What do you think about the new costume for Clark?? [Archive]

lanalang1018

10-30-2008, 08:46 PM

Remember the phrase "not tights, no flights" ? Well the new exec producers have said that there will be NO "tights" on the show, so no, he won't be wearing the costume. And I don't think he should. I mean wouldn't that mean that we'd be stepping out of "Smallville boundaries" ? Smallville is about Clark's journey to becoming who he is destined to be. When he DOES become that person, Superman, the show will be over.

davidbrenton

10-30-2008, 08:47 PM

Ragius

10-30-2008, 08:47 PM

^^ That was before the writers changed *wink wink*

theotherJane

10-30-2008, 08:48 PM

Irony. It wouldn't be the first time SV's done this.

LightSeeker

10-30-2008, 08:50 PM

IMO it felt more like Tom saying that line than it did Clark.

Kal-El-073

10-30-2008, 08:51 PM

I think they put that in just as a joke.

susangail

10-30-2008, 08:55 PM

^^^ I do, too.

curiosity

10-30-2008, 08:56 PM

I got that impression when he said it. It may be a characterization of Tom that was depicted in the writing in addition to it being ironic for the character.

Personally, I think he should embrace the character he's playing and get on board. Look at Christian Bale. It certainly didn't ruin his career.

Actually the suit needs changed, so I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to wear it in this day and age. It's shows a way above average understanding of the need for change, way above whoever made the costume for Superman Returns.

Christian Bale wears a Batman suit that has been changed, as in no longer tights, and looks really cool. So it's not the same thing.

LightSeeker

10-30-2008, 08:58 PM

I guess it could be taken two ways:
1. Just as a joke b/c Clark will eventually wear it, or
2. Tom's way of saying, "Get off my back already. It's hard enough that you want me to wear the tights, but the cape too?"

I prefer to go with #1

curiosity

10-30-2008, 09:01 PM

OneShotClois

10-30-2008, 09:03 PM

He's not supposed to wear those tights on SV, so him wearing a cape is highly unlikely.

I took it more along the lines of giving us a hint that we may not see him wear it.

Blue Orange NY

10-30-2008, 09:04 PM

I think it was a great moment and I agree, I don't think he should don the S and cape in the show.....he is right not in this lifetime, it's Smallville.....his next lifetime would be when he's ready to rock n roll and truly don it.....so I thought the scene was tight BUT BUT I did think about Tom after the scene, thinking about how he does not want to move on and be typedcast for doing Superman, he's nuts'.....typecast my a$$ I think if you ask anyone and given the shot at it no one would think twice about accepting the opportunity to play an Iconic figure....maybe I'm going on a different direction with this and this isn't the thread for it but due to that secene I need to speak my piece on the subject.....Tom should re-consider about taking in the franchise, first he's already been endorsed by Mr. Christopher Reeve (bless the man), second the show seems to be doing great, DC/WB want to make a big splash, I think he should tackle the chance....If I was Tom's people I would suggest it and reiterate that he isn't playing John Doe and it's not just a regular movie, damn it! it's Superman.....as long as they get a excellent writer to screen out at least 3 movies, pay the man well, and combine it with a possible BM VS SM & JLA movies......Tom, go out there and get the job, **** I think they'll give it to him without thinking twice...

He told Oliver, "Not in this lifetime" when referring to wearing the cape. I think he needs to swallow his pride and wear that freakin' cape already!!

SnowBird

10-30-2008, 09:05 PM

I remember when teen Clark went to the museum and there was a breast plate with an S on it and he said I can't see myself wearing that into battle. I think both represent future Superman but it just isn't time for Clark to put the suit on yet.

Baron Karza

10-30-2008, 09:15 PM

Well, remember that once he puts on the cape it becomes a completely different show. Maybe at most we can expect a variation of the black and white Superman costume.

On the Welling tip, if he really doesn't want to wear the costume I don't blame him. As incredible of an actor as he is (given the one-dimensional role he's been given to work with), even I have a hard time seeing him in any other role after all this time. I'm sure when he first landed the part he would have donned a tiara and lasso. Now, though... I don't know. I suppose it depends on what his bills look like.

The Great Ymmij

10-30-2008, 09:16 PM

Why does everybody think the cape HAS to go with the tights. I actually wouldn't mind him ditching the red jacket for the red cape. He can still wear his blue t-shirt and jeans. I just think the red cape is epic!

SnowBird

10-30-2008, 09:23 PM

The cape goes with flying so I don't see Clark wearing it until he flies.

LuckyLois

10-30-2008, 09:27 PM

old guy

10-30-2008, 09:40 PM

They do these jokes all the time. Him being afraid of heights, even Lois said the fortune teller told her she was destined to fall for a guy who wears a red cape and tights! They are just poking fun at the eventuality that we may never see.

