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Shadow116
10-09-2008, 07:56 PM
Clark giving Chloe away?! You have to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!

thebog1
10-09-2008, 07:56 PM
Wondered that too...

Liquid-Prince
10-09-2008, 08:00 PM
Didn't Chloe's dad die, or move somewhere or something?

Shadow116
10-09-2008, 08:02 PM
No they just wrote him out, he survived the bomb in the S3 finale. Lex's guys got Chloe and her dad out.

babyluthor
10-09-2008, 08:04 PM
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. I think he should be there. He just kinda disappeared.

redeem147
10-09-2008, 08:05 PM
That seemed weird. I wondered about that too.

He's like the people in soap operas who go upstairs one day and never come down.

WookieeBoy
10-09-2008, 08:11 PM
Clark giving Chloe away?! You have to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!

That's what I'm screamin'! I guess they couldn't get the actor to come back and they are going to want to do a big wedding episode, so they didn't want to have to explain away the dad. They could've gotten some other actor to step in. What's the big deal? Ugh! Anyway, they could've at least written in a better explanation why Chle wants Clark to do it other than, "oh, we're the bestest friends!" And I was going to give the episode props for continuity with the love letter. Oh well!

Poyntz
10-09-2008, 08:17 PM
Sigh.. WE WANT GABE!!!

Darth Pipes
10-09-2008, 08:23 PM
It's really weird how they write off people on this show.

Meteror Freak
10-09-2008, 09:40 PM
He's wheeling his wife around smallville in hopes to revive her.

"Wake up, Moira!"

Aries83
10-09-2008, 09:42 PM
They could've gotten some other actor to step in. What's the big deal

If I remember right, her dad was re-cast around Season 2...so I'm not sure if another actor could play him seeing as how he replaced someone else...I miss Gabe :(

Jory
10-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Why isn't Gabe walking Chloe down the aisle? Are PS3 going to make it so that Gbae is dead? They're rewriting the show, so it's possible they'll write it so that Gabe's dead. Why else wouldn't a father walk his daughter down the aisle?

Liquid-Prince
10-09-2008, 09:43 PM
There are a couple other threads on this, but I don't really have an answer because I can't recall when I saw him last.

AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 09:44 PM
Maybe her dad doesnt support her decision?
I dont think he's dead...I kind of expected Chloe to mention why she wanted Clark to give her away. :\

Storm45
10-09-2008, 10:02 PM
He's still hiding from Lionel after the explosion of their safehouse at the end of season 3. It just happened that people forgot to tell him that Lionel went to prison and is now dead.

AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 10:04 PM
Aww..poor Gabe. Someone should go to Smallville high and let him know his daughter is 21...and not here anymore. :lol:

LovelyLoisLane
10-09-2008, 10:04 PM
Yeah I was waiting for Chloe to ask Clark to be her maid of honor, for a bit of humor and niceness and then . . . she asked him to give her away.

What happened to her Dad? Did he die offscreen?

That was odd.

It was really my only 'WTF' moment of this episode.

I voted that he was still at Smallville High waiting to pick Chloe up after school, lol that was funny, because I think that is where the show forgot him.

kiariclois
10-09-2008, 10:04 PM
Oh gosh, is Chloe's dad died? Geez... So now, Clark's her dad? :rotfl:

RedKRules
10-09-2008, 10:06 PM
wherever you are Gabe, don´t waste your time with Chloe´s marriage, hang on ... Chloaic marriage.. I mean unless you want to have a heart or be knocked out .... if I were you ... do just what you´ve been doing ..... GET LOST!

LovelyLoisLane
10-09-2008, 10:08 PM
That's what I'm screamin'! I guess they couldn't get the actor to come back and they are going to want to do a big wedding episode, so they didn't want to have to explain away the dad.

Or just not show that part of the wedding. Just start the music show Chloe's face without panning out next to her, and then show the reactions of the faces of her friends, then Jimmy watching her walk towards him then focus on her as she is standing at the altar with Jimmy.

BadToad
10-09-2008, 10:08 PM
Maybe he's hanging out with Martha Kent and Gen Sam Lane in the disappearing parents lounge.

Not cool SV.

kiariclois
10-09-2008, 10:09 PM
:rotfl: BadToad.

