#1-6: "Knight Of The Living Dead"

[dru-zod2501]

nobody forgot about this did they? I got to start it up, I feel special now

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pretty good intro. Is there a traitor in the group?

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KITT is actually rather annoying tonight, I must say

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uh oh... poor KITT. All these questions, and KITT's wired to blow too?

If I was KITT I wouldn't trust the team anymore, at least not completely for a while... he's smart enough to fight back in his own way

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what are the odds it's like a guy with a hightech synthesizer behind all this?

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KARR sounds badass, I hope he's not totally destroyed. I want KITT vs. KARR for the season finale, c'mon NBC!!!

[Randy G.]

Damn it! I fell asleep and missed the show completely. :(

[jym-el]

Knight Auto-cybernetic Roving Robot?

umm... not impressed.

what will they come up next with...

GOLIATH

Giant Organic Living Intelligent Artificial Truck Hauler (aka Optimus Prime) lol...

[SuperClerk]

Knight Auto-cybernetic Roving Robot?

umm... not impressed.

what will they come up next with...

GOLIATH

Giant Organic Living Intelligent Artificial Truck Hauler (aka Optimus Prime) lol...

K.A.R.R. stood for Knight Automated Roving Robot in the original series. It worked then so I don't see how it wouldn't work now.

[TheGHOSTMAN 007]

K.A.R.R. stood for Knight Automated Roving Robot in the original series. It worked then so I don't see how it wouldn't work now.



I agree. Right now I am down about the KARR storyline. I really hope they tie the storyline to the original series. I will, of course, hold my final opinion of the KARR storyline until I see where they are taking it. I have really enjoyed the series so far and I hope I will enjoy this KARR storyline as well.

It is possible I will actually love this KARR storyline. It's just that the KARR episodes were my favorite from the original series. I really hope this new storyline ties back in to the original.

[KryptonSite]

The thing I'm unsure about though, is if the original KARR concept failed so badly, why would they create a new project or concept with the same name? Or is the KARR cyborg an advanced version of that original prototype? That confused me a bit.

Also, they were a bit vague... is this KITT the same KITT from before or an entirely new "being" also?

I have to admit I'm getting tired of "xx hacks into KITT's system/renders him useless" episodes.

[GuardianAngel]

The thing I'm unsure about though, is if the original KARR concept failed so badly, why would they create a new project or concept with the same name? Or is the KARR cyborg an advanced version of that original prototype? That confused me a bit.

Also, they were a bit vague... is this KITT the same KITT from before or an entirely new "being" also?

I have to admit I'm getting tired of "xx hacks into KITT's system/renders him useless" episodes.

I'm rather confused about this KARR. I mean, if Graiman created the original KITT, he must also have been involved in the creation of the original KARR, so why make the same mistake twice? They seemed to negate the whole link to the original KR in this episode and this bugs me a lot!
Also, new KARR looks like the badass robot in Robocop 1. It's not really a car!

[jym-el]

I also liked the Knight Automated Roving Robot episodes, probably that's why i was biased with the new Knight Auto-cybernetic Roving Robot thing.

based on KI3T's diagrams, i would say the new KARR is more of Johnny 5 (from the movie Short Circuit) or ED-205 (from Robocop). maybe they should hire John Connors to help them battle the Cyborg KARR... lol....

for the sake of continuity, they should explain why they used the accronym KARR for a new project/prototype before creating the KI3T.

what would be interesting though is to have a mad scientist dig-up the old KARR, took out it's Alpha circuit and created the new KARR. but then again, how would Dr. Graiman know about the new KARR if he was not involved?

i wouldn't be surprised if they resurrected GOLIATH as a:

Giant Organic Living Intelligent Artificial Truck Hauler

and since KI3T could transform into anything, then the new GOLIATH would also be able to transform from a long hauler/tractor trailer into... a robot?

[GuardianAngel]

I managed to capture a few pics (low quality) of KARR's appaearance:

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[GuardianAngel]

One last one:

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[Antithesis]

I too am a big fan of the original KARR episodes. This new thing has me both pissed off and intrigued at the same time.

I can think of a way for it too work though. They could say something like Graimon found KARR's CPU some time after(be it soon or a little while later) the original KITT and Michael Knight had their battle in the desert. Graimon, maybe a few years beofre the new KITT comes online, thinks he has gotten the bugs out of KARR's programming. He tests it and maybe even puts in in a new car. KARR was only playing along and goes berzerk. He leaves the lab or wherever KARR is thus killing the seven people mentioned. They see him again some time later and KARR has adjusted his name and has taken it upon himself to install some "upgrades".