I agree. There have been other similar comments before. Way back in Season 1, when someone (can't remember if it was Lana or Chloe) asked him about what kind of job he may want in the future, his response was along the lines of 'as long as it doesn't involve wearing a suit and a lot of flying.' I view that line as the same as the cape - just poking fun at the eventuality.

wallyK

10-30-2008, 09:48 PM

It was just another fine irony, we've seen them before. I don't think TW has to worry about wearing the suit. When Clark dons the suit, he journey to becoming Superman will be complete. I don't think TW would object to wearing the suit in the last epsiode of the series, if that's what the writers decided.

SteveS

10-30-2008, 09:50 PM

Never say 'never.'

kal-05

10-30-2008, 10:00 PM

I picked it up as a sly way to tell the fans that Welling won't be donning the suit. In all fairness the show has gone on far too long for Clark to make ironic references like that.

LuckyKrypto

10-30-2008, 10:08 PM

I wouldn't read to much into it. :) Just enjoy the moment

pizzahead2490

10-30-2008, 10:21 PM

i kind of getting the feeling that tom was the one saying it and not clark.
what is tom problem? he would look hot in tights, or does he feel he dont have enough package to fully complete the suit?

HowardFilms

10-30-2008, 11:16 PM

I, however, am tired of people naysaying because it isn't the same story as Smallville. Has anyone else noticed that he's teaming up with the Justice League, has already faced half his rogue's gallery, works at the Daily Planet, and fights crime in primary colors?!

I hate to tell you, but he's already Superman in everything but name and costume.

smallvillerocks45

10-30-2008, 11:22 PM

I think they put that in just as a joke.

I agree. It was like the time Lois gave Clark an application for The Daily Planet and he said, "that'll never happen." Well, look where he is now: at the Daily Planet. It was a total nod to the mythos, IMO, and I had a big smile on my face when he said it.

...besides, the red cape has been alluded to before. Remember "Talisman," when Jonathan saves Clark and his parents wrap him up in the red blanket, and even last season in "Action," Clark was given a red cape. Then in "Odyssey," Dinah/Black Canary told him he should try wearing something a little more form fitting - it was a total hint to the future. I have a feeling that Smallville's version of Superman will wear the suit, just not on the show, thus the no tights, no flights rule. However, I wouldn't ever say that this quip was meant to hint at a change in Superman's costume. I mean look at how reluctant Clark was to let Jimmy print that picture, but once he saw the reaction to it, his opinion changed. I think something similar will happen with his opinion of the cape. Even Oliver thought it was kind of cool, and once Clark does learn to fly, I'm sure he'll understand Oliver's comment about aerodynamics.

Who

10-30-2008, 11:25 PM

TW had no problem dressing up as Green Arrow. And now we have JH dressing up as Supes.
So we have Clark dressing up as Green Arrow and Ollie as Superman. They are a couple of cross dressers if you ask me.
Did anyone notice the red curtains that Clark left through out of Ollie's jet? Very red cape looking.

kal-el_Girl

10-30-2008, 11:27 PM

yes but as he said no cape, he went through some RED curtain which looked very much like a cape so I'm a bit confused LOL but I agree if tom doesn't wanna do it, we should let him be, it's his bad career move not ours.

borednow

10-30-2008, 11:28 PM

It's called irony... it's over used on Smallville but yeah it's just another ironic Anvil.

Bre723

10-30-2008, 11:34 PM

well yeah they said "no flights, no tights"
hello?
did anyone see "crusade"???
it's a bird it's a plane, your word is shot to h$**.

Cowl-El

10-30-2008, 11:37 PM

Well, if the new producers have stated "no tights" this portion of Smallville, I got to thinking...

How badass would it be once Clark learns how to fly, if he DOES wear the cape. But no tights. I mean Superboy in the comics right before he died pulled it off. T-shirt with S Logo on it and bluejeans.

So Clark can wear a blue t-shirt with the S Logo on it and bluejeans with the cape. Because I'm sorry but I don't care how you look at it, the shot they showed of Oliver standing on the building rooftop in the blue suit and the red cape as it billowed out looking very "HOLY CRAP THAT'S JUST FREAKIN' AWESOME!" just works for me. It works a lot for me.

smallvillerocks45

10-30-2008, 11:37 PM

It's true. The no flights, no tights rule has been "bent" around a bit to say the least, and who knows... now with the PS3 in control, there may be more rule bending to come. I can't wait to find out!

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

Well, if the new producers have stated "no tights" this portion of Smallville, I got to thinking...

How badass would it be once Clark learns how to fly, if he DOES wear the cape. But no tights. I mean Superboy in the comics right before he died pulled it off. T-shirt with S Logo on it and bluejeans.