LovelyLoisLane
10-09-2008, 10:13 PM
Well Lois' pops is in the military and is busy with that, Martha is in the senate and busy with that . . . but what is Gabe's excuse,or rather the excuse of the show?

dimeo782002
10-09-2008, 10:14 PM
it'smore bs of ps3 shoving clark loves chloe like family in our faces . and gabe was eaten by the same person that put the fever letter in chloe's apartment after lana took it out of the trash in episode fever. where is gabe and how did chloe get the letter back ? lol ! bravo ps3 ...i have to go dump somewhere ! :mad:

LovelyLoisLane
10-09-2008, 10:16 PM
I think Clark serving the role as father though is a little over the top.

It just didn't work for me. I was totally expecting her to ask Clark to be her 'man of honor' of to be Jimmy's best man, but not to walk her down the aisle. That is a fatherly role, to me at least and a lot of people I think too.

It was sweet, but odd.

AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 10:17 PM
it'smore bs of ps3 shoving clark loves chloe like family in our faces . and gabe was eaten by the same person that put the fever letter in chloe's apartment after lana took it out of the trash in episode fever. where is gabe and how did chloe get the letter back ? lol ! bravo ps3 ...i have to go dump somewhere ! :mad:

Yep...they cant make it more clear chlark will always be platonic.....
Clarks her father now...:rotfl:

kiariclois
10-09-2008, 11:29 PM
:rotfl: Oh Andi...

superspider02
10-09-2008, 11:30 PM
Well they never said he was dead, we just havent seen him since season 4 premiere when we saw that he and chloe got out of the blast. They then wrote the character off and the actor's contract probably ran up and he never decided to resign and went off to other work. I know i seen him since he left smallville in a few episodes of BSG. They probably are doing the clark thing cause they were likely not able to get him to return for the wedding episode.

dimeo782002
10-09-2008, 11:53 PM
Yep...they cant make it more clear chlark will always be platonic.....
Clarks her father now...:rotfl:


eww incest lol ! just kidding yeah your right andi very platonic lmao !

amberdawn
10-10-2008, 12:00 AM
Maybe he's hanging out with Martha Kent and Gen Sam Lane in the disappearing parents lounge.


It's gotta be this.

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Yep...they cant make it more clear chlark will always be platonic.....
Clarks her father now...:rotfl:

:rotfl:

Iluvgreen
10-10-2008, 12:07 AM
I"VE BEEN WONDERING FOR A WHOLE FRICKIN YEAR. though i still think its cute that clark is gonna give her away. its cute, but i miss gabe.

LoisL
10-10-2008, 12:14 AM
I was soooooooooooooooooooooo annoyed/angry at Chloe/the writers when she asked Clark to be the one to give her away! Cheap ploy to keep Gabe relegated RIP in Offscreenville. Sooo wrong. :( At least Aunt Nell's story had ended on the show w/some explanation in s2 yet she showed up to Lana's wedding but here we have Gabe who vanished w/o any story ramifications in s4, never mentioned, who won't be at his own daughter's wedding....

it's just silly.

superspider02
10-10-2008, 12:14 AM
Yea i still say they probably could not get gabe's actor to come back for when they were planning to shoot the wedding episode, didnt want to go through the process of recasting for one episode and this was an easy way out. I do hate that gabe getting written off the show has been pretty bad, they hardly mentioned him since season 4 and they could have easily had chloe interacting with him over the phone/computer over the past few seasons and say he moved to a more quiet place to get away from all the luthor troubles.

ginnyfan
10-10-2008, 01:19 AM
I'm starting to think that maybe Gabe is dead. :(

Supes4Ever
10-10-2008, 01:38 AM
Gabe is in protective custody (remember the whole "moving into a new house, Chloe taking the name 'Nellie Blye" in the beginning of Season 4? That was protective custody, or them beginning a new life). They established this already. When they were rescued by Lex's men from the safehouse because of Lionel's actions, it was STATED that Chloe and Gabe were put in the protection of the government under General Sam Lane's orders (Lex asked him), and through Lex faking their deaths.

Chloe LEFT protective custody; after Lionel's hitman tired to kill her after finding her, and then decided to come back to testify in the trial, which is a big "no-no" under protective custody rules. Gabe stayed however. This means that in reality, Gabe has NO idea what his daughter is doing. Once you go into protective custody that is it; your name is changed, your social security number is changed, you get a new birth certificate, the whole nine-yards. Gabe Sullivan no longer exists, but Chloe Sullivan does because she left protective custody improperly after the attempted "hit" on her, and therefore would not be brought back by the government. She is a security risk to them after that point.

