is amazed by Superman at first...I'm glad the awe kinda fades after a while...Lois needs to keep Clark grounded she's his human connection to the world...I like that she doesn't get awe struck every time he flies off that would be weird...Unfortunately as humans we tend to get used to things...I mean she's his wife in the comics..So I don't know how that exactly ruins the image...And I would HATE for her to be all 'worshipping' of him all the time....That's not Lois Lane...She needs to take Clark down a couple notches sometimes..

morrigan01
11-07-2008, 11:18 AM
I sorta get what you're saying but the thing is...Though Lois respects and is amazed by Superman at first...I'm glad the awe kinda fades after a while...Lois needs to keep Clark grounded she's his human connection to the world...I like that she doesn't get awe struck every time he flies off that would be weird...Unfortunately as humans we tend to get used to things...I mean she's his wife in the comics..So I don't know how that exactly ruins the image...And I would HATE for her to be all 'worshipping' of him all the time....That's not Lois Lane...She needs to take Clark down a couple notches sometimes..

You said pretty much what I was about to say. *tumbsup*

Lois is amazed by Superman at first, but in the modern comics, she still falls in love with Clark first. And how she and Clark interacted when they became friends and she started to fall for him IS in this classic screwball comedy way.

And when Lois finds out Superman IS Clark, the big deal was that Lois still continued to treat Clark exactly the same as she did BEFORE she found out he was Superman. She doesn't ever put him on a pedestal and worship him before or after.

kryptonaidxh
11-07-2008, 11:26 AM
By the end of the episode the point is made clear by Kara, Lois will be able to handle the secret. thats why Clark has let her so close. Clark agrees.

:DYes, and we know Lois is going to figure out his secret before Clark tells to her.:D
and ALL the clois scenes were rocking!:D

SnowBird
11-07-2008, 11:30 AM
I like how every episode that Clark and Lois are in together there is more attraction to each other. I believe when Lois came to the farm to move in, Clark hesitated because he is afraid of his feelings for Lois and he will get even closer to her. They are both fighting the inevitable. Even though they won't tell each other how they feel, their actions are speaking volumes. Their scenes together were so good. Since their relationship seems to be moving fast, I just hope something doesn't come along and wipe it all away so they have to start all over again discovering their feelings for each other. Or maybe there will be enough road blocks to postpone them getting together. As much as I would love to see them together, it seems too soon. A little Lois and Clark progress through this season and maybe next is going to keep fans coming back for more. I will definately be looking forward to that first kiss and simultanious recognition of love.

FinnHarp
11-07-2008, 12:07 PM
I think the thing Kara said about that's wjy you let her get so close is interesting. I mean most of the other peole that have gotten close to Clark were trying to figure out his secret and he always tried to keep them back a bit in case they did. Lois, as far as we know, doesn't know or doesn't care about Clarks secret and therefore Clark has let her get a lot closer than he would've if she had shown any signs of being interested in his secret. I'd immagine this all happened subconsciously for Clark over the years but in many ways Lois has accepted him for who he is and has always dismissed his "superman" activities as him just being a bit odd. I know she ribs him about it all the time but she's never made a big deal about it or made it into something bigger. Clark has become comfortable around her and has never really had to explain himself to her which lets face it, wether your a shipper or not, has to be a refreshing break from the years of Lana/Chloe/Lex all digging around him to find out his secret.

devilneedsaride
11-07-2008, 12:45 PM
Anyway... did you all notice when Lois was saying "we are standing on our graves! no more farm! No more.."

I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO SAY "NO MORE US! I CAN'T TAKE LOSING YOU.. I LOVE YOU!" Man.. why did Clark have to cut her off??


There's something I think I should point out about this line. Usually, when people are freaking out and think they're going to die, they'll flash to the thing they think they'll miss the most. Lois's panic here was intially centered around never seeing the farm or the Daily Planet again. While it wasn't a ham-in-the-face declaration of love, the feelings behind it were pretty clear. Why would she freak out about never seeing the farm again if she wasn't thinking about Clark? Has she developed a sudden and inexplicable love for pigs and haybales? And the second thing, the Daily Planet, is where she spends most of her time with Clark. She wasn't like "Clark if we die, I'll never get to tell you... to tell you... /cue the music and an overdone passionate kissing scene" because, well, that would have been dramatically out of character and pretty cliched, but she said essentially the same thing in a subtler way.

OneShotClois
11-07-2008, 02:19 PM
I loved this episode so much.
Clark has feelings for Lois. ;)

curiosity
11-07-2008, 02:33 PM
It's going to be tough to get through episodes without Lois.

SandyV
11-07-2008, 02:35 PM
You said pretty much what I was about to say. *tumbsup*

Lois is amazed by Superman at first, but in the modern comics, she still falls in love with Clark first. And how she and Clark interacted when they became friends and she started to fall for him IS in this classic screwball comedy way.