If they explain it along those lines somehow I'd be happy with it. I really hope they do. I've this show has been getting better with each episode. I'd hate to see that stop.

[Xanderman]

I thought that was the best episode of the series by far. And ironically enough it had nothing really to do with driving/chasing/turbo boosting or transforming, lol. Just goes to show that writing and story/plot are the most important things, and always come first.

Before this episode I found the character of KITT immensely boring for the most part (they tend to do a lame job with his dialogue, imo). I'm not sure if Val Kilmer's voice acting made it more boring (not sure he was the best choice) but it was probably mainly just crappy writing. This episode had a much more interesting/better written KITT imo.

This ep also had me enjoying the other characters, the team, more than before as well. This might be connected though to my starting to get a little annoyed with the Mike actor/character...I'm finding him written to be a little too much on the immature/goofy side. And it doesn't help that the actor himself looks like an airhead, lol... These things about the actor/character make it harder for me to buy into Sarah being as into him as she is, but whatever, too late, he's here to stay.

It's nice to see the show working on a bigger story/arc, connected to Mike's past/memory blanks, and creating a nemesis for KITT. I'd like to see an increase in these kinds of episodes as opposed to the somewhat random badguy/terrorist threat-of-the-week standalones, because frankly they've been doing a pretty lousy job with standalones up to now.

this show has been getting better with each episode. I'd hate to see that stop.I agree, it has been steadily improving.

[dru-zod2501]

I'm not familiar with KARR or much of the original series. Did it go crazy in the old show?

[GuardianAngel]

^KARR was the prototype built for a trans Am but it had one big problem. It's main prupose was auto-preservation, at any cost. When the team who created it discovered this flaw, they deactivated it (Devon was present at the time). So Wilton Knight's team started to work on KITT, whose main purpose is to preserve life. KITT is selfless, KARR is self-centered.
During an episode in the first season some burglars got into Knigth Industries, reactivated KARR by mistake and run away with it. KITT and Michael saw KARR running away (KARR almost run Micheal over) and KITT was as surprised as Micheal to see a car identical to him. KARR was seamingly destroyed at the end of teh episode (went down a cliff after Micheal put KITT on a collision course with him), but reappeared two seasons later. At the end of that episode KITT and KARR both used the Turbo Boost but KARR was destroyed mid air, (he was already damaged) even though his CPU remained intact.

So the main difference between KITT and KARR was their character, the rest (car, interior, functions, etc.) was the same.

[superman412]

Ok. So last nights episode was probably the best of the series so far. I know that while KITT, Mike, and Sarah were not mainly present the whole time, the episode highlighted the supporting cast in a way that had yet to be done. The show is no longer a man, his car, the car's mechanic, and their boss. Its grown and has more characters that just werent getting enough face time. I liked that they made you think that It was carrie and then the stand down between Carrie and Torres was great.I loved the Halloween costumes and the best part were Katie and Lisa being the Pixar lamps. I liked that Mike got to have fun and act like a kid again, it was a nice change from the grouch hes been playing. His interaction with Sarah and KITT as well as the SCC was great and his pranks were top notch. I also liked KITT's costume which would've made more sense had this episode aired last week, oh well. I did notice a slight change in Zoe which i didnt like up until i found out that it was a Zoe imposter and was totally surprised. But the best part i have to say was that introduction of the Knight Automated Roving Robot. I like how he was addressed and that he wasnt another Mustang, but a morphing robot. The idea of him being out there was a very eerie presence and i look forward to seeing more people try and steal KITT to start up KARR. I also am interested in seeing how Mike knows KARR. I hope however that more of KITT's learning capability is explained and Mike's amnesia. All in all, great episode and amazing work guys. I give this episode a 4 Capt. Jack Harkness costumes out of 5.

[HalJordan4184]

I too was thinking about how this could work. I'm open to the new KARR interpretation.

I think the best way to explain this, is along Antithesis' line of thinking.

KARR's original Alpha circuits are found, and Graiman tries again to fix him. KARR plays along, and this is where his ability to self program comes in. While Graiman think's he may have worked KARR's bugs out, KARR is only playing along, while hiding his own personally rewritten code somewhere. The military comes along, and is looking for a new weapons system, and Graiman uses the "fixed" KARR program, in the newly designed weapon. KARR then takes his newly cemented top of line prototype status, and runs. He's now hell bent on revenge, and destroying not only the people (Knight Industries) but the government who tried to control him. This also lines up a return of the original KITT, who by this point, has probably also regained the ability to rewrite his own code, and is in fact, even in a 25 year old body, still the superior model. His MBS could even come into play, considering that, even though the nano tech is cool, and makes KITT durable, being practically indestructible, and able to resist any modern weapon, short of a nuke, gives you an edge in head to head combat. It could even be a fitting end to the original KITT, if they so decide he needs to die, by having him sacrifice himself to stop KARR, and ensure only his proper predecessor remains, protecting human life, and making the world better for people everywhere.