So Clark can wear a blue t-shirt with the S Logo on it and bluejeans with the cape. Because I'm sorry but I don't care how you look at it, the shot they showed of Oliver standing on the building rooftop in the blue suit and the red cape as it billowed out looking very "HOLY CRAP THAT'S JUST FREAKIN' AWESOME!" just works for me. It works a lot for me.

Yeah... It worked for me too. I was so excited when I saw it, LoL and it wasn't even Clark! :eek:

curiosity

10-30-2008, 11:58 PM

i kind of getting the feeling that tom was the one saying it and not clark.
what is tom problem? he would look hot in tights, or does he feel he dont have enough package to fully complete the suit?

Maybe, he's smart enough to know that in modern times the suit will kill the show. As in that last 2 films in the 80's flopped, the show in the 90's was cancelled after only 4 seasons, and the new movie was rebooted. All of which included the tights.

It seems to me, he's smart enough to know the suit will cause the show to bomb. He seems to be the one with the secret to Superman success, not the fans, not all the other movies or shows in the past 3 decades. Maybe he's on to something. ;)

smallvillerocks45

10-31-2008, 12:04 AM

Not having the tights on the show has done wonders, for sure. An eight season series (and maybe/hopefully nine) is quite rare. I think the best thing Almiles did for the show was create the no tights, no flight rule. I know the suit is cannon, but right now, IMO, we don't need to see it. That suit is only a disguise, a costume, but the real hero lies underneath it all, and that is what we're seeing. Clark Kent is becoming more and more super every day, I love it!

Lilah

10-31-2008, 12:15 AM

Personally, after all this time I DO want to see him in disguise. But only as the series finale. I'd love to see him fly out of the fortress just like Christopher Reeves did in the movies... and then that could be the series end. It would be bittersweet, and like most of you say the end of Smallville. That could happen this season or if they want to milk another season then next season. But I do want to see the entire package eventually.

amberdawn

10-31-2008, 01:07 AM

So we have Clark dressing up as Green Arrow and Ollie as Superman. They are a couple of cross dressers if you ask me.

:lol:

Nuberman

10-31-2008, 01:43 PM

Sorry. Welling has to be in costume at the end. If they want to redo the costume a little, that's fine. But it can't be a cape and blue jeans and a T-shirt. It has to be a REAL costume that is similar to his iconic one. We have to know he became Superman. I don't care if it's for the last 2 minutes of the series. To me, the last 8 years would be a complete tease if we never see him become the man he is destined to become. The show is about him becoming Supes. That's how it must end. But I agree it shouldn't happen until the very end of the series.

It'd be like in Lord of the Rings having Frodo walk up to Mount Doom and then they run the credits with us assuming he chucked the ring in.

REebee52

10-31-2008, 07:35 PM

Should I take that seriously? I was very displeased...

minerva73

10-31-2008, 07:36 PM

I wouldn't take it so seriously since Clark chuckled when he said that. But then again, there'd need to be something EPIC to make Clark want to put on a cape...

Kevin24

10-31-2008, 07:37 PM

I just think it was a joke.

wildcherry

10-31-2008, 07:37 PM

i think it'd be wierd to see him in tights and a cape, i like the farm boy look:rolleyes:

JW_102792

10-31-2008, 07:45 PM

I think it's something the show definitely needs as the ending, I agree having him flying out of the fortress with it on then towards the camera then cut to credits (very much like the first time we see Bizarro, at the waterfalls) would be great, and could be CGI'd and wouldn't even need TW to wear the tights.

I think the only reason he doesn't want to is because he doesn't want to be seen as Superman, which is what he's already seen as. He probably thinks that if he wears the tights, that's all people will know him for, no matter what else he does.

To be completely honest, I think Christian Bale now, I think Batman. I think Heath Ledger, I think Joker. Because they did such a great job (IMO) on those characters, that's all I can see them as, despite all their other films. TW probably doesn't want that to happen, even though it's such a great character to be known as.

jwm

10-31-2008, 08:08 PM

Seems like they throw the "not in this lifetime" phrase around as a wink to other incarnations of the Mythology so I wouldn't count on Clark sporting one on SV. But he did tell Chloe he liked the Zorro cape in Thirst so who knows.

SnowBird

10-31-2008, 08:11 PM

When Lana had the vampire disease in S5, Clark and Chloe went to a costume party and he dressed up like Zorro. Clark said he liked the cape but didn't like the mask because it moved around on his face...Don't worry when Clark becomes Superman, he will like the cape.

amberdawn

10-31-2008, 08:32 PM

Okay look, that line came from the writers. I doubt they'd let Tom influence it in any way. And I really think it was another ironic (and made to be so) comment because Clark WILL wear a cape someday.