And when Lois finds out Superman IS Clark, the big deal was that Lois still continued to treat Clark exactly the same as she did BEFORE she found out he was Superman. She doesn't ever put him on a pedestal and worship him before or after.

I hope that she will know his secret before the end of the series. I want to see her know everything and treat him the same as she always has, only now she will be in on the references.

Kevin24
11-07-2008, 02:35 PM
I really want to see Lois and Clark playing guitar hero all weekend. She said that they used to play guitar hero all weekend before!

I want to see these things happening but then again it might not be as good as my imagination.

Anyway, my favorite scene between them was when Lois was freaking out about not being in Smallville anymore and talking about the things they wouldn't be able to do anymore. I half expected her to lay one on him during that little speech.

I enjoyed Clark reassuring her and making her feel better. When Lois told Kara she rather stick with Clark and his right hook told me that she is starting to feel alot safer with Clark around and doesn't seem him as the dorky farmboy anymore.

The other scene I liked is when Lois said that Clark was his knight in shining armour and Clark liked the idea of being her knight in shining armour and Lois just said that's why it was just a hallucination because I'd never think of you as my knight in shining armour. I know it didn't go exactly like that but oh well lol.

Oh I almost forgot! When Lois didn't want to leave Clark behind and Kara had to push her into the portal to get her to leave. Lois is a great person to have with you in dire times because she won't leave you behind.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-07-2008, 03:16 PM
They were good scenes.

I don't know why the whole PZ trip had to be brushed off though.

Lois could just be trying to deny the whole thing or she just doesn't want to press the issue.

galatians221
11-07-2008, 03:31 PM
They were good scenes.

I don't know why the whole PZ trip had to be brushed off though.

Lois could just be trying to deny the whole thing or she just doesn't want to press the issue.

Agreed. Lois has known CK is special since he freed her from the electric chair. She is conflicted because as an ace reporter she wants the inside scoop but as a friend who is falling in love she is cautious and isn't sure how to proceed. She wants to move in then she doesn't want to move in. She has stated in the electric chair that she loves Clark and he heard her. He graciously helped her save face but nothing changed. Lois doesn't know the full extent of his being Superman, she could be believing he's a meteor freak but I'm certain that she knows that he's The Blur. They can and are having a lot of fun with this and I'm enjoying every minute of it.

eas
11-07-2008, 03:33 PM
I think it is more like this.

Clark doesn't want Lois to live there anymore for the same reason she told him NO the last time he asked. He likes her, and he doesn't want to. I thought the parallel was clear and well-done.

Clark is obviously physically attracted to Lois. However, they started off in a position of rivalry right off of the bat. I am not bothered that Lois is slightly irritating. Lois has always been slightly irritating. However, I don't think she is making fun of him anymore, and hasn't been for a while. Just last episode she said he was "no hack." In front of him, however, she has her guard up, and uses insults to disguise her feelings. Classic Lois. However, when the situation really calls for it, she thinks she is going to die, etc, she lets the guard down. Classic Lois.

As for Clark, I think HE is just realizing he has feelings for her, so this comfortable place he thought he had with her (annoying co-worker, sort of friend) is being challenged. Classic Clark. He, when confronted, goes into Uber-protective mode (which we saw tonight), or uses insults (ones that neither of them mind, or they would DO something about it and/or avoid each other) to get back to the comfortable place. Classic Clark, doesn't want to "ruin" the friendship.

I don't think that after tonight one can say Clark doesn't like Lois as more than a friend. He is also becoming comfortable with this, and didn't, you will notice, call Kara on what she said in the loft, nor did he look even mildly surprised when Faora called him on it. It is now a given for him. He will be the first to admit this (not under penalty of pain or death like Lois - Classic Lois), mark my words. This all seems very organic to me.

And, the difference between goo-goo eyes love and what will be shown between Lois and Clark (or is in the comics, anyway) is that goo-goo love isn't real, it is teenaged love, it is loving the idea of someone rather than an actual person. I think the whole of Clana was teenaged love at first, and then the love of an idea rather than a person, and I think the show, for all of its faults, showed exactly that. The Clois is being shown as friends (admittedly, in season 4) who become attracted to each other (season 6) and now that is growing into something more (season 8). The Lana was just, for both of them, teenaged love, and was never portrayed as real. Obsessive love isn't real, it isn't cute, and it isn't even love (by the way, this is my main problem with Chlark - I can't stand Chloe's obsessiveness and to say it is love demeans Chloe's character). Hopefully, with Lana's return, this goo-goo eyes thing will be put to rest for good.

VERY well said. ITA.

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:rotfl:

No, seriously, everyone has loving looks with their spouse, but if your wife acted like Clark did with Lana, she would be irritating as well. Didn't you have a "love" in high school whom you were slightly obsessed with, but when (if) you got to date them, they just didn't live up to your expectations of them? I had a dude write me a note, in his own blood, in study hall, and then hand it to me. I am sure he thought he loved me, but me, I contacted the counselor. This is just Lana I am talking about here, not Lois.