This means that, yes, sadly Gabe will miss his daughter's wedding. In fact, he may NEVER know she IS married, or anything else that happens in her future. That is the way it seems PS3 are writing this, unless something changes in the future.

ginnyfan
10-10-2008, 02:30 AM
^That is so sad! :(

Now I kind of wish Chloe had stabbed Lionel with her fork in the "Rage" Thanksgiving Dinner scene.

maryjanewatson
10-10-2008, 04:30 AM
Does anybody else remember in the 7th season, the "a world without clark kent" universe, chloe was getting married to some guy, and they were going to meet her dad for lunch or something. they remembered him then!

It is ridiculous that they would forget about Gabe. forget protective custody, if that was the case. Lionel was the threat, and now that the threat is gone, he should be allowed out of protective custody. I'm sure had this been a real life thing, he would have contacted his only daughter in some way or another in the last 4 years.

absolutely ridiculous.

AliciaBaker
10-10-2008, 05:44 AM
Chloe is clearly ashamed to marry Jimmy Iaaaiiikkkss Olsen. So, Gabe is never going to find out...

migo
10-10-2008, 06:54 AM
I thought it was Sam Lane who hid Chloe, not Lex's guys.

RedKRules
10-10-2008, 10:56 AM
Chloe is clearly ashamed to marry Jimmy Iaaaiiikkkss Olsen. So, Gabe is never going to find out...

So true!

nickyjean_1
10-10-2008, 11:28 AM
Maybe he hates jimmy more then lois does

Jory
10-10-2008, 11:33 AM
Chloe's not an important enough character to PS3 to have Gabe come back. TPTB couldn't even bother to recast an actor for the role, but were able to bring the actress who played Aunt Nell back for Lana. That says something right there.

BadToad
10-10-2008, 12:08 PM
Chloe's not an important enough character toPS3 to have Gabe come back. TPTB couldn't even bother to recast tan actor for the role, but were able to bring the actress who played Aunt Nell back for Lana. That says something right there.

This isn't just a Chloe issue. Look at everything thats happened to Clark, and where is his mother? Does she even keep in touch? And Lois' father never seems to bother to check and see how she's doing.

It would've been nice for them to make the extra effort to get the actor that played Gabe back, or recast, but this is not a problem unique to Chloe. This is a SV issue in general. The only exception seems to be Lana, which doesn't surprise me.

warriorrenegade
10-10-2008, 12:12 PM
Who cares? It's not like the guy was an intrical part of the story. A few lines here and there. Could really care less if the guy showed up or not. They needed a reason for Clark to be a part of the wedding. And giving Chloe away is that reason. Besides why hire an actor and pay him if you don't need to and the guy is probably hired on somewhere else.

susangail
10-10-2008, 12:20 PM
Understood, but Clark's mother? Jeez. Put her on the phone once in a while. The last time they did that, Lionel was talking with her on screen.

RedKRules
10-10-2008, 12:20 PM
[QUOTE=BadToad;4057654]This isn't just a Chloe issue. Look at everything

Bizarrolover
10-10-2008, 02:35 PM
Gabe is hanging out with Henry Small, who wasn't invited to his own dauther's wedding either. They're in forming the Smallville's Forgotten Character's league.

Now, seriously, I really don't care that much about Gabe. Chloe hasn't mentioned him since season 4 (maybe once, I can't remember), but I'm really disappointed that Martha was erased from the series as if she had never existed. I was moved to tears when Clark told her she was his heart and soul, in 'Solitude' but now he doesn't even call her or take a 10 second run to Washington to pay her a visit. I'm not asking them to bring Annette back, but hey, a phone call wouldn't hurt anyone or take the out of their limited budget.

Aries83
10-10-2008, 03:52 PM
Gabe is in protective custody (remember the whole "moving into a new house, Chloe taking the name 'Nellie Blye" in the beginning of Season 4? That was protective custody, or them beginning a new life). They established this already. When they were rescued by Lex's men from the safehouse because of Lionel's actions, it was STATED that Chloe and Gabe were put in the protection of the government under General Sam Lane's orders (Lex asked him), and through Lex faking their deaths.

This means that, yes, sadly Gabe will miss his daughter's wedding. In fact, he may NEVER know she IS married, or anything else that happens in her future. That is the way it seems PS3 are writing this, unless something changes in the future.

Thanks for refreshing my memory. It's all coming back to me now, but it still doesn't make sense. If they went into witness protection, wouldn't Gabe still be able to know the whereabouts of his daughter since he is her father after all?

If Sam Lane was involved, wouldn't he [and consequently Lois] know where Gabe really is and if he does, why wouldn't Lois inform her dad where Chloe is so he can at least know that she's back in Smallville?

quinny06
10-10-2008, 04:18 PM
I think you'll find that Lex and Sam Lane placed Chloe and Gabe under protective custody until Lionel's trial. Once Chloe testified they returned to their normal life.