[KittKattBar]

From looking at the screencaps, it seems that KARR is a transformer. It can go from Mustang (KITT II's identical twin) to the attack robot. I know eyes will roll at the transformer thing, but I think it adds menace. KARR is KITT II's twin, but can do things that KITT II cannot. KITT II will be at a disadvantage if he has to face off against KARR.

I think KARR II is the original KARR's CPU somehow in a new body. He is out for revenge.

[PHOENIXZERO]

I was enjoying the episode, the bringing up KARR at first made my enjoyment of it even greater as did liking the fact that KITT finally had a "KNIGHT" license plate, I was even fine with KITT, in his continuing "gender" crisis, transformed into a black and pink Mustang convertible since I knew what the cause was.... Then the explanation came and I was left thinking "WTF?!" I was rather pissed off on how it was handled with no ties to the original series or even a mention of really anything and it felt like GST was rewriting history as well as changing what the acronym stood for. After I did quite a bit of *****ing, I skipped through and watched again and heard KITT bring up that there may be more info on KARR that he did no have. Which left me with a little hope that it involved not just Mike's involvement (check knightindustriesresearch.com for some videos under Torres and his profile in the employee database, the pass is devon:bonnie) but also would include KARR's proper origin. It still bugs me though that we couldn't even get a wire framed shot of a car that at least resembled the Trans-Am, but oh well.

I'm hoping that with the government obviously gaining some sort of control over Knight Industries that the military, in its infinite wisdom, came across KARR's old AI unit which was actually recovered by FLAG this time from the debris of KARR's destroyed body and locked away somewhere (without his memory banks though it would be nice for KARR to remember the past) and demand that it be used with this new prototype being designed and built since they don't want to wait for a brand new AI to be created. Charles, knowing the problems with KARR from the original series and what was said to happen that resulted in the creation of KITT, tries to reprogram the AI and remove the "self preservation" directive. Thinking he was successful in changing or fixing KARR, they go ahead and install the AI and for a short while things seem to be fine, the bring in Mike to be his "pilot" and a bond is formed between them or perhaps a falling out as KARR, having being around for so long managed to evolve beyond the need of someone else programming him, is able to undo and reprogram/"fix" himself as he's back to how he was before with a full memory of past events, might be hard without memory banks but I'd still like this, perhaps the AI unit itself contained a memory bank so he still remembers the basics of what happened before similarly it could be like wiping a hard drive in that just because you delete or even format something, fragments of data and even complete files will still remain.

He succeeds and wakes up, realizing what happened, eventually goes haywire and kills a bunch of people before Charles and whomever else is involved, manages to deactivate him again and destroy his memory banks this time, maybe someone saved his data and his AI Unit this time was destroyed or maybe again, the idiots left it intact and it was stolen before it could be destroyed. Mike is left and they wipe his mind of the events to try and cover up what happened.


Episodes 12 and 13 are going to be very, very important IMO.... Hopefully the ratings will rebound next week because there were not good compared to the previous episodes being down by about two million viewers..

[superpal1]

I have to say that this episode really up the ante for the series. I like how they brought back in the KARR element to the show. It adds a sense of foreboding and direction that I think this show was lacking. I feel this episode should have been done earlier(erase the Halloween references), and then maybe the viewership would not have waned. I have a good feeling that the revamping of the show will work well for it as well. Heres to hoping that the show is getting on the right track, because this is one of the few new shows of the season that I acutally enjoy watching.

[jym-el]

that wasn't KARR...

Dr. Graiman said it was the Knight Auto-cybernetic Roving Robot-Exoskeleton... doesn't the initials spell KARR-E?

i wonder how it is related to WALL-E?

[Cromartiefan]

well, the transforming aspect of KARR makes sense - KITT's transformations are the result of new programs being uploaded to him, so if KARR can self-program he can presumably design and initiate his own transformations.

I don't like how they're effectively divorcing the show from the old one though - one of the things I liked about the pilot was how they kept the links there, in the background, so that you didn't *have* to get them to understand what was going on, but it was a nice touch if you did.

[jym-el]

has anybody accessed the knightindustriesresearch website recently?

i found these two images under Torres' personal file.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/redwingredwing/KARR-E.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/redwingredwing/KARR-E2.jpg

does he have anything to do with KARR-E?

i guess there is ==> http://www.kittsite.com/kingspawn.htm