Personally, I don't think Clark is that irritated, or he would avoid Lois. Instead, he seems to be drawn to her. You may find her annoying, but after Lana, Lois would probably be a breath of fresh air to Clark, really.:lol:

:rotfl:

Blood? That reminds me of my ex... when we were engaged, he once baked cookies in the shape of my name & Fed-exed it to me. Setting aside that they were completely inedible, I was so annoyed.... in fact, it still annoys me to this day.

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THat bothered me to. When they were fighting Titan, she punched him in the stomach and her hand hurt, but she punches his arm CONSTANTLY, and nothing. Maybe she isn't hitting hard, and that is the difference?

I've always assumed he's absorbing the punch and, through lightening quick reflexes, he moves away from her hand. I don't know if you've noticed, but Welling always makes it a point to kind of lean back when Durance punches him. It's a consistent thing he does in his acting (one of the reasons why I think he's a very under-rated actor) where he moves a bit when it appears that Lois is about to punch Clark. Then, he always kind of looks down where she punched him and exaggerates how hard she hit him.

herolee10
11-07-2008, 04:46 PM
while I had wished like some here that we would've gotten a better ending scene with Clark and Lois in this episode, especially if it was a hospital scene between them with them possibly holding hands with each other after the events of this episode, I was overall pleased with this episode.

This episode just further showed why Clark and Lois are so right with each other. When it really comes down to it, Lois feels like she can trust Clark more than anyone. Had Lois been stuck in the PZ with anyone else, even with Oliver, I don't think she would've allowed herself to break down at the fear of dying there and would've further placed the facade that she was Calm, since her father trained her to act calm during stressful situations.

However, not with Clark.

With Clark, she actually allowed herself to put down her walls and show him her worries and fears about being in a place like that. She actually trusts Clark enough to feel that she can be safe with him, that when all else fails, she can fall back on him for support and comfort, and that's something that I think everyone who knows Lois well in SV would find somewhat impossible for anyone to acheive this relationship/bond with Lois.

I loved how Clark handled himself in the PZ as well, especially in front of Lois. We all know how much Clark hates that place and has been recorded to say that he would never want to visit that place, but with Lois there he knows he has to step up and assure her and make sure that he will never let anything happen to her.

I also loved how Lois was literally refusing to go back without Clark.

And most importantly of all, we could a glimpse of how Clark would really feel with the aspect of him possibly allowing Lois to know his secret, not because he feels like he has no other choice, but because he trusts her and for the first time, he feels that by letting her know his secret she'll be safer perhaps.

Whenever someone bugged Clark to let someone else know his secret, in particular Lana, Clark would also refuse saying it was for the better, but when Kara mentioned that he should let Lois know, he didn't even at all refuse at the idea and just nodded probably thinking, I think you may be right about that.

It feels good to be a Cloiser right now..lol

galatians221
11-07-2008, 06:00 PM
while I had wished like some here that we would've gotten a better ending scene with Clark and Lois in this episode, especially if it was a hospital scene between them with them possibly holding hands with each other after the events of this episode, I was overall pleased with this episode.

This episode just further showed why Clark and Lois are so right with each other. When it really comes down to it, Lois feels like she can trust Clark more than anyone. Had Lois been stuck in the PZ with anyone else, even with Oliver, I don't think she would've allowed herself to break down at the fear of dying there and would've further placed the facade that she was Calm, since her father trained her to act calm during stressful situations.

However, not with Clark.

With Clark, she actually allowed herself to put down her walls and show him her worries and fears about being in a place like that. She actually trusts Clark enough to feel that she can be safe with him, that when all else fails, she can fall back on him for support and comfort, and that's something that I think everyone who knows Lois well in SV would find somewhat impossible for anyone to acheive this relationship/bond with Lois.

I loved how Clark handled himself in the PZ as well, especially in front of Lois. We all know how much Clark hates that place and has been recorded to say that he would never want to visit that place, but with Lois there he knows he has to step up and assure her and make sure that he will never let anything happen to her.

I also loved how Lois was literally refusing to go back without Clark.

And most importantly of all, we could a glimpse of how Clark would really feel with the aspect of him possibly allowing Lois to know his secret, not because he feels like he has no other choice, but because he trusts her and for the first time, he feels that by letting her know his secret she'll be safer perhaps.

Whenever someone bugged Clark to let someone else know his secret, in particular Lana, Clark would also refuse saying it was for the better, but when Kara mentioned that he should let Lois know, he didn't even at all refuse at the idea and just nodded probably thinking, I think you may be right about that.