I also seem to remember Lois mentioning Gabe either last year or season 6. Something about Chloe going to see him, or having lunch with him. I think so, anyway.

And they never replaced the actor, it was the same guy Seasons 1-4.

HeartChakraBabe
10-10-2008, 04:18 PM
Gabe is in protective custody (remember the whole "moving into a new house, Chloe taking the name 'Nellie Blye" in the beginning of Season 4? That was protective custody, or them beginning a new life). They established this already. When they were rescued by Lex's men from the safehouse because of Lionel's actions, it was STATED that Chloe and Gabe were put in the protection of the government under General Sam Lane's orders (Lex asked him), and through Lex faking their deaths.

Chloe LEFT protective custody; after Lionel's hitman tired to kill her after finding her, and then decided to come back to testify in the trial, which is a big "no-no" under protective custody rules. Gabe stayed however. This means that in reality, Gabe has NO idea what his daughter is doing. Once you go into protective custody that is it; your name is changed, your social security number is changed, you get a new birth certificate, the whole nine-yards. Gabe Sullivan no longer exists, but Chloe Sullivan does because she left protective custody improperly after the attempted "hit" on her, and therefore would not be brought back by the government. She is a security risk to them after that point.

This means that, yes, sadly Gabe will miss his daughter's wedding. In fact, he may NEVER know she IS married, or anything else that happens in her future. That is the way it seems PS3 are writing this, unless something changes in the future.


That mostly makes sense. Except, why, since Lionel bought the farm, hasn't Gabe been released from protective custody? You'd think that, by now, somebody would have informed him that Lionel is history. :confused:

dunkman
10-10-2008, 06:49 PM
You'd think it wouldn't be too much to explain why Chloe's dad isn't giving her away. Maybe he died during one of the summers & no one wants to talk about it because it's sad. Or maybe Brainiac being in Chloe's head made her forget she has a dad, & it just didn't occur to Clark...

Darth Pipes
10-10-2008, 09:07 PM
It's like when Lois came to Smallville originally and wanted to find Chloe's killer. She didn't say anything about her uncle (presumed killed in the blast) either.

Looks like the actor who played Gabe Sullivan has a history with characters like this. On BSG, he played Wallace Gray in the first season episode Colonial Day. Despite never hearing about the character beforehand, we learn he's this uber-important advisor to President Roslin, the "power behind the throne" if you will. He's the original choice for her VP but she later asks him to drop out for political concerns. We never see or hear anything more about this "important" advisor after this.

the Dagman
10-11-2008, 11:22 AM
The actor who played Gabe Sullivan is now teaching full-time right there in Vancouver.
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/44/l_c670d1ff3c064b89ba3d3bbe2fc6db9f.jpg
His name is Robert Wisden.

smallvillefreak24
10-11-2008, 02:25 PM
it wouldve been really cute to have clark walk her down if it wasn't for the huge GABE SULLIVAN hanging in the room

President_Luthor
10-11-2008, 08:51 PM
Gabe will read the wedding announcement in the Classifieds section of the Daily Planet, or in the Gotham Post, since he's quite likely working in Gotham with Lucas Luthor, Henry Small and Professor Willowbrook in constructing the Batcave under Wayne Manor.

"Alfred: It appears, Mr. Sullivan, that your daughter is betrothed to one Master James Olsen.

Gabe: My baby girl ... escaped from the explosion?"

Oh well, we can't feel to bad for him. Clark got his 'Dear John' letter from Lana ... by videotape, no less. :lol:

FlashInSV
10-12-2008, 12:51 PM
Maybe Chloe and her dad had a big, massive fight in Off-screen-ville... hahaha

Seriously, though, have they completely forgotten Chloe still has a dad? Her mum's gone, her dad's still here! Does that mean there won't be a man playing Gabe at the wedding?
I was half-expecting Clark to go "Um, Chlo... you do have a dad, remember?"

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it wouldve been really cute to have clark walk her down if it wasn't for the huge GABE SULLIVAN hanging in the room

I totally agree. It'd be ABSOLUTELY CUTE and ABSOLUTELY WRONG, because she just shoved her dad out the window!:lol:

haydenclaireheroes
10-12-2008, 02:51 PM
i know clark really soes not look like gabe sulivan!

ginnyfan
10-12-2008, 05:10 PM
Gabe will read the wedding announcement in the Classifieds section of the Daily Planet, or in the Gotham Post, since he's quite likely working in Gotham with Lucas Luthor, Henry Small and Professor Willowbrook in constructing the Batcave under Wayne Manor.