Tom may or may not still feel that way. Who knows. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. I imagine he wouldn't be too opposed to the suit if it's the last 5 minutes of the last episode.

zorasuperman

10-31-2008, 08:45 PM

i think he might end up wearing hte cape and full on tights and costume, however towards the end of the show/season. because once clark kent becomes superman, smallville is sadly over. but i do hope they continue it for some supermans episodes.

krypt0man

11-01-2008, 05:32 PM

Maybe it means he has to "die" first to get to his "next lifetime". Now how could that happen... oh hey - What a coinincidence - Doomsday is part of the cast this season!

kaam

11-01-2008, 07:23 PM

^ He has died enough times, i thought he would be in the "next lifetime" already. LoL

Jokes aside. I loved Ollie telling him that the cape helped with the aerodynamics!!! :eek:

petitemimi

11-01-2008, 08:14 PM

Do people confuse TW and Clark in here? CLARK said: "Not in this life time". Tom doesn't decide what his character says. Anyway, that freakin' costume badly needs an update, and every other superhero's costume got an update so it's time for the Superman costume to leap into the 21st century already.

Sweetie

11-01-2008, 08:18 PM

Irony of course.

lovinredkclark

11-01-2008, 08:23 PM

as much as i'm a huge TW fan (as the rest of us here) i don't want to see him in tights and a cape.
we know he becomes superman but this is 'smallville' the show about clark before he becomes superman hense no tights and cape.
IMO

amberdawn

11-01-2008, 08:26 PM

Well I think we're pretty much in Superman territory now lol ^^

lovinredkclark

11-01-2008, 08:31 PM

^^i surpose so, but i think until he really flys then no way.

amberdawn

11-01-2008, 08:37 PM

I wish he'd just fly already. It's way way way past time for him to be flying.

Serynarpc

11-01-2008, 09:12 PM

This reminds me of the scene where Clark left the red ape hanging on the fence and walked away from it. He isn't ready to don the Superman persona yet - for which we should be grateful. The only episode we may see him don the costume is in the last finale of the show, signaling the end of Smallville.

Superboy2

11-01-2008, 09:15 PM

Even though TW has said he doesn't wanna wear the tights and cape, its not up to him.

"Lois I Never Lie"

11-02-2008, 04:24 AM

I think it was just Tom getting his tuppance worth in, he seems to be so against the whole tights and cape thing and he took his chance to let everyone know that, did you pick up on the whole drama of the thing!!!

jon-el87

11-02-2008, 05:47 AM

Jokes like this has appeared since season one. In Hug, Clark pointed out (on the question on what he wants to do with his life, since he didn't wanna live the rest of his life on a farm), that whatever it is, he hopes it's not some job, where he'd have to wear a suit and fly a lot. He's pointed out several times, that he hates costumes. These lines are not to be taken too seriuosly, they're rather just injokes to Superman and Clark's future. It's the classical, some kid says there's is something he (or she) doesn't wanna become and then they end up doing it. With Lex, in the early season, made it clear that he doens't wanna become his father and then he goes and become even worse. Lois pointed out a few times, that she doesn't wanna become a reporter and then she became one in season six.

Super EJ

11-02-2008, 11:07 PM

Did anyone really like the new costume or do you think it needed more style? To me I loved it, except I don't I liked the whole part that everyoe has a hoodie on each super hero costume. For Superman he's gonna have to not have a hoodie. I wonder who really is gonna give Clark his new superman costume, cuz I know that orginaly its Clark's Mom (Martha kent), but since this is a whole different type of superman story may be the writers will make Ollie to give Clark his real costume for the end of the series.

xrayvision

11-02-2008, 11:47 PM

Do we know that this will be Clark's new costume? For all we know it could be a 1 time thing. I'm not keen on the hood of the costume. I think it would look cooler with a visor instead of a hood. But I do think it would be a step up. I think it would be weird if Clark didn't start saving people with that costume on now that people think the Good Samaritan wear it.

Imzadia

11-03-2008, 12:27 AM

Right! IMO, that 'costume' was just a thrown-together, make-shift Outfit that resembles what most people think a 'superhero' would wear. It was simply Ollie acting as a 'decoy' to misdirect Jimmy's assumptions about Clark being the "Good-Samaritan SuperBlur" hero.

lovinredkclark

11-05-2008, 10:58 AM

Animation

11-05-2008, 11:20 AM

I kinda like the idea of just a blue body suit and the red cape, with a matching red mask, at least for a proto costume. For the REAL costume, just go with the classic.

Of course my favorite costume for Superman ever in any medium was the Black and White one he wore in the Justice League one where he was the alternate Superman in the Justice Lords.

Lewis

Stu.Kent

11-21-2008, 06:50 PM

i think the perfect smallville superman suit would be more like the one wore by superman x in the legion of super heroes animated series. its much more fitting with the other outfits we've seen worn by the justice league, however it does not include a cape which has been much hinted towards through out smallville.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b17/pspguy/SupermanX03.jpg