It feels good to be a Cloiser right now..lol

Having been through the eons of Clana melodrama it's like eating a great meal after being starved for a very long time. This was far too long in coming.

herolee10
11-07-2008, 06:44 PM
Having been through the eons of Clana melodrama it's like eating a great meal after being starved for a very long time. This was far too long in coming.

indeed. Had the PS3 taken over and Miles and Gough had left a season ago when we still had a bigger budget and Lex with the rest, we could have avoided wasting time like Clark living on the farm with Lana and Lois and Grant having somewhat of office fling. We could have had Clark and Lois developing their feelings from then on like how we're having it now and have them possibly a couple right now without having to worry if we'll get a season 9 or not and being able to see them at that stage in the possible season 9.

It just goes to show you how much of a bad sting Miles and Gough had on the show even with its great cast and better budget back then. Because even though we lost 4 series regulars and the budget got cut, this season is getting much better ratings and reviews.

Alicia Chipy
11-07-2008, 11:17 PM
This season we are being served surf & turf on a hotdog budget and minus 4 of the regulars.Keep up the good work and Clois PS3.I'm here for the show's duration.

galatians221
11-07-2008, 11:40 PM
indeed. Had the PS3 taken over and Miles and Gough had left a season ago when we still had a bigger budget and Lex with the rest, we could have avoided wasting time like Clark living on the farm with Lana and Lois and Grant having somewhat of office fling. We could have had Clark and Lois developing their feelings from then on like how we're having it now and have them possibly a couple right now without having to worry if we'll get a season 9 or not and being able to see them at that stage in the possible season 9.

It just goes to show you how much of a bad sting Miles and Gough had on the show even with its great cast and better budget back then. Because even though we lost 4 series regulars and the budget got cut, this season is getting much better ratings and reviews.

Which makes me think, why is Millar and Gough's ink bottle still at the end credits? I thought they were outta there.

Violet-Shadow
11-08-2008, 12:18 AM
The PZ Clois scenes were all so wonderful. They really showed just how deeply Clark and Lois care for each other. I hope to see more of that as the season progresses...

LCforever
11-08-2008, 02:23 AM
There's something I think I should point out about this line. Usually, when people are freaking out and think they're going to die, they'll flash to the thing they think they'll miss the most. Lois's panic here was intially centered around never seeing the farm or the Daily Planet again. While it wasn't a ham-in-the-face declaration of love, the feelings behind it were pretty clear. Why would she freak out about never seeing the farm again if she wasn't thinking about Clark? Has she developed a sudden and inexplicable love for pigs and haybales? And the second thing, the Daily Planet, is where she spends most of her time with Clark. She wasn't like "Clark if we die, I'll never get to tell you... to tell you... /cue the music and an overdone passionate kissing scene" because, well, that would have been dramatically out of character and pretty cliched, but she said essentially the same thing in a subtler way.

EXACTLY what I was thinking! When a person is panicking they are worrying that this is going to be their last few seconds alive! Why would she be saying "No more farm.." that in Lois speak= There is no chance for us to be together!

I wonder if Clark caught on to that.

I was expecting a hug though. Man... I guess Clark was just too worried about getting her out of the PZ. I think Lois would have given Clark a hug if she had known that Clark wasn't going to go into the portal with her.

Sigh. I really don't know what I'm going to do 2 WEEKS WITHOUT CLOIS!! :(

lisasstar
11-08-2008, 05:53 AM
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but when Clark opened that package, he seemed very nonchalant about taking out the crystal and examining it right in front of Lois, no qualms about her seeing it or maybe asking what it was. He wasn't trying to hide anything from her. And she's so nonchalant about all the weirdness that happens to her when she's around Clark. Very interesting.

Kal-ed
11-08-2008, 12:23 PM
hey, is it me, or Lois accidentally caused herself to have a visual of a semi naked Clark??

When she say´s: "cmon, what´s the worst thing that can happen?... Id see you in your snoopy boxers?" sudenly she becomes silent and her eyes go up and down Clark´s body and quickly, that being her specialty, she changes the subject with the "care package"


In overall I liked it, I think the las scene should have been softer, of course Lois being defensive is normal but I didnt particularly care for her "Im all that" attitude about her raise, specially when us, the viewers, know why she got it and it wasnt on her merit, I know its probably not on purpose but they keep making Lois seem like a self centered woman fooling herself and we keep seing her taking credit where us the viewers know she doesnt deserve it; they have Tess saying stuff like "I thought she had nothing but air in her head" (or something along those lines) then continues to praise her yet its not really Lois, its Faora who´s being praised, why couldnt they have Tess aknowledge Lois´s skills??

I dont know, I thought she came off as dumb and extremely overconfident in front of Clark, who realistically should be laughing histerically on the inside, knowing Lois is taking credit for stuff she had no contol over and that she´s not "all that" (at least TPTB havent made it their point to show us that) hope they start writting her more down to earth, I like the cockyness but have her do something to be cocky about.

I cant believe its still my complain after years, Lois should soften up with Clark, it seems to take rather amazingly extreme life or death situations for her to take a notch down her attitude towards him, like someone mentioned, he´s saved her dozens of times and Im not counting the ones she doesnt know about and she still is relcutant to admit he has been her knight in shinning armor:confused:

FinnHarp
11-08-2008, 12:30 PM
hey, is it me, or Lois accidentally caused herself to have a visual of a semi naked Clark??