"Alfred: It appears, Mr. Sullivan, that your daughter is betrothed to one Master James Olsen.

Gabe: My baby girl ... escaped from the explosion?"

Oh well, we can't feel to bad for him. Clark got his 'Dear John' letter from Lana ... by videotape, no less. :lol:

:rotfl:

Minela
10-12-2008, 07:00 PM
What the hell was Chloe thinking? What a slap in the face to the man who raised you all your life. I mean, I understand Clark is her BFF and all, but I really expected her to ask him to be her Man Of Honor or something like that, or Jimmy's Best Man even. But to give her away? What's Gabe gonna do? Sit somewhere in the first or second row watching the whole thing, or is he just not even gonna be there?

alienkinfolk
10-12-2008, 08:09 PM
it would be great if they bring Gabe back for an ep, married with a new family. That would at least explain his disapperance

Darth Pipes
10-12-2008, 10:43 PM
This isn't just a Chloe issue. Look at everything thats happened to Clark, and where is his mother? Does she even keep in touch? And Lois' father never seems to bother to check and see how she's doing.

It would've been nice for them to make the extra effort to get the actor that played Gabe back, or recast, but this is not a problem unique to Chloe. This is a SV issue in general. The only exception seems to be Lana, which doesn't surprise me.

Good point about Martha. Just because she works in Washington doesn't mean she has to spend her life there. Senator's return home to the states they represent all the time. There's no reason why she isn't a semi-regular presence there.

Hopefulsuicide
10-13-2008, 12:10 PM
it's totally ridiculous that they couldnt get gabe... i'd be curious to see if they even bothered to ask the actor... i mean he couldnt be that far out of budget surely, and i doubt he would have said no to a one episode cameo

lovinredkclark
10-13-2008, 06:58 PM
ok so is gabe is protective custody with a new name and doesn't know anything about cloes life or his he is dead wouldn't make sense that uncle sam would be the most logical choise to give chloe away. i mean HE IS FAMILY.
i dont agree with clark giving her away. its just not right.
it seems that the writers just want clark in every scene which i'm quite happy about, but only if it really make sense and this clearly doesn't.

Deana
10-13-2008, 11:10 PM
Gabe will be standing with Lois outside the ceremony with picket signs urging Chloe to Dump the Chump!

stenochick
10-15-2008, 10:30 AM
Gabe will be standing with Lois outside the ceremony with picket signs urging Chloe to Dump the Chump!

:rotfl:

On another thread, I posted that they could have just had Chloe say to Clark: "Clark, since my dad is in a full-body cast because of his motorcycle accident, he and I were wondering if you would walk me down the aisle?"

Welling_is_pretty
10-15-2008, 02:18 PM
I'm right with you guys on the Gabe issue. I remembered that he was taken into protective custody but didn't he get a mention a few seasons later (Chloe said something about him, I believe) being out of it, finding work somwhere or something.

Mostly it's just that she didn't even think of him, that's what makes me mad. I mean, she's Super-Chloe! Surely there would be a way around it. She never even seemed to have thought of him. "Well, Clark since my Dad probably can't give me away at my wedding, I'd like you to do it." One simple sentence and people would have been happy. That is what bugs me about this show.

Welling_is_pretty
10-15-2008, 04:03 PM
Sent you a PM with a reply on the avi topic, Patricia.

Darth Pipes
10-17-2008, 10:40 PM
You know, if Gabe is dead maybe Chloe can clone him like Lana did with herself and Lex did with Julian.

President_Luthor
10-19-2008, 06:35 PM
*crickets chirping during a lazy Smallville dusk in the fall*

Gabe: Hmm, my daughter should have been done with the Torch by now. *silence* The Crows' basketball team already finished practice. *silence* How long does it take for Chloe, Pete and Clark to layout the paper?

Henry Small: Lana said she was done delivering the Talon's financial statements. I figured she went back to Smallville High to meet friends. *silence* Maybe she asked that nice son of Jonathan Kent to take her home? *reads Smallville Ledger, spotting Engagement Announcement* Hey, Gabe -- your daughter's engaged!

Gabe: ... to Eric Summers???

ginnyfan
10-19-2008, 07:11 PM
^ :rotfl:

e-µ-i
01-21-2009, 09:33 AM
You know, if Gabe is dead maybe Chloe can clone him like Lana did with herself and Lex did with Julian.

That's disturbing. A lot.

But yeah, major plot hole - where's dad ?!