When she say´s: "cmon, what´s the worst thing that can happen?... Id see you in your snoopy boxers?" sudenly she becomes silent and her eyes go up and down Clark´s body and quickly, that being her specialty, she changes the subject with the "care package"


In overall I liked it, I think the las scene should have been softer, of course Lois being defensive is normal but I didnt particularly care for her "Im all that" attitude about her raise, specially when us, the viewers, know why she got it and it wasnt on her merit, I know its probably not on purpose but they keep making Lois seem like a self centered woman fooling herself and we keep seing her taking credit where us the viewers know she doesnt deserve it;


I thought that too about the boxers!!! :) After she siad it it was kind of like she was imagining him in his boxers. Lois is a perv :lol:

As for the last Clois scene I agree, I would've liked something a bit nicer but hey after 3 seasons living on tiny scraps of Clois I'll take what we're given.
As for the Lois thinking she got a raise for being her thing, I like to think that maybe behind the scenes Lois has been investigating Lex on her own. Maybe she's been keeping it a secret because of all the stuff that Lex had done to people in the past and she's been trying to protect Chloe, Clark etc. Maybe she is suspicious of the raise but instead of questioning it there and then she'll just accept it to keep her there and carry on with her investigations in private.
It's probably just wishful thinking but I think that's the way to go for Lois this season, after Bride and the Lana episodes we'll all discover that Lois knows a hell of a lot more about everything that's been going on than she lets on.

kookykrumbs
11-08-2008, 01:12 PM
I think we have to savor this episode and 'Bride' because for the next 5 episodes, Lois will only be in one of them.

DontCha
11-08-2008, 01:12 PM
im just glad the show is spelling it out for everyone that Clark has feelings for Lois now.

OneShotClois
11-08-2008, 01:23 PM
im just glad the show is spelling it out for everyone that Clark has feelings for Lois now.

Me too. Before we weren't so sure, and now it's basically been proven.

galatians221
11-08-2008, 01:32 PM
Me too. Before we weren't so sure, and now it's basically been proven.

I don't think that Clark is as far along as Lois is. Clark has a deep, committed relationship with Chloe that is not sexual and while he's starting to get the hots for Lois part of that is his protective instincts and his loneliness. I'd say it's 50/50 with Clark regarding Lois. On the other hand, I think that they both are waiting on the other and don't want to face rejection. Clark isn't quite ready but he's heading in the right direction. I'd say Lois is more like 80/20.

DontCha
11-08-2008, 01:42 PM
^^ clark is way, way WAY behind Lois I agree, she's totally comfortable about loving him but he's nowhere even near that. Thing is she's still not exactly comfortable about him knowing it, but within herself, she's comfortable with the knowledge IMO. She stareted falling for him way back at the end of season 7. He's only just realised that something is deeper when it comes to Lois 2 epsides ago lol

LOl OneShotClois i was always sure that he had feelings for her

that ending to committed to me was so obvious when it came to clark lol

it was THE moment where he began to fall for her.

Clark-Lois
11-08-2008, 10:32 PM
"All I ever wanted was to keep Lois away from my secret, yesterday that nearly got her killed"

So it sounds to me like Clark was saying that NOT telling Lois his secret put her in danger...Interesting...Then Kara drops her "Lois could handle it. She's tough" line...Maybe Clark will willingly tell Lois his secret this season...Or am I just being weird...Any thoughts...


Ur not weird. i hope she does find out. i prefer that Clark tells her instead of finding out like Chloe did.

individuall
11-08-2008, 10:38 PM
^I hope that too...Clark willingly telling Lois his secret would be awesome...She'd be the first person he's told without being forced/tricked into it...(I don't count 'Reckoning' since they went back in time and changed reality...So technically it was Lana he told first, but that was 'fixed')...
However, I wouldn't mind if she figured it out on her own and just sat back and waited for Clark to tell her either..Instead of pulling a Jimmy and ambushing him...

Clark-Lois
11-08-2008, 10:58 PM
It's going to be tough to get through episodes without Lois.


I know what you mean. I mean i love Smallville and I've loved it before season 4. but since Lois came on the show and knowing that Clark and Lois are soul mates and end up as husband and wife, i look forward to the upcoming eps, but REALLY get excited about the eps that have Lois in them.

galatians221
11-09-2008, 12:26 AM
I know what you mean. I mean i love Smallville and I've loved it before season 4. but since Lois came on the show and knowing that Clark and Lois are soul mates and end up as husband and wife, i look forward to the upcoming eps, but REALLY get excited about the eps that have Lois in them.

It's funny but I hated ED as Lois for the first two years or so but now I think she's fabulous. It seemed like most of the time early on they had her half dressed or posing as a stripper and I didn't like a floozy Lois Lane. Now they've cut back on the cheapness and made her to be more well rounded (pun not intended) and I see that ED is a very, very good actress and I'm enjoying the give and take between her and CK and hope that she is in every episode after the break. It has become a better version of Lois and Clark for me.

malcrew
11-09-2008, 02:04 AM
Loved the Clois scenes too. I still think she may move in with Clark. It was Faora who actually spoke to Tess. Once Tess realizes that she is not getting the info she needs
about Kal-el from Lois, She'd probably cancel her pay increase.

harryandginnyfanatic
11-09-2008, 05:20 AM
Lois was probably just using the raise as an excuse not to move into the farm.

She remembers what happend in the Phantom Zone.

Clark-Lois
11-09-2008, 07:12 PM
It's funny but I hated ED as Lois for the first two years or so but now I think she's fabulous. It seemed like most of the time early on they had her half dressed or posing as a stripper and I didn't like a floozy Lois Lane. Now they've cut back on the cheapness and made her to be more well rounded (pun not intended) and I see that ED is a very, very good actress and I'm enjoying the give and take between her and CK and hope that she is in every episode after the break. It has become a better version of Lois and Clark for me.

I've heard a lot of people say they didn't like Lois Lane in season 4. When the promos came on saying that Lois was coming to smallville. i got excited. i have not been disappointed since day one. but i've pretty much been a CLoiser all my life so i guess i am biased. i will say that i am extremely happy that she will be in more episodes this season. so far i love all the cloisness. my fav ep this season so far is Committed.

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Loved the Clois scenes too. I still think she may move in with Clark. It was Faora who actually spoke to Tess. Once Tess realizes that she is not getting the info she needs
about Kal-el from Lois, She'd probably cancel her pay increase.

I know i was thinking the same thing. i was a little upset when she revealed that she wasn't moving in. but she will have too. Tess won't play games.

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Lois was probably just using the raise as an excuse not to move into the farm.

She remembers what happend in the Phantom Zone.

I totally agree. she might say that it was a hallucination but she knows otherwise. remember in Identity she went on a "date" and she was actually going undercover? Lois can keep things to herself when she needs to and i think this is like that. she has it filed away for later.

alejandrita439
11-09-2008, 09:35 PM
i love a lot the scenes in bloodline :):):)
i want more...

only 11 days until bride :)

kimmiss
11-09-2008, 10:49 PM
What is just me? or the scene where Kara zaps Lois and Lois falls on top of Clark would have been funnier if Lois had woken up right away and found herself straddled on top of Clark.

I think the idea of Lois living on the farm was idiotic and the writers are trying to correct the mistake- the " I'm getting a raise and can get my own apartment " was wierd.

alejandrita439
11-09-2008, 10:52 PM
What is just me? or the scene where Kara zaps Lois and Lois falls on top of Clark would have been funnier if Lois had woken up right away and found herself straddled on top of Clark.

i know..
that would have been so funny :lol::lol::lol:

Sweetie
11-10-2008, 08:47 AM
I defenetly loved their scenes.In PZ,when he woke up,Clark was trying to grab Lois's hand but,he got sand instead...he was so upset that she wasn't near him(already misses his Lois).The way,he ran to her when he discovers where she was prouves that he is so hooked on her.Lana doesn't stand a chance,Clois is the best(noone's gonna mess with Lois & Clark).They were looking out for each other that was so sweet.Funny that at the first,Clark wasn't sure about Lois moving in.At the end,it's her who changed her mind. Clark didn't like it because he understood that she was more traumatised than she was willing to admit.

When she became Faora,he was so worried about her."It's all my fault Lois,I'm sorry!"He took her hand then she pushed him outside the window.Even Faora notices the feelings he has for Lois.I enjoyed their little fight.Of course,he couldn't defend himself as much as he could because it was still Lois's body.It would be great if she had come back to herself just as she fell on Clark...bad timing :D

harryandginnyfanatic
11-10-2008, 06:19 PM
I totally agree. she might say that it was a hallucination but she knows otherwise. remember in Identity she went on a "date" and she was actually going undercover? Lois can keep things to herself when she needs to and i think this is like that. she has it filed away for later.

In typical Lois fashion she brushed it off, even though she knows there's something more to it.

galatians221
11-11-2008, 04:09 PM
In typical Lois fashion she brushed it off, even though she knows there's something more to it.

Agreed. I hope they keep that part of the story line on top for a long time. She knows something but only perhaps that he's the Blur. Her inquisitive mind should make this interesting and hopefully carry over into S9 and beyond.

OneShotClois
11-11-2008, 04:25 PM
What is just me? or the scene where Kara zaps Lois and Lois falls on top of Clark would have been funnier if Lois had woken up right away and found herself straddled on top of Clark.

I think the idea of Lois living on the farm was idiotic and the writers are trying to correct the mistake- the " I'm getting a raise and can get my own apartment " was wierd.

I so wished we could have seen Lois wake up in his arms. I was a little disapointed when that didn't happen. Oh well, there were a lot of other scenes in Bloodline that were amazingly Cloisious ;)

I agree with the bottom half as well. It was kind of pointless to have Lois say she's moving in only to take it back by the end of the episode. My little heart was pounding when she was standing outside holding boxes. Then I was really disapointed to know she was taking back the offer. Like wdh was that for? :mad: Her saying that thing about the raise and now can suddenly afford an apartment is total BS to me.

Illuminati
11-11-2008, 05:25 PM
Her saying that thing about the raise and now can suddenly afford an apartment is total BS to me.

It's a pretext for the writers not to have her to move at his farm (she only came back so she touches the crystal). But it doesn't mean she will never be back again, they just think it'd be a little too sudden.

DontCha
11-11-2008, 06:59 PM
Lois was probably just using the raise as an excuse not to move into the farm.

She remembers what happend in the Phantom Zone.


she remembers loving clark to the extreme in there too lol

ginnyfan
11-12-2008, 10:37 AM
I agree with the bottom half as well. It was kind of pointless to have Lois say she's moving in only to take it back by the end of the episode. My little heart was pounding when she was standing outside holding boxes. Then I was really disapointed to know she was taking back the offer. Like wdh was that for? :mad: Her saying that thing about the raise and now can suddenly afford an apartment is total BS to me.

I think it was a tease to get little Clois hearts beating faster. Also as Illuminati says it was a contrivance to get Lois near the crystal so Feora could inhabit her body.

I'm one Cloiser who never really hoped that Lois would move in at the farm. I actually want her to get her own place in Metropolis. But I can understand that she'd reached the breaking point with Chloe and Jimmy. The Talon apartment is TINY!

jobookjunkie
11-12-2008, 11:04 AM
*long sigh*

I love Lois. I love Clark. I love lois'n'clark :lol:

Just so as y'all know where I'm coming from :D The thing that always always REALLY annoyed me about Lana was that she never, ever, let up with the whole 'you have secrets' whining. I don't know any real people who would wanna be friends with her cos she isn't really being a friend (or girlfriend) by constantly asking them about something they have no desire to share. Sure, Lois can be as curious as the next person but what I like about her is that she doesn't wanna know everything. I think she's a bit like Jonathan Kent in that regard becauseI seem to remember him telling Lex (don't remember what the episode's called though, it's that one with the dead-guy-walking) that he just accepted some things, especially miraculous things, for what they were, rather than investigating them like Lex did. Lois is a good friend to have and I'm sure she has noticed weird things about Clark, but she would rather let him tell her all about it.

I've just relived some bad Clana memories :mad: I will rewatch the PZ bit in Bloodline to cleanse my mind :rotfl:

jasmin28
11-18-2008, 03:08 PM
"No one's gonna mess with Lois and Clark"

awesome line

seara
11-19-2008, 02:53 PM
"No one's gonna mess with Lois and Clark"

Not even the "bloody" mess that will end up upon Chloe's story line pretty soon ?

Although cute little monsters should never be called a mess. At least in my personal opinion and experience.

doubtless
02-15-2009, 03:16 PM
Definitely loved the scenes between those two, so great.

xrayvision
04-20-2009, 11:48 AM
^I hope that too...Clark willingly telling Lois his secret would be awesome...She'd be the first person he's told without being forced/tricked into it...(I don't count 'Reckoning' since they went back in time and changed reality...So technically it was Lana he told first, but that was 'fixed')...
However, I wouldn't mind if she figured it out on her own and just sat back and waited for Clark to tell her either..Instead of pulling a Jimmy and ambushing him...

I don't think Pete forced him into either. I definitely think he would have lost his friendship with him, but I doubt his secret would have been exposed since there was no proof (the ship was gone).

To me, Clark told Pete & presumably tells Lois because he values their friendship to the point that he thought it was worth it for them to know and would make Pete a better buddy and Lois a better friend/and soon to be much more. We saw how different Clark was after Pete left (he was mopey & had no male buddies anymore).

I'm not saying Chloe wasn't a friend, but she did too much digging into him for Clark to be open and tell her without Chloe knowing about his powers first. And Lana was way too conniving & too much like Lex for him to tell her before she resorted to tricks like she did in Promise. If Lana wasn't with Lex & in danger, I doubt he would have ever told her about the alien part.

I'd love to see Pete back as Clark's buddy next season with Lois as his gf & Jimmy as another pal. That would create an awesome cliq like the Clark-Chloe-Pete cliq of the early seasons.

xrayvision
04-20-2009, 12:46 PM
EXACTLY what I was thinking! When a person is panicking they are worrying that this is going to be their last few seconds alive! Why would she be saying "No more farm.." that in Lois speak= There is no chance for us to be together!


Every time I watch that scene, I wonder what else Lois would have said if Clark didn't interrupt her. I wonder if she would have revealed anything about her fantasy future with Clark. It certainly seemed to be headed in that direction.

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I like how every episode that Clark and Lois are in together there is more attraction to each other. I believe when Lois came to the farm to move in, Clark hesitated because he is afraid of his feelings for Lois and he will get even closer to her. They are both fighting the inevitable. Even though they won't tell each other how they feel, their actions are speaking volumes. Their scenes together were so good. Since their relationship seems to be moving fast, I just hope something doesn't come along and wipe it all away so they have to start all over again discovering their feelings for each other. Or maybe there will be enough road blocks to postpone them getting together. As much as I would love to see them together, it seems too soon. A little Lois and Clark progress through this season and maybe next is going to keep fans coming back for more. I will definately be looking forward to that first kiss and simultanious recognition of love.

I think the reason he didn't want her to move in was the carpooling thing. I think he enjoyed just running to work rather than driving and if Lois was with him, she would hop in the car & expect him to ride with her. I think he was disappointed in the end because he got a lot closer to her thanks to the Phantom Zone adventure & wouldn't mind the drive since they would spend more time together. Even more, I think he hoped that Kara was right & his secret for once didn't ruin a relationship. Once she told him that she would get a place of her own, he assumed that his secret was to blame.

xrayvision
04-20-2009, 02:37 PM
Apparently kara said how many innocent lives is this woman worth? Im guessing alot since clark didnt care and just wanted to send her back?

I think Clark was confident that he could get her back without letting out any prisoners.

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OK, here's a question for you guys...

Why do you think that Clark said, "All I've ever wanted is to keep Lois away from my secret and now she got close to it and she got hurt." (or something like that)

That line and the line he makes to Lois about "I'm sorry, it's all my fault"... dare I say it... reminded me of Clana.

*ducks as Clois fans throw knives*

No, seriously... I'm as big of a Clois fan as there could be... but - honestly - didn't that strike you as a bit out of the blue???? I mean... since when does Clark talk about Lois like that?

I think this was the first time that Lois was hurt by Clark's secret when he was around (he was trapped in the Phantom Zone when she was in the jet with Martha that went down thanks to Brainiac). So I don't think it was OOC at all. He usually blames himself when bad things happen to people close to him. It's not only Lana. He blamed himself when Jonathan had a heart attack in season 3, when Chloe fell out the mansion window in Kinetic, and several other times. And keeping Lois away from his secret is something he wanted to do with everyone who initially didn't know his secret. He wanted to do the same thing with Chloe, Lana, Lex, and Pete. He told Pete because he valued his friendship & deep down he had been wanting to have a friend of his know. He will likely tell Lois for the same reason (plus because he's falling for her). He was forced to tell Lois & Lana because they both found out about his powers without him wanting them to know. But before he told anyone, his instinctive reaction is to keep anyone else from finding out his secret & to spare them the pain.

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But Clark has never been conflicted about Lois knowing his secret before... mainly because Lois doesn't MAKE him conflicted.

That's because he never even sported the notion that she would learn his secret or get close enough to be endangered by it. Prior to season 8, Lois always underestimated Clark & she thought he would be the last person who would have a secret like he has. So there was no reason for Clark to be conflicted. He thought keeping Lois from his secret would be easy for the reasons I just mentioned. But with Lois moving into the farm (temporarily) & getting closer to him, he's now expressing how his concerns about Lois knowing his secret. I don't think there is anything Clana-esque about it. It's just a result of complications brought on by the evolution of Clark's relationship with Lois.

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I thought the early Clark/Lois stuff worked in this episode. Clois in the Phantom Zone, and Clark being determined to get her out, and Lois not wanting to leave him. That was all good stuff. But I didn't care at all for the last Clois scene. Again, the dialogue left me cold, and sort of crossed that line between banter and belittling. I was hoping for a softer scene at the end between them, especially since this episode kept telling me Clark had feelings for Lois. I'd personally like a bit more showing, and a lot less telling. I also thought Lois should've been suspicious of Tess giving her a raise. She came off as a bit clueless there.

So, for me, I voted just OK. I think they started off really strong, but didn't finish it that way. JMHO, from the non'shippers bench :)

I say the same BT. That last scene was definitely not the best. I'm a non-shipper who has enjoyed the Clark-Lois interaction when done right. And I think it was done right in the entire episode except that last scene. If it wasn't for that, I may have said that this was the best if not one of the best episodes showing the interaction. I loved the stuff in the Phantom Zone. I was hoping Clark would have stayed behind in the Phantom Zone & that Faora stuff not happened so that Clark could have maybe found the Eradicator in the Phantom Zone before returning.

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I think Lois knows he has a secret but she doesn't bug him about it..I think her method is 'If he wants to tell me he will" it's one of the things I love about her :D

I don't think she does. Which is why Clark's admission in Infamous was not even enough until he actually showed her.

RaniaLovesClois
06-16-2009, 08:40 AM
Definitely.

NadiaBreca
08-31-2009, 06:33 PM
Definitely :